Posted on Saturday, 3rd November 2012 by Harry Hotspur
Good evening.
The White Rabbit put on his spectacles. ‘Where shall I begin, please your Majesty?’ he asked.
‘Begin at the beginning,’ the King said gravely, ‘and go on till you come to the end: then stop.’
As discussed at length and almost dare I suggest predicted on this week’s show we are suffering all over the shop. That’s as plain as the nose on your face. But what’s the right response? Is AVB a clown? Are Levy & Co. a shower of bean counting shysters? Do our players need keel hauling and flogging?!
The Blame Game is a doll, eh?. It’s the most inclusive game in the world. Literally anyone can play. You don’t need any ability to reason or analyse. Just a strong desire to pin your metaphoric tail on the metaphoric donkey of your choice.
Before we get going on the ‘attitude’ of the crowd at White Hart Lane, let me not be accused trying to peddle opinion as fact in this respect. How we laughed at Arsenal. The Emptycrates. How we sniggered at ‘Arsenalisation’ and what it meant. They moved from a library into a purpose built monument to ambition and it turned out to have all the soul of an NCP car park.
This week however Arsenal fans have given us an exhibition in how to support. Losing 4-0 to the mighty Reading during the week and they were unrelenting in their support. Song after song. Earlier today they were losing away 0-2 to Manchester United. They sang, ‘We love you Arsenal, we do’ with a passion, a pride and a determination that was nothing shy of historic.
These are supporters who are seriously feeling that most horrible of pangs. Watching a former player be pivotal in their 90 minutes of demise. But they refused to give up. Old Trafford didn’t even really try drown them out because the home tribe acknowledged the away tribe’s strength and their honour.
White Hart Lane to me has for some time become over infested by people who behave as if they are going to the cinema. They take their seats and wait for the performance to please them. People who aren’t part of a tribe anymore. These weaklings have let the burden of expectation turn them into members of an audience, not supporters.
Never in the history of the world has there been such a time for a football fan to voice their opinion. Never. iPhones, android, apps, iOS Face Time, Facebook, Tweet, Skype me baby, call us now – we’re live and want to take your call, blog, use a net book, home office mate, log in to the forum now!
Who needs information.This high off the ground
Just give me confirmation We could win a million pounds
Who needs information When you’re living in constant fear
The first line of defence tends to be the line, ‘I’m entitled to my opinion.’ Of course you are, dear. But given the myriad options available… does enforcing the silent treatment, huffing or booing strike you as being amongst the most constructive options? Is that support?
The second line of defence tends to be the line, ‘Well at least I go!’ This dear reader is the suicide note of suicide notes. Who could possibly regard that of having discernible value? This is like the world’s worst employee pointing to his attendance record. ‘Yeah, I was the cancer of the business, fair cop. But I was never late for work!’
What of the fans that simply cannot attend? Is the girl in India a second rate fan? Is the man in Canada an idiot? Is the mother of 4 in Norfolk a time waster? No. The answer is too many idiots are over inflated with their own sense of self importance and indeed worth.
I’m aware of the pressures modern day fans face. Cost, burden of expectation all that jazz. My response to those of you weak willed enough to hide behind these and other pieces of equally worthless rubbish is simple. Ever thought this isn’t for you? Devote your time to something that gives you actual pleasure. Collect stamps, take up sewing, take a small plot of your garden, tend it and grow something. Root vegetables are as much of a reward to some as a sophisticated vine.
Tomorrow we’ll discuss the squad and the way the boss has used it thus far.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Avb the con man master tactician clown out out out.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Not good enough to make a tee shirt.
Construct something. Even if it’s Meccano.
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Teddyboy Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:54 pm
So, focus on crowd response, what happened to the balanced view on tje football matters, this (crowd getting on our back) was always the case, nothing new..?
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jerkinmahjurgen Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Exactly. AVBs’ style doesn’t support our crowd, and they don’t support his style. Nothing new to know you need to get the crowd behind you. AVB’s like a fish on my shag-pile carpet. I’m trying to see the light with this geezer but… it’s pitch-black. Doom and gloom. Gotta live for now. Not 2525. Another shoddy performance at home against another team with relegation fears at the back of their minds and you’re criticizing the fans because they’re not impressed? You’re unbelievable, Harry. All the great performances we had under Redknapp [the rat-bag, yes...] but you criticized throughout even when he was on our side and now you expect us to sing for this dismal shit? Yeah, I’m signing. Fuck Off AVB. Make me a t-shirt. Toned it a bit ‘cos you’re the sensitive, professional type, k?
Liamyid Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Why you bigging up arsenals support? Our away fans are just as good. In fact out home support is pretty fucking good to. The loudest and most passionate fans are the ones who will be the ones who have their heart on there sleeve. Us, West ham, stoke, Newcastle, all the loud grounds get the booing and moaning when things go bad, but all create great atmosphere when their getting behind the team. What’s difference in booing to your constant article after article slating Redknapp and trying to get him out? I think you are an idiot.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Lovely
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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Give it a f@cking rest HH will you plz.
This ‘lad’ is way out of his depth, way out.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Darren, make a point. Seriously, I hear your pain mate but I don’t feel it.
Expand.
Make a point. Construct an argument. You can so this!
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Essexspur Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:31 pm
So you were on here slagging him off when we beat Utd for the first time in 23 years. I wasn’t there. Haven’t even seen the highlights. But a couple of home Defeats means enough is enough. Lets sack him and bring in Pep tomorrow and be done with it. Oh wait a min were fucking 5th after ten games with no Kaboul, Dembele, BAE, Parker, Ade. Lets all take a bloody chill pill. Far to early to judge. And from what I’ve heard we are embarrassing ourselves as fans at home. Sounding a bit like the library down the road I hear. Slate me if you want. I wasn’t there. But doesn’t sound we were exactly screaming our support. We all have bad days at the office
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essexian76 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:38 pm
It must be either the Essex air or our orange girls, but I’m with you 100%
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:46 pm
It’s the white stiletto’s, trust me!
Jim Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 10:23 pm
I was there and you’re spot on.
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Essexspur Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 10:41 pm
On top of it all Chelsea, Man City, and Everton drew. Arsenal lost. We only lost significant ground to Utd and that’s if you consider us a top 3 prospect. I’m just watching Everton and Arsenal for now
November 3rd, 2012 at 7:29 pm
In the words of Mr Hancock stone me what a loud of rubbish seriously its been coming for a while.Was any body there today I ve heared more noise in a silent film
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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:30 pm
HH the team was a disgrace.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Expand.
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spurtan Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Dissssssggggrrrraaaaaccccceeeeee
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
We should have played for 90 min like we played in the last 20.NO REAL FIGHT,NO BALANCE,AVB is coaching us to do what exactly?NO PATTERN TO OUR PLAY,you never know what SPURS will turn up,Bale plays badly the team plays badly.Do you really think the team is improving?Yes we have injuries but the players that are picked are not giving their all to the team
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jerkinmahjurgen Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 10:53 pm
The players are doing what they’re asked to do. They weren’t told to get at ‘em until we were behind. We should’ve started this game, and others like how we play when it’s over bar the signing. And I want us to play like that. Out of the blocks quickly. None of this ‘patient’, clueless, spineless crap I’m subjected to watching. The guy doesn’t knoe English football or Tottenhams’ history or priorities. We chose Spurs because of the style and swagger. Not Arsenal or Westham or, of course, Man u or Liverpool. We’re not mercenary glory-hunting plastics. We want to be entertained. I want to be wowing on the edge of my seat for 90 mins. I want grass sex. Not clicking other pages I have up to save my eyes and head from the pain of seeing us go from having an envious midfield to virtually none. Friedel was like a fucking play-maker. Why isn’t AVB screaming for us to get the ball wide? Lennon and Bale are our hope without Dembele in there. We’ve gone from having balls to none. How many more starts for Dempsey? It’s unbelievable, our home performances and Harry you’re asking fans to explain themselves. To imply you can’t see the obvious… How can you be behind this pathetic, boring football we’re playing? Look at our home record. We might still [somehow
] be in a good league position but we’re gonna soon be going down quicker than Kyle Walker in a touch-a-thon.
November 3rd, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Well said man, since the past 7 years ever since i started watching football, I’ve supported this club. I am from India, where football watchers are divided into Utd, arsenal and Liverpool supporters mostly, maybe some Liverpool fans. My friends always, year after year made fun because of the disappointing results of my club, but hell i never wavered from my support. Yes I like many other expected the win, and was like the team a bit overconfident…but that in no way justified the boos the audience gives to this team. I would die to come to WHL someday and shout my heart out for this team, and yet the privileged 30k odd people who do go there end up booing the team off as if its a fucking away match…Damn the world is full of irony.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Prannay, welcome.
And let me confirm that which probably already know. YOU are representative. Most fans are like you.
That is why the ‘audience’ at WHL is such a let down.
Hope to hear more from you
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Namaste
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Om Shanti
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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:37 pm
I supported the team all through the game today but I admit I booed the Defoe substitution, that decision was clueless when we needed to score. The atmosphere was dire but it is a two way street the team have to play their part and today they were found wanting, tepid, cautious, restricted football does not get you out of your seat.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Nicola, we’ll do tactic tomorrow, but do you think your booing was about ‘you wanting to turn the performance of Spurs around’ or a selfish act?
Tell the truth!
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Summerspur Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Is there any truth in the unrest over too much training? I was at the game today and at one point when we were repeatedly passing around the back for half an hour I seriously thought the players were on some kinda strike, trying to make a point me thinks.
Avb seemed to be applauding the park lane as they threw the ball to brad time after time after yet another wigan shot , thinking they were in on his new tactic .
We were shit , seriously shit and to be honest have been for large parts of the season. Was gonna refrain from any avb judgements til way after crimbo but to me something is very wrong .
Injuries ,yeah blah blah blah. A goal down to wigan and he takes a striker off. It’s not like he was leaving modric, gazza or klinsmann on. We had Dempsey and gulfi weaving there magic FFS
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Andy Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Defoe barely touched the ball all game. I think that fact alone justifies AVB’s substitution. Starting friedel however cannot be justified. He really slows the play down and gives away possesion every time and his reluctance to come off his line has become a hindrance on set pieces. LLORIS IN MR. VILLAS-BOAS!!
Nicola Berti Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:13 pm
To be honest it was an instinctive reaction to an appalling decision, I could have shouted ‘you twat’ but doubt he would have heard
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:52 pm
At one point Dawson was warming up in the second half and I expected Bale to make way for him
DessySpur Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
There was a guy behind me with a face of complete insanity (I jest in no way as I was scared for my son) screaming abuse about AVB and others were doing the same of course but God its ugly to be around, the venom and hate were not where I want to spend my afternoon.I was gutted completely and went home miserable but Harry this is an illness that is infectious as you describe yourself.
Bottom line is
PLEASE STAY AWAY IF YOU WANT TO ABUSE MY BELOVED SPURS!
Strewth we beat Manure 3-2 what a month ago???
Bought nice Spurs hat though so not all bad
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Bobbles Reply:
November 7th, 2012 at 10:44 am
Too many morons there like that. I worry for their health, and the poor bruised bodies of their wives later that day.
November 3rd, 2012 at 7:41 pm
We were terrible today, and Wigan were as brilliant as they could possibly be. I’ll surely sulk over the weekend. But after that, just as today, I’ll get behind the team again for a (relatively) massive game we next have in Europe.
Please don’t boo. It’s counter-intuitive. Show the team why WE deserve a good performance.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Well, we were at home and Mr Dempsey was playing invisible man (again I might add). AVB takes off our top goal scorer and replaces with Ade. Didn’t make any sense to me at all. Dempsey should have gone. It was glaringly obvious not just to me but also the crowd going by their reaction.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:43 pm
I think there are a number of players in todays team who dont know how to play in their positions because the positions dont make sense they are dempsey and Siggers I think this is beginning to affect the amount of essort they put in .
There are others like Thudd who knows he is no part of AVB’s plans and plays like a plum.
There were players on the bench who do care who played well on Weds. They should have started given Wigan’s expanive open flowing game.
I thought AVB was spineless.
But not as spineless as levy.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Supporters vent their frustration for a reason…..the reason is the clown who is managing our club constantly makes baffling decisions in EVERY game we play!! Even when we win it’s by the skin of our teeth and after he’s made a ludicrous substitution….Livermore on to shore up the team is a particular favorite of his, to which inevitably leads to an opposition goal. AVB is a clueless idiot with no tactical nous…..you used to harp on about Redknapp not having a plan B……well I’m not convinced AVB has a plan A!! We will NEVER achieve anything under his guidance and stubborn, idiotic mentality. Slow, chess-like football is not what I call entertainment….
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 7:58 pm
That is amazingly insightful. If I get it tattooed on my bottom will you want a royalty?
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:11 pm
About as insightful as the yawn-fest blog you continue to drone on about……was the same when HR was manager, same old drivel and pig ignorant bullshit. You are pro-aVB because you made such a big deal about getting shot of Redknapp….if a Redknapp team had played like that today you’d have wanted his family home burnt, let alone been worried about a few boos. You are a fuckwit
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essexian76 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:28 pm
PS…Under Redknapp we lost 0-1 at home to Wigan,Wolves, Norwich and Stoke, drew with Blackpool need I go on?
Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Allin Harrys first 2 months yeah??
essexian76 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Erm….no, Wigan loss was the season after the 9-1, the other defeats were long into Harry’s reign-His 2 month home losses were Everton at home 2008-9. The point I’m making is simply good managers can also produce poor displays and results-If we’ve hired a bloke for 3 years-don’t get knee-jerky after 10 games, under mitigating circumstances I may add. And before you ask-I was vocally pro-Moyes and wouldn’t have touched AVB with the proverbial, but I’m a supporter first and foremost, so I’ll go with the flow-for now anyway
Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:58 pm
We have not played anywhere near the level we have become used to in a full 90 mins this season. We could have easily got 0 or 1 point at home to the current bottom club QPR if it wasn’t for a mad few minutes. They were the better side IMO. AVB is a clown….the Chelsea players were unfortunately right I’m afraid…..he’s even trying to win the Europa but can’t beat the mighty Maribor or Panathanikos
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cookiebun Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:25 pm
The 1-0 defeat to Wigan in 2010 was our only home defeat that season.
essexian76 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Those I mentioned were not in the first 2 months of Harry’s reign-as was suggested! Wolves-Stoke defeats cost us dearly-Norwich last season cost Harry. I’m not arguing over Symantec’s-just emphasising that regardless of the result and against any opposition-bad performances are part and parcel and it’s players who win games-not managers!
Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 10:20 pm
I didn’t suggest it, that’s why I said it….every manager has bad results over their career, you named a few of Harrys but hat came over a period of years….AVB has had the same amount in 2 months
essexian76 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:06 pm
First up MBK,its a game about two teams, it’s not a cabaret, if you want entertainment-go watch a show-where entertainments guaranteed. But today was so dire, I left 15 mins before the end, and I haven’t done that since Hoddle was the boss. After Weds, I was a little peeved but put that down to the perils of cup football and thought we’d perform better today-boy, was I wrong-We were absolute tripe, but-I’ve seen better managers than AVB serve up tripe of a similar type and style to understand that you cannot condemn a bloke on a few dodgy displays-We need an impactual midfielder-Like Parker-Like Sandro-like Dembele to hold, break and move things along and that was missing today-Roll on Jan-As for the substitution meh!
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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Go to the away games have a beers and a sing song.
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:19 pm
I did, last Sunday….and his halftime team talk + substitutions almost cost us 3 points v the worst team I’ve seen for a long long time. The 7-3-0 formation was scintillating for the last 15-20 mins at the St Marys…..
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nobby nobbs Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:06 pm
At least you can kid yourself the football is not as important away.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Pranny-well said. My thoughts are that there’s going to be games where it doesn’t go to plan and it certainly sounds like this was one of them! Harry your points as usual are well put and hopefully makes people step back and think what a supporter should be when things aren’t going well. Having said all that Defoe has been living on borrowed time and maybe LLoris could be now in with a shout at a run of games.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
totally agree Harry! Blame does not help – I was watching in Canada and the players need lift – very muted atmosphere. Wigan played good stuff and we gotta get behind the lads. Dembele is a huge miss and Sandro going off is a worry. Carroll is a little Ossie in the making.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Carroll coming on was a mistake. We were chasing the game. I would have put Falque on and moved Bale inside. Bale was busting a gut today and we needed to get him on the ball as much as possible. Falque has a goal threat and that’s what we needed. Anyway, well done Gareth bale I could see you were trying so hard today to turn the game around.
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cookiebun Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Agreed about both Bale and Falque.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Ive seen the lowlights. I’m not sure about the black strip ? the chocolate one I liked for sure. The defoe lad has got taller? blonde hair? strange?
booing when in black and at home even stranger?
don’t know why everyone wants AVB out this is typical spurs 42 years man and boy..beat someone good lose to someone worse…booing is rubbish COYS
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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:59 pm
The only game we made an attempt to whole-heartedly play was against chelsea.
All the rest were either half-hearted or with no heart whatsoever!!
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Jim Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 10:31 pm
You talking about the ‘support’ yeah?
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Our first eleven are a match for any team in the premiership. Unfortunately when one, two or more key players are missing e.g. Dembele, Sandro/ Parker we’re likely to struggle because the replacements are not remotely of similar standard – there was zero effective protection for the back 5 today once Sandro had departed…..despite only having one striker on the field!!
Desperately need our first teamers back and a couple of January signings……and of course to play Lloris.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
I dont agree with booing but we were dire today one of the worst performence’s ive ever seen from us! i dont slag avb but his desisions tacticaly and subs were terrible the team put in no effort and the fans were just as bad and have been like it all season at home, apart from moments in the chelsea game and this dempsey he is useless
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
So basically yr blaing the fans then Harry
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Dani Boy Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Come again?
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:02 pm
OH Mr 1 league cup in 11 years Levy, How you have f***** up again.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:02 pm
So basically yr blaming the fans then Harry
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:03 pm
No.
Or I would have said that.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Ok, what are you saying then? You speak in riddles. (cue abusive reply)
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Only the Riddler speaks in riddles. No one does riddling better than the Riddler!
Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Billy the riddler..you speak in riddles. Your tongue is twisted. About time you had a chat wit the “wise woman”.
Billy Legit Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
She’s fit!
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:03 pm
I am pretty sure we lost/drew last season to Wigan at home, sop no point keel hauling AVB.
I reflect with sadness that with the loss of flair with the departures of modric and VdV we have Dempsey and Siggy who look to be average at best, low quality at worst.
January is a long way away; we hold out hope for Dembele returning ASAP but in the mean time, our central midfield of Livermore/Huddlestone and Sandro need some coaching and a tactical tweak to help our control over the game.
We still won at Old Trafford this season too!
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:13 pm
We got 6 points against Wigan last year….so good try silly boy
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Andy Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:25 pm
And 0 against united rendering your argument invalid! Ya win some ya lose some. Off day everyone has them. Now please stop supporting spurs if you are not actually going to support them.
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
I’m at home, how do I support spurs when they are not playing. I was at the lane earlier supporting them….and did I show disbelief at the substitution? Yes….and I’m happy to say the majority also did.
wowsers Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Meh we dropped points against the “w”s and relegation cadidates. My point remains.
What is yours?
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 10:04 pm
You are clueless and knowledge of the club is pathetic. I have no intention to get into a debate with someone who makes things up
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Pointless really,
Now its the way the the fans behave that decide the outcome of the game, and the decisions of the people in charge, i hope not really. Are we not talking about well-paid professionals here, whose performance and decisions should stand up to the voice of the people straight away anyway? I dont expect the unreasonable, but i do expect this group of “professionals” to perform better and win against Wigan Athletic, any day, so i can understand and agree with the question marks, voiced as bookng the bloody wrong selection and substitution, any day.
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Correct, but HH will never admit that it’s the reason….last season it was Harrys fault…..now it’s the fans…..the geezer is a complete bombhead
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
When we play lower teams in the league you can usually see how the result is going to end in the first 10 mins which is how i saw it today especially when the fans are making no noise at all and start getting on the players back but that is no excuse as spurs were usless today!
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:10 pm
I reallly thought that HR should go after the run of games from January onwards. I initially thought that AVB would do well, with a point to prove. However, this is the first time since George Graham times that I have thought about giving up my season ticket.
I don’t boo (ever) but I can understand the frustration. Where is the fight, where is the pace – sooooo slow. This result has been coming for quite a few weeks.
As fans, we all believe that we could do a better job than the manager. You know what, I think most of us could at the moment
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Here is one a Russian with stolen money from Siberia Governor Abv bought Chelsea he pumped millions of his ill gotten wealth into Chelsea and won things. He then paid 15 million for a Potugeezer who won the baby Ufa and the easy Portugal league. He won fuck all and made Chelsea a laughing stock so Abv sacked him and put a failed West Brom man in his place they won two things one he wanted. The problem with this man are many looks are okay media skills are a shambles croaky voice and eyes like a guns in his back ready to shoot. Passion he has plenty and can be seen like Mrs Bean prancing about thumping fresh air and looking like he getting electrocuted Tactics clip board and if it don’t work use mental skills ability zero goal down a striker with rust in his legs and swaps another striker who may just get the room he was denied and score then he brings a kid on with less hours than the striker wheres Falque benched Verdict out thought out energized the North West tipple and out scored debate that because its true
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:18 pm
So you don’t think much of AVB then Dav…?
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davspurs Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:17 pm
I love him its just he never speaks to me or ask me why we keep getting fucked in the second halfgod knows i have tried to tell him Defoe is 5ft7 Ady is 6ft4 together they make one Crouch. A fukin hand full in English Magnifico in spanish.
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Dani Boy Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Is this a rap?
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Yes but with the leading “C” missing.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Although the atmosphere at White Hart Lane has been awful since Newcastle at home in February, how anyone who doesn’t go like you Harry Hotspur, who thinks they have the right to criticise those who do go is beyond me. And all your nonsense about girls in India and mothers in Norfolk (slightly strange examples I feel) well yes they are not proper fans like the ones who attend.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
TBH the atmosphere at WHL has always been hit or miss.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:22 pm
You presume I don’t go. But what is better yet is that you are ‘delighted’ to denigrate support that isn’t something you can rationalize within your own desperately sad and ridiculous ‘value system’ as being ‘lower than you’ Christ. What a wretched life you clearly lead.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Eh…what..?
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Snot!
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
It’s not rocket science: you just pick a team, formation, and tactics not better suited to an away game, but rather a home game.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
I take the HH point that booing, negativity and lack of support only increases our problems.
Today’s debacle is not in isolation. AVB has not yet won over the home support. Whatever the behaviour and attitude of the WHL faithful, they’re either happy or not. The performances decide which. Its the Spurs way. No one minds if we go out in a blaze of glory, but they’ve never stood for mediocre crap. It says it all round the stadium for Christs sakes. Its about GLORY. Its glory or booing and AVB has not yet unleashed the Glory. I hope to God he unleashes the Glory very soon for all our sakes.
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Because the football is abysmal….and we look a shadow of the side we were. Yes we won at OT…..does it really matter after picking up 2 points at home to WBA, Norwich and Wigan? I’d rather we got done 8-0 at OT and won those 3 games. The win at OT has papered over huge cracks in some people’s eyes…..quite why I have no idea
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essexian76 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
I’m sure after losing 8-0 at OT you’d have been posting ‘If we beat Wigan, I’ll be happy with that?’ I don’t think so somehow!
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
You know me knowdo you? I think I said I’d rather we lost 8-0 at OT and won the 3 home games we should have, and didn’t.
essexian76 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Still resonates the same-regardless of today’s result-we’ve got a Micky Mouse fest on Thursday-followed by another trip to Manchester.
In the words of the late
Jimmy SavilleMichael JacksonBubbles the Chimp-I’ll be there-as ever-and we’ll all have a few beers and good old sing song- it must be the Irish in me- just ask Roy Keane-away games tend to bring out the best in Spurs lately-unlike our home games seem toPeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:30 pm
500 fans sang their heart out for the team in our last Europa away game and the team played crap in the second half.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Hahaha
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Honest, forthright and to the point , once again I applaud you H . To the boo boys at the lane today and previously this season – read this , digest it properly, take a good long honest look at yourself and then comment
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:33 pm
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:27 pm
He’s nothing but a ginger fraud, AVB out.
Get harry back
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Unleash the hounds…
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
…….OF HELL!
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:32 pm
The atmosphere at White Hart Lane is largely created by the fans in the lower tier South stand and the corner of the East stand. However in recent weeks all we ver get from the rather rude Stewards in tghise sections of the ground is “sit down”. “If you don’t sit down you will be ejected. I had an argument with one such steward at the Villa game and was so incensed by his arrogance that I felt compelled to write to the Club to complain. I have heard nothing to date as a response from the Club. Today I nwitnessed another such confrontation between another fan and a different steward. Thesealtercations then involve a large section of the crowd and take the focus of attention away from the game. Yet at the recent game against Chelsea the fans were told “it’s ok you can stand today”!! These inconsitencies aggravate the situation. If the Club want an atmosphere then they have to leave the crowd, who generate the atmosphere, alone. The remainder of the crowd will then get behind the team and we will once again enjoy the vocal support that our Club and our Stadium is famous for!!
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Davros Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:34 am
Great post.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Suspect things will look even worse after our next 2 league fixtures.
As for the gooner fans, like ours, their home supporters are not averse to booing when they play badly. Their match VS FC Schalke last week was an example.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Spurs fans have ever been a fickle lot, but with you on this HH. My first season on the terraces was the glorious double season and its been a bit downhill ever since. Partly I blame all seating (how can what you call the tribe stay together?). Partly just general greed by football…I can hardly ever get a ticket these days. But then again, this team hasn’t really been given a chance, Dembele out, Ade not around, Parker, Bennie et all long time injuries, its all been a bit disjointed. The away win at Manure was a major high, but surely we all knew there would be a trough and we’ve hit it, and we’ll get over it. And at least it was Wigan, who play nice football…..unlike Stoke for example.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
But what did you think of AVB’s sub’s today?
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Darren Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Like every decision the ginger prat makes, a bad one
He’s way out of his depth
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:46 pm
So what would you have done?
Darren Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:50 pm
I would of played 442 from the off against Wigan.
And to take Defoe off……………….
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
moaning about the booing makes me laugh you and many others on here prattled on about avb being the new messiah and having the tactical knowledge to take us to the next level which on present form will be mid table and not where we have been for the last few years , avb is out of his depth the players dont seem to know what they are supposed to be doing and the whole squad seems to have distinct lack of passion , i have said the levy is the architect of this farce with his clueless moves in the transfer market why we signed some of these players i will never know and the employment of avb and his lack of knowledge in man management is undermining the squad to the extent that they look like 11 seperate people and not a team , people pay vast sums to support their team , to watch football and to be entertained and so far this season it has fallen woefully short so they have every right to boo their team at the end of the game to let the people know we are going to accept this rubbish and that things need to change . if this carries on you can bet that the like of bale and others will want out come the end of the season then all the jewels will have gone and replaced with paste . be carefull what you wish for !
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:44 pm
“the whole squad seems to have distinct lack of passion”. That’s a bit unfair.
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:46 pm
At last someone speaking not only sense but the truth. Booing is wrong during the game but the only boos were during the substitution of EA for Defoe and at the final whistle…..had no effect on the performance or outcome. HH is too busy milking AVBs c0ck dry to see what he’s turning our club into……ie a complete boring shower of old shit. But AVB is apparently a tactical genius so watch this space………
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:48 pm
I disagee he’s genius albeit in a tactical way. Fook that’s the same thing!!!
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
whats all the fuss about the fans? the point is that the team has been consistently underperforming…perhaps the expectations were too high..certainly no harm in making your disapproval of their commitment to the badge known to a bunch of overpaid millionaire primadoonas.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Today’s match was utter dross from start to finish and it was far from a one off this season. Of course AVB is partly to blame, but I feel sympathy for a manager in the last chance saloon who’s been set up as Levy’s scapegoat. When you compare the squad to last season, especially today’s bench, there’s a significant drop in quality. Baring Dembele, you can’t sell your stars and experienced squad players and replace them with mid table “bargains”.
As for the critism of the fans, HH you’re an idiot. Those that boo’d today were widely criticised by those around them. But you wouldn’t know when cheering hysterically from the warmth of your armchair.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Grow up you tarts, AVB was left with a shambles by the other clown. We will come good
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Ha ha …muppet!
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Darren Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Shambles……….this was the manager that took us to 2 4th place finishes, this prat will get us 4th, 4th from bottom….
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a_felching Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Do me a favor, the previous imbecile should have won the league with the players we had. I take it you want Levy to wield the axe because we are 7 points off top spot.
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Darren Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 pm
I want Levy to wield the axe as I didn’t want the prick in the first place.
Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Clearly another prick who never goes……
Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Just trawling through the comments. You can get fucked off for that. What an idiot.
a_felching Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Yep, I don’t go because I left London 16 years ago to live abroad.
Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Well I suggest you listen to people who go and watch the games rather than making up nonsense out of thin air? Harry was never perfect but fucking hell AVB is making him look like Biily Nick!!!!
Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Stats say otherwise.
a_felching Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Please do not patronise me with that line of shite, I catch most games I do not live on Jupiter. I have followed Spurs for over 35 years and do not need some mong who may have a mate with a season ticket to tell me about my team.
Wigan were by far the better team on the day, that happens in football. It is not ideal losing but when you grow up and grow pubes and so on you will be able to get over Spurs losing on the odd occassion
Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:32 pm
If you must know I’m 34 and followed Spurs since the mid 80s so trust me when I say I know what I’m talking about regarding the club I SUPPORT (look up the meaning of the word) I know Wigan were better…..thats my fucking issue, they are shit!!!! And AVB is tactically inept, not sure if they doctor the highlights they show in your country but it is horrendous football under AVB
November 3rd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
The booing is frustration at a blind perseverance with poor performers. If ever there was a game to start Carroll, Adebayor and Falque it was today. In AVB’s defence, with Dembele injured Dempsey and Sigurdsson are not in the same class as Modric and VdV.
The unwillingness to change suggests AVB has lost touch with reality, a la Stamford Bridge this time last year which is a real worry.
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chiversmetimbers Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:12 pm
we look like the chavs did this time last year too…
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Except shitter
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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:03 pm
In defence (defense) of AVB Modric and VdV leaving had nothing to do with the new manger. I’m not sure that Dempsey and Sigurdsson had much to do with him either.
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:08 pm
If AVB wanted VDV he would have stayed. Yes we got good money for him and yes we’d seen the best of him but to replace him with Gylfi Sigurdsson is criminal…..not fit to lace Van Der Valks boots let alone Van Der Vaarts
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4 Ever Hopeful Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Er I think that was my point
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
But I was replying to Steveo1987?
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4 Ever Hopeful Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:15 pm
I really like this wine!
Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
VDV was going to go as soon as Hamburg had the cash. It was a family thing there would have been no stopping him. I don’t think anyone was to blame here.
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Plus, we’d just come to a agreement with Porto over the transfer of Moutinho so letting van der Vaart go made perfect sense at the time.
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:04 pm
I don’t think the comparison with Arsenal’s away support and our home support under a new manager that came with a lot of negative baggage to overcome, is particularly fair. In fact it makes no sense at all… Our away support will also sing when we’re losing and Arsenal’s home crowd can make WHL’s look like the best fans that ever existed. The Goon’s home crowd is seriously, seriously crap and ours can also be perhaps to a lesser extent, on a bad day.
The main difference for me is that there is a kind of loyalty to Wenger that seems to galvanise the crowd even when things are going badly. He’s shaped the club in his own vision, he has won things for them, in fact he is the architect of the modern day Goon show. Their fans respect him because of the standing he has and the things he has achieved.
You cannot compare our home crowd’s reaction to a manager that is to a large degree an unknown quantity in this country (and our 10th or whatever it is during the time Wenger has been in his job) to that of Arsenal’s away support. Well you can, but on what grounds?
The fact of the matter is, WHL has always been a place where things are supposed happen the Spurs way. If we lose and play the way we like to see then perhaps we accept that and hope for better next time but to lose and stink the place out at home is just not allowed. It’s part of our identity, if our fans started accepting terrible football and losing without scoring at home then we just won’t be Spurs anymore, in my humble opinion.
If you support Spurs, there are certain standards that have to be met, win, draw and especially lose. We, AVB, Levy and everyone including the tea lady must accept that this is the kind of thing we Spurs fans have a right to. We cannot let go of that attitude to these matters, it is fundamental.
Unreasonable or as unbalanced as it may seem at times, it’s what makes us Spurs. If people don’t like it, then tough cheese old boy!!
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DJB Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Well said!
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East Stand Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Cheers. I thought the whole article was pretty scathing of the fans given how poor the team were. It actually doesn’t stand up, even as an opinion to me. You can’t force supporters to be happy if they aren’t, that’s like Stalin having the crowd watched during his speeches to see who stopped clapping first!!
It’s just a bit of an odd concept, i could understand it if we had played well and lost. Also if we’d played well lots of times at home before but the truth of the matter is we have mainly been poor at home and that’s it.
If the heat goes on to the manager then it does, goes with the territory. And at the end of the day who cares? Does the manager or players expect much else after playing like a sack of pig sick? I doubt it. They know they haven’t played well and half expect booing, they’re paid to do a job, the team and the manager. Do it well or to an acceptable standard and no booing. It’s quite simple really!!
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:58 am
If Uncle Joe Stalin was in charge, we’d kick ass!
MIKE T Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 1:07 am
brilliant
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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:06 pm
I am going to watch the highlights now on RTE 2, I will give my views after.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Muppet!
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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:06 pm
It is no surprise that our away form is better as the fans have our boys nervous when they take the field at the Lane. It really amazes me…Is it worth wrecking the confidence of the team at home just to drive a perception of AVB? I thought points on the board was all that mattered.
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East Stand Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:23 pm
You make a good point but is our away form more to do with the fact that under this manager we are more defensive and play purely on the break?
I would have thought there should be a different tactical emphasis at home but there just doesn’t seem to be. This hands the momentum to the visiting side and makes the natives restless. Then to do a striker for striker swap rather than going 2 up top when trailing and playing badly is really gonna wind people up!!
I think this thing about ‘tactical ability’ with managers is focused on far too much. I wouldn’t say AVB has shown any more tactical flair or ability than Redknapp, who by the way everyone thought was a tactical dinosaur. There are managers that play a certain way and ones that win more than others, are there any other types? I don’t think so personally…
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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:11 pm
AVB will last the season….he will not be in charge for the start of next season. Mark my words
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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Maribor must be crapping themselves…
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Maribor?………I’M shitting myself!
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Who needs Maribor when you have TottenBORE
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East Stand Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:27 pm
That made me laugh… Even as frightening the prospect of facing Maribor at home has now become!!
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Bricking it big time!
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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
I didn’t boo today, mr have I ever, but it was a truly shocking performance, the worst I can remember in the last few years. Not sure if it can be pinned on AVB, but the team started poorly and ever improved. Sure we miss Moussaka D, but I am still shocked at how far Huddlestone as fallen midfield sets the trend and pace of pay and he was truly desperate today. We were dominated by Ben Watson and James McArthur (or McCarthy?) ad that s not good. The Ade/Defoe subbing was mental – Dempsey was shocking and Defoe had had no service for 65 minutes. Cannot understand. There really were zero redeeming aspects of today, which I think is what really upset the fans. Hard for them to inspire a team which appears not to care, in the majority – t becomes a downward spiral, I’m afraid.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:18 pm
I’m sure the players wanted to do well, but I don’t think they understand why they didn’t. The team it pains me to say seem to miss the beating heart that was Ratboy and the intelligence of VDV.
we don’t have any playmakers, lots of hares and no coyotes
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King Glenn Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
It’s a bit scary how big a void Dembele leaves. I was never a big VdV fan – way too slow – but today we were worse than pedestrian. Tom the Statue apart, I was so disappointed by Gylfi and Demsey. With our front three, it is critical that we play at pace, but we did anything but today. I really fear for us in the next two PL games. The next two weeks will be a good indication of AVB’s management and tactical abilities. Lets’s hope he proves the doubters wrong.
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East Stand Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Probably why we need to be careful of being too harsh on AVB at this stage because without the newly named Mousakka Dembele, we have no playmaker. Zero creativity… Perhaps January will produce another playmaker of some sort. What about Falque? Maybe he needs a few games while Dembele’s missing? I think Verthongen is possibly our most creative player at the moment!!
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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Sorry, i didn’t spell check in my traumatic state. Moussaka Dembele? Is predictive text racist? A night job for John Terry?
Will try harder in future……..
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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Today was a bad day. The team played badly, there’s no hiding that. Let me break this down:
Us “fans” were appalling. As a season ticket holder the atmosphere at the games has been ‘Arsenal-esque’. Quiet, subdued, boring and not the fans who we were last season. 10 minutes into the match and the fans were groaning and complaining. Why? Boo the decision to bring Defoe off for Adebayor. Why? I can understand what your arguments may be BUT Defoe was completely and utterly ineffectual. He had no impact on the game at ANY stage. His finishing of late hasn’t been too pleasing either. Fans have been calling on Defoe to be dropped for Adebayor anyway. Make your mind up. Us “fans” need to get behind our beloved team, not give them an environment where they are scared to make a mistake. We’re meant to be the 12th man of our team. SO PLAY YOUR PART.
Now to the team, it was shocking, deadfall, tedious, predictable, lacklustre etc etc etc. One player I was especially disappointed with is Aaron Lennon. I have a high opinion of this guy but today he could have done so much more. He was never available. Countless times Walker was on the right hand side only to find Lennon in-field and out-of-reach. Later on he switched to the left, many times he was in a position to take Ramis on. Lennon has the beating of any defender on his day, but he seemed reluctant to take him on. Instead he would dribble into the middle and pass the ball to a congested area. Secondly, why oh why do spurs fans think so much of Tom Huddlestone? He has all the potential to be a great player but he has been at this level for at least 4 years. Today he was especially slow, lacked vision and lacked any ‘bite’ in the middle. We need better back-ups to Dembele because Huddlestone is not up the level of football that the team can play at. Next I would like to say the Lloris needs to become our ‘Number 1′. I applaud Brad for his saves today but his kicking put us under pressure many times and simply gift-wrapped the ball back into the Wigan’s possession.
Now before people become worried or cluelessly call for AVB’s head, we must remember we are in the infancy of AVB’s project. We have half a team of key players out injured. AVB doesn’t even have the players he asked for. Our teams backbone had been removed in the summer (King, Modric and Van der Vaart) and we had to recreate ourselves. Be patient because AVB will lead us to success. Relax and support your team!
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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Writing this off as a bad day at the office. Every team has them. No team has ever played an entire season and won every game comfortably. We weren’t good enough today and I put that down to the players more than the manager. Not enough passion and desire to win was shown today, Wigan just wanted it more than we did, and we’ll have yo play better next time. Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Everton all failed to win today, and all bar Arsenal’s game were “winnable” games, so this result shouldn’t be disastrous in the long term. Bring on City away next week. COYS.
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:38 pm
So what about the WBA and Norwich games? Just write them off too yeah? Oh and 2-1 up in the second half v Chelsea to lose 4-2? Write that off too…..and 1-0 up at Norwich to crash out of the cup in the last few minutes….let’s write that off….or the near full strength line ups v Europes elite Maribor and Panathanikos and can’t win…write them off too yeah? While we are at it we may aswell just write the season off eh? Great attitude you have
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Darren Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Very true. We have big problems and some very nasty fixtures in the offing.
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MIKE T Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 5:55 am
agreed
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East Stand Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:41 pm
WBA – bad day at the office.
Norwich – 2 bad days at the office!!
Panathanikos – bad day at the office.
Maribor – bad day at the office.
Today, bad day at the office etc…
Yes.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Bizarre article H.
Immediately after a grotesque defeat – the result of calamitous tactics – you choose to tell us not to talk tactics? Instead we should reflect on what crap supporters we are? Worse than Arsenal’s?
Harsh. And weird.
Considering the brutal bootings you gave Jol, Ramos and Redknapp I find your protection of AVB odd. Have you been nobbled? Financial incentive? I just don’t get it.
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a_felching Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:41 pm
He is giving him a chance, I liked Jol but he could not beat the big boys. Ramos well, Redknapp is a turd stain on our clubs great history. How he is revered by some on here is beyond me, you would swear he won the league or a cup or something
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Got us CL football, can’t quite remember the last manager that done that for us? Please remind me?
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a_felching Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:57 pm
But is that the be all of some fans expectations, I mean to say look at Arsenal year in year out they make the CL and still sell their best players and cannot get a look in with the league. I like AVB and I think he can given the time actually win trophies at the Lane
Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Oh as long as you like him then that’s alright, everything will be fine.
East Stand Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Highest ever Premier league placings twice might have something to do with it?
Fourth twice is equal to a “turd stain”… thanks for telling me, i’ll bear it in mind. I hope you’ll say the same about AVB if he delivers 4th place too!!
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Yeah when we were beating the Milan sides I thought to myself….I wish we’d sack this turd stain and employ a Chelsea reject to turn our attack-minded, free flowing, pacy football into a game of giant slow motion chess and drop plenty of home points against inferior opposition.
I’m soooooo glad my wish came true
a_felching Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
But the Turd Stain thought he was the England manager, he wanted shot of us quicker than a dose
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Prove it?
a_felching Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 10:16 pm
I don’t need to prove a fact, tell me you are not that deluded. The reason Harry is not our manager is he would not sign a new contract when the press had him crowned as the next England manager. It is well documented, I would not have a problem with him still being in charge if he wanted to stay back then.
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 10:26 pm
He never denied his ambition to manage England and most Englishmen would do the same. Fact is he never said he wanted to leave Spurs….it was just assumed he would…..as it was assumed (by everyone) that England wanted him. Harry onc again got us 4th and had it not been for Chelsea being the luckiest team in Europe we’d have been in the CL now. Sufficient reason to sack someone? I’ll ask you in May
Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Tomorrow we’ll discuss the squad and the way the boss has used it thus far.
You can read?
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Swampspur Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 12:44 am
I can. And did. But I feel it is mighty odd that, immediately after watching a suicidal tactical display, you ask us to delay talk of tactics to wallow in self-loathing because the crowd sat in silent shock and then booed at the end.
Anyway of couse they booed. It’s quite normal anywhere. The tactics were shit.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:39 pm
…just seen Azza singing on Xfactor!!
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Walcott surely?
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:06 am
XFactor!!!……..is that sh*te still on?
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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Can we come to some sort of a deal on this?
A genuine and upgraded level of support for the team – especially when it’s not delivering or entertaining….and….
A few choruses of “Ya don’t know what cher doin” for the bearded muppet who can’t figure out to play two forwards in home matches?
Deal or no deal?
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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Every so often I go onto the website to see if I can book tickets for Spurs Home games and usually find that there are only a handful of tickets dotted around the ground and usually on their own.
It’s just a suggestion but couldn’t THFC run some kind of Xfactor style “Loudmouth cheerleader of the week” competition for the remaining tickets to get them to boost the singing and chanting down the lane.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 10:03 pm
When we build our new stadium,is there any way there could be some standing terracing,or is it illegal?
Going over the lane lost a lot of its magic to me when I never had a chance to stand.
Piss poor today,I was shouting like fuck at my screen,lucky with the other results though,it could have been a lot worse,In Levy I trust and fuck off all the dildo’s who love to tell us that they are season ticket holders.
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Milky Bar Yid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 10:11 pm
You can stand up whenever you like in your front room mate, as far as I’m aware you don’t have to sit on the armchair if youd prefer to stand up? Unless you live with a steward that is
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Frontwheel 2 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Been to many many games,home and away.I left England many years ago and if anything my passion for Spurs has grown,I don’t need some tosser giving it the bigern.I still get to games and the prawnies make me wanna puke.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 10:06 pm
When the team loses it’s the fans fault. When they win the manager’s a genius. The team today had no belief from the kick-off until the final whistle. That’s the managers responsibility, to prepare the team and get them buzzing. They were fucking scared today. AVB and Fruend didn’t prepare them properly. Martineze however, did prepare his team.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Did’nt go to the game today but the atmosphere seemed really odd, as if the fans were almost waiting for a reason to get on the players back. As paying fans you cannot deny them the right to vent their frustration but the problem is our team was full of players that are lacking in confidence, trying to settle into a new team or getting back to playing fitness of which I would include Walker, Sig, Dempsey & Huddlestone. The last thing these players need is a chorus of boos! I’m not saying if we all got behind the team it would gaurantee a win but as fans would it not be best to show the players and manager that we believe in them? At least we could be doing our bit to build on whatever little confidence they have. Hopefully Avb realised he got a few things wrong today whilst I would say the players let him down certainly for the first hour, but we can’t keep changing the manager and team! At least give the guy until Jan before writing him off and wait till the players are back from injury.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 10:32 pm
I was at the game today – some points I’d like to make – 1) the atmosphere was dead, terrible, thought I’d gone to the wrong place for a while. 2)All this guff about playing the Spurs way – why do all the fans starting spitting feathers if we don’t rush the ball forward straight away – we aren’t Stoke ! 3) The team were awful – again it’s guff all this stuff about not having his spine of a team – players need to make space, make themselves available for the ball- the only guy I saw doing this was Gilfi, even if he did it badly. 4) Sorry but fans again – our fans are the worst I have come across for being foul mouthed and offensive. I’ve been taking my daughter around all the London grounds, inbetween visits to WHL the last few seasons and the bad language at WHL is the worst – screaming expletive ridden abuse at the players and AVB , I feel slightly ashamed being a Spurs supporter. 5) We do have the right to boo, for me we have the right to boo when it seems we are being given less than 100%. For the record I didn’t boo today, but felt like it.6) A supporter is someone who goes to games – they support the team financialy and physically – others are fans or followers – they might feel as strongly as supporters but until they put their money were their mouths are you can’t criticise supporters – 90 mins in front of an internet stream isn’t the same as travelling to a game, spending money before and after on food and drink, paying nearly 2 days wages for me for tickets and then travelling back (worse when it’s cold lol)
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Yeah, I did all that home and away but not now. So does my opinion not count any more?
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e18Spurs Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
of course it counts.
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Spurs 37001 Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 12:19 am
Respect for your right to your own point of view but your comment made me ask why do you bother. You go to watch Spurs in a place with no atmosphere (1)with loud and offensive language regardless of young ears (3)Where supporters boo or feel like booing their own players.What is the point of physically supporting your team if you are going to boo them surely that has a negative impact and shows an inability to channel your emotions. You may be willing to sacrifice two weeks wages on such a venture but many of us “fans or followers” can’t justify this to ourselves families. I’ve watched most of our games live or down the pub but I don’t get sanctimonius about it. I go to Tottenham not as a personal sacrifice but because I love the socks off the place, the players and the Tottenham Way. Which is nothing to do with Stoke but quite a lot to do with the football that was played there for the last few seasons. Oh and by the way in football “supporters” refused to pay the ridiculous prices at the Lane there’d be thousands more that would be willing to take their places if it were more in line with the average joe public’s salaryband.
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e18Spurs Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Because they are my team – if you read rightly then you will see I said I didn’t boo, and it was 2 days wages, not two weeks – I know tickets are high and wages poor, but not that bad, lol!
I think I touched a raw nerve here Spurs 37001 – the atmosphere was awful at the game, it was there’s no denying – it’s not always like that, sorry I am not clairvoyant to know what the atmosphere will be like, although I go to see Spurs, the atmosphere is second. When both Spurs and the atmosphere are awful should we just ignore that? I am not sure what is sanctimonious about what I said, in fact it is in my opinion sanctimonious of people who aren’t there to criticise fans for getting upset.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Reknapp was a short term manager but did so well he had the chance of staying with us longer term. Once the England job became vacant he staged a footballing dirty protest. Whatever talent he has his greatest enemy is himself..muggy c=nt.
AVb needs to grow some bollocks and try the youngsters especially as we have such injuries.
Carroll offers more than Afro fart Huddlestone.
Not only can Falque dribble it would appear that he has a more accurate shot than any other player bar Bale.
I just hope AVB doesnt have a stick up his arse.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Hopefully he’ll pick VDV next game.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 11:27 pm
if our fans did what Arsenal fans did sing we love you Arsenal when Utd where mauling them like a pack of hounds we would win fuck all for seven years. We have a right to be when a team in the lower reagons make us look bottom three and the Manager helps the opposition by picking a Two pensioners who go stiffer the longer the game goes on then its our given right to BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AND FUCK YOOOOOOOOOOOAVB in Harry we trusted in AVB We Must Coys
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November 3rd, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Got a great tshirt for you Harry and they are already made designed and on sale, they might have a picture of some rapper turned singer turned rapper but they fit our situation perfectly and you may be able to get a job lot cheap if you know ray winston? The t shirt oh yes PLAN B
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November 3rd, 2012 at 11:34 pm
The main reason for the bad atmosphere is that the team didn’t play well and that over the last few years we have been used to watching good expansive football most of the time at home.
I remain to be convinced about AVB’s suitability to manage in this country. I’m sure he’s nice bloke and that everyone at Porto loved playing for him but so much about man management is about relationships and interaction with the players. I just wonder how easy that is for a young manager when you are from a very different culture. Add the pedestrian and relatively static brand of football we now play and you start to wonder exactly what AVB brings to the table.
Jury was still out a little on him but today it’s come back with a vengeance, great timing with a trip to the Woolwich coming uo too!!
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November 3rd, 2012 at 11:37 pm
I’ve just got home from the match, the booing doesn’t help and I’ve never done it at the team (booed a few refs in my time) but we were poor, losing Sandro was the key and we have to score when Friedel plays for obvious reasons…..
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melcyid Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:53 pm
that must have been a painful expierence for you today.
If its any consolation to you I walked in at the end of the manc v arse game today and heard the commentater say these wonderful words ” its the 92nd minute and that was ar5ena1s first shot on target”That and the look on half a dozen gooners faces as they saw the spurs shirt I had on was a special moment.
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Hartley Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 12:08 am
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November 3rd, 2012 at 11:37 pm
not only are the blue scum racists they are also mankini wearing transvestites as personally confirmed by Mr kirkham who says he is just one of the lads
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November 3rd, 2012 at 11:41 pm
we seriously miss benny who owns his portion of the pitch ,sets of bale with his forward passing and switches over pinpoint passes to Lennon, and also throws in the odd probing shot.
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:11 am
I agree. The sooner we get Disco back the better.
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Question is, would AVB play him?
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:14 am
And if he does play him will he put him in at left back or make him play just behind our lone striker?
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Plan B install Martinez and give AVB the Wigan Job we will beat Arsenal like he did last season and just escape relegation in the last week there it is.
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spurs muaythai Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:54 am
that would do me
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November 3rd, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Haven’t been to the lane in a few years, yes I hang my head in shame but I just can’t afford it now. I used to have a season ticket during the ginola years which was great at the time I think ? We used to have3 guys sit behind us who turned up 10-15 mins into the game,slagged off the players for 20 mins then go off to the bar, come back 10 mins into the second half repeat the slagging off & then go home early ! That’s the type of “fan” we have at the lane. I actually remember them hassling Chris Armstrong so much one game he went on to score a hat trick and made a beeline for these guys to make a personal statement.we have always been a fickle lot but all we ever wanted was heart,someone to play for the shirt,we had some terrible players back then but when they tried they got cheered,sung about and adored when they didn’t they got booed and abused.for £650 a season at the time I’m sure your entitled to make whatever noise you want within reason
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Sorry, your opinion doesn’t count any more as you are a “lapsed” supporter. You only count if you currently attend matches.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Good points H but one thing your point about arsenal isn’t really relevant because away fans always sing more. The emirates is still a soulless shithole
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November 3rd, 2012 at 11:45 pm
This was the worst ninety minutes since.. we are referening the unmentionables.. Graham / Gross. Sick. Almost ntirely joyless. What else can you do but smile when the lass says ‘Yes’ at half-time.
Perhaps recall the glory days, of ‘Shoot For A Holiday’.
But laying all of today’s bile at AVB is lightweight. And I’ve spent most of the night arguing that,, with co-supporters i don’t know on the way out of the ground, to the bunch i travel / dream / commiserate with.
Yes, Brad made two blinding stops,, applause,, but he can not distribute the god damn football. Bill is no longer up to it. Caulker is learning. Walker is getting worse. Jan is the most intelligent player out there. Who the hell is Captain. Why are they constantly sniping at each other.
The middle of the park.. I can no longer bear the sight of the next Glenn Hoddle. WTF. Has he made a tackle this season. Can he not deliver a corner that beats the first man. No Parker/Dem/Sandro. That’s going to tell. But i can’t defend this floosy’s re-emergence.
Then again. If you pull on this jersey and can’t work out that at 1-down to Wigan, at home, 4th on the ladder at stake, you need to pull your bloody finger out,, then yeah, keep ordering the Cristal and pasties.
67 minutes of inept passing (mostly backwards for anyone who wasn’t there) is down to the men kicking the ball.
But swapping Defoe for Ade, on the other hand, is inexplicable.
I still want to see the year out. We are fifth and the next month will be far more telling than today: an all-round NO SHOW.
Unfortunately it’s hard not to accept the fact that has been repeated to me loud and clear all night long – that subsitution has effectively turned those souls in the 50/50 AVB camp completely sour, in every station of the ground.
And that’s the last thing that’s needed right now.
COYS.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Tired. And very disappointed.
Apologies.
COYS.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:59 pm
That’s me. Nothing to do with footaball I might add.
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November 3rd, 2012 at 11:51 pm
Oh Bravo chaps!
Come on the Spurs I say !!
Jolly clucking hocky sticks.
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Hartley Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:55 pm
That’s the spirit!
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Hartley Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:56 pm
I mean ‘talking’…..’that’s the spirit talking’…..
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Lush.
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Such a weak and pathetic performance from our beloved spurs team! Wat the hell is AVB doing in playing huddlslow n sigurrdsson? They r soo bad they make me look good! No passion,no tactics, no penertration or flow to our game! I know we will never win the league but atleast try for 90 min! It was soo bad, i wanted to cry! Where is the balance and team formation? I really was shocked today, and to think we have 2 away games next! Gona get stuffed at both games!
Ben
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Soo?
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November 4th, 2012 at 12:09 am
i mean honestly..compare this seasons football to last seasons. we were feared by all at home, and were a pleasure to watch. i loved our style which i like to typify with spurs teams. avb football is dull and negative and it will be mid table at best and i have no pleasure in saying that. levy…you arsehole. how we are gonna regret hr going…
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Hartley Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 12:50 am
We lost to Wigan 1-0 at home under Rubberchops as well…..but we never beat Yanited…
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ausspur Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 2:12 am
we lost to lesser teams yeh…but these were also teams we dominated but couldn’t score against. those were bad days at home…norwich and wigan have outplayed us at home this year..unthinkable last season.
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November 4th, 2012 at 12:42 am
avb is not good enough to be the manager of spurs, i gave him a chance, but i have seen enough, sack him now, and give steffen freund the job, we have been shit against qpr, west brom, and now wigan, we should have piled on the pressure, being the home team and nullified their one big threat, who was their out ball, kone, he ran riot, and was never closed down, what was avb doing, why couldnt he spot this, when we all could, then we go one down, and we have to go for it more, and what does he decide to do, instead of playing with two forwards at home, he takes defoe off, for adebayor, and not dempsey, who was having a mare, but he will come good by the way, along with siggy, they have to gel in to their new team, and that doesnt mean you play them before they are ready, so i dont think they are shit, they just need time.
onto dawson, he makes him captain, and then decides to try and sell him, WHAT???????.
Now the biggy, he is messing around lloris and adebayor, lloris should be number one keeper, and brad number two, and ade should play when fit, its really that simple.
avb is like a kid in charge of a mens football team, hes telling players how to play, when he has never played the game before, and management wise, what has he proved, porto, who run themselves basically, and how could you not win with falcao, and his team mates, who are very good players, and then the real test chelsea, and he flops so bad,but all the blame is put on chelsea players, which i thought could be the case, but now he is at spurs and he is not impressing me at all, his tactics are questionable, his decision making is questionable, his management skills with the players are questionable, he does not inspire, or get the best out of a good squad, who should be more forceful on lesser teams, but we dont, we have good spells, but then we let the other team back in, this is not good enough for me, and many other spurs fans, and the rest will see it too, avb is not good enough.
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ausspur Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 2:13 am
agreed…….
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November 4th, 2012 at 12:50 am
Harry Hotspur, whether you accept it or not you are cornered and trapped now within your own desire to continue to support AVB over Harry Redknapp. Regardless of the dross we have had to watch, regardless of the abysmal replacements for Mod and VDV, regardless of the obvious flat energy emanating from the squad.
I for one suspect that you are in the pocket of the football club (there have been crazier ideas) That this ‘popular’ blog that you make money from all these adverts is propping up the pro-AVB, pro-LEVY, anti-Redknapp stance.
You were anti Redknapp for being a bit of a geezer. Well he brought us pride, won us matches, made us contenders regardless of last seasons slump. We ended up higher than AVB can take us(he wont last the season)
Ive said that since day one.
I hate the crowd booing and I fully appreciate what you are saying here but it smacks of a cover-up for what is really going on sir. The team has in a few matches made to look nothing like our SPURS we know. Im ashamed that our crowd boo but its apparent why. Arsenal supported their club today because deep down they believe in the idealogy of Wenger and their board more than we do.
To think that Arse-wipe fans were looking over their shoulders at us last year when we were smashing it.
Levy is a C@NT and is killing the club.
We are so ordinary it reminds me of the days of Dozzell and when Sheringham couldnt wait to leave.
Bale will feel the same way at this rate.
Ive not read the above comments in depth but im sure i echo many of them as i was on the street today talking to fans walking home from the game and its just miserable. AVB is a shower of shit and there used to be a club there- not a badly run business.
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ausspur Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 2:14 am
agreed!!!!!!!!
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November 4th, 2012 at 1:25 am
Spurs fans have always booed when things have not been going well, this isn’t a new thing. Maybe we have a shorter patience now however I remember fans booing performances for years now, the targeting of Chris Armstrong sticks in my memory bank.
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spurs muaythai Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:41 am
how else do we let the club know chris armstrong was useless? all cheer him being crap every game and then send in letters to the club behind his back?
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stuspurs Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Right or wrong I am merely making a point of saying the booing is not a new thing at the lane. It has existed there for at least the 15 years or so whether due to shit players, crap coaches or bad performances in general.
For the record I do not agree with booing and I still hope AVB can turn it around because we are getting worse not better and after the terrible performances of recent, having a go at the boo-boys again as being factor while we are playing as we are is like whinging about dog shit on the carpet while the house is burning down
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November 4th, 2012 at 1:44 am
Yep{ The performance was inept. I’m afraid AVB has no plan B and playing home games with striker- Don’t deserve anything.
Brad is a good shot stopper but poor distribution.. Gallas is past it now and jury still out on Caulker.
Only man C and the Goons away next – expecting to get beat – hate to admit it – but mid table obscurity beckons this season
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November 4th, 2012 at 1:44 am
This is not about AVB vrs Harry Redknapp
It is to do with AVB.
It is not yet working.
It may not work.
So far how can you be impressed.
Even Harry in his hunches offered this game a draw.
He is in pain.We are in pain.
Im n ot sure what the answer is now but its time for AVB to start looking at one person.Not in the crowd,not on the field but himself.
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November 4th, 2012 at 1:46 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20107360
AVB looks very very down in this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
he looks more than a bit defeated
hes an intelligent man and obviously not a bad human being but just so out of his depth at a premier league club. if he loses the dressing room we are f)cked
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November 4th, 2012 at 1:47 am
P.S
WHAT IS THE MALICIOUS THREAT TO MY COMPUTER THAT MY ANTI VIRUS PROGRAM IS PICKING UP FROM THIS SITE WHEN I POST??????????????
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November 4th, 2012 at 2:38 am
We did not lose to Wigan because of who we had in goal, we lost becase we didn’t score two goals at home against what amounts to a championship side.
Look at the chance/on target/goal ratios this year and despite Defoe getting amongst them, the conversion rate is shocking.
It’s my view that Brad should be steadily being led out to grass as Lloris becomes the first choice league ‘keeper; frankly by now he should be the first name on the page. But…. its not the issue: scoring goals is and we are dependent on Defoe who will always get a few but is not reliable enough to carry the load in the way Allen did back in the dim distant.
I’m not convinced that Ade can do this either tho’ which throws the question up about playing a lone striker when we don’t really have one and selling VdV before we had a viable and proven alternative to a scoring link man.
We’ve had injuries but that’s why you have a squad and DL(in whom I still trust) may have made a strategic error in not securing the key players earlier. As for moving forward, we need to get players off the treatment bench and in my opinion experiment more with our up front options including using the young guns as impact subs.
We got off light with the other results but with big games ahead we could have eased the pressure on ourselves. What’s clear tho’ is that if its not working it needs to change and its not working that well, at least on a consistency basis. AVB should by now have a good idea of who is working out and who is not. He may have limited options in some areas, but I am hoping tha in the Christmas window we bring in the midfielder he wants (Moutinho or whoever) and a decent striker who can convert half chances from inside the box. The existing squad will take care of the rest.
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November 4th, 2012 at 2:59 am
I thought the whole idea of AVB was risky at best. Whatever he did in Portugal is irrelevant, the poor guy is having a go but he is not suited to this league in my opinion. I hated the press on his back and I want him to do well but I feel sorry for him a bit. Today was the beginning of the end I fear.
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:02 am
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November 4th, 2012 at 3:35 am
As shit as we were. Our supporters were worse.
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November 4th, 2012 at 5:55 am
Reading many of the comments on this thread and listening to the boos and disenchantment emanating from a disgruntled WHL yesterday, it is evident that patience as well as perspective amongst many Spurs fans is in painfully short supply. A younger supporter in the bar where I was watching the game, said it was the worst Spurs performance he had ever seen. I smiled ruefully at another veteran supporter like myself and said “not even close!” Unfortunately there is an unrealistic element in modern culture that wants everything instantaneously, nay expects everything as an immediacy and reserves the right evidently to spew vitriol at all and sundry if it is not instantly delivered. Before the start of the game we were 4th in the table, we are still 5th on goal difference, which hardly constitutes a crisis. We are still assimilating the loss of major players from last season, King, Modric and VDV and we have an extensive injury list, Kaboul, Dembele, Parker, BAE and Livermore. We also crucially lost Sandro within 25 minutes or so of the start. None of the above is the fault of AVB. Yes, the overall performance yesterday was poor, but actually we were controlling the game up until the departure of Sandro. That was the catalyst that disrupted any shape and flow we had to the game and exposed the lack of athleticism and slowness of Huddlestone and Dempsey and to a leser degree Sigurdsson, when deployed as our central midfield players. It also left us without all 4 of our defensive midfielders. As regards tactics, did I agree with Defoe’s substitution? No, personally I would have brought off Dempsey, but as Defoe had been wholly ineffective yesterday, it was not exactly a stunning tactical blunder which warranted such a torrent of abuse. Would I have brought on Carroll? No, I would have moved Bale inside, where he could have had more influence on the proceedings and brought on Falque. However these are opinions, not cast iron facts and AVB has the right to bring on and substitute whoever he feels tactically will benefit the team and unless it’s an egregious error I will support his right to do so. The main problem right now is we are light in squad depth in certain areas of the pitch, through a combination of injuries to key players (Kaboul, Dembele, Parker, BAE, now Sandro and until yesterday Adebayor) and the failure of DL to bring in AVB’s transfer targets that would have strengthened those areas (Damiaio, Willian, Moutinho, etc). I actually think given the above factors that AVB is doing a decent job. I like his passion and ambition and can see the virtues of some of his tactical ideas, such as his high-energy, Barcelona-style, pressing game to regain possession when we don’t have the ball. Give him time to get in the players that he needs to fully implement his system and also to get some of our key players back from injury and I think we will be in great shape. My sanguine advice to all Spurs fans, particularly the doom mongerers, nay-sayers, hecklers,and carping critics, is to remember that this is a long-term project, incorporating the building of the new stadium, which ultimately is designed to put us on a parity, financially and footballing-wise, with those teams that are currently above us. So let us retain some perspective of the overall goals and get behind the team, AVB and DL in achieving those ambitions and bringing our club forward to a new era of glory!
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:42 am
” Barcelona-style, pressing game to regain possession when we don’t have the ball”Wigan beat us hands down at that tactic,they also stifled Bale and Lennon with great success.” My sanguine advice to all Spurs fans, particularly the doom mongerers, nay-sayers, hecklers,and carping critics, is to remember that this is a long-term project”TEAM RESULTS IN THE NEGATIVE LEAD TO ONE THING,THE SACK FOR THE MANAGER.Pal, we are entitled to our opinion,THE BALL NOT THE MAN,REMEMBER!
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DessySpur Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Yes PeterfuckingStorey but that was yesterday, move on support your club and the coach too, the idiots around me yesterday are killing these lads confidence, its not their fault they get £60k plus a week its the way it is now.
Sorry to repeat myself but with Dembele and most of who played yesterday they beat Mancheter United 3-2 a month ago! Chill the fuck out and by the way Wigan played bvery well yesterday and last season they beat Arsenal Man U and many other big teams
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November 4th, 2012 at 6:07 am
Totally agree, get off AVB’s back. He is young and talented – great decision Levy. Spurs will be better off in the long-run now, if we are to become the club we want it to be this is the way to go. Milky bar Yid and co you are delusional and embarrassing. I hope my gooner mates never see the waffle you post.
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 8:01 am
IF WE WERE BEATING THE GOONERS MORE OFTEN AND taking their place in top 4,they would not be your mates for long.
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November 4th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Sick of all the arguing. We are one, We are Super Tottenham. Have patience. And stop bleeding arguing.
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November 4th, 2012 at 7:29 am
I think our players respond better to “run around a bit” and “play triffic” than 4-2-3-1 and keep a high line and playing with a single target man who is 4 foot 3. Irrespective of results, our play this year has been crap – very similar to Chelsea under AVB. Under Redknapp we may have had some dodgy results but we dominated every game at home and played some bloody beautiful football. And if you pay your money and are served up crap, you have every right to boo. If you don’t, management might think serving up that crap is acceptable. It is not!
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:45 am
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November 4th, 2012 at 7:33 am
not avb’s fault he was given a multi million pound job, you lot blow it out if its offered to you! its time to get that penny polishing little rat man penfold out and stop an accountant deciding who we sign in future and get a football dude to do it! dempsy and sigardson are not even in the same sport as modric and vdv!! we lost this game in the summer transfer window, let alone playing like shiiiiittttttteeeeeee on the day!
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November 4th, 2012 at 7:45 am
pay out good money in a restaurant for decent nosebag and get served up a load of over cooked boring grub, you moan if you got any balls, or that chef will just keep serving that up. if he cant get the grub right the owner has to give him the tin tak and get the new chef in!
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 7:48 am
OR CLOSE UP SHOP WITH NO CUSTOMERS>
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November 4th, 2012 at 8:45 am
The problems we have and i do go to the lane
No 1 lloris all day,great guy brad but you r no 2
Walker should be dropped,i must admit not a fan,my reasons
Defending is so poor and the space any attacker has is scary
He gets the ball charges down the flank stops goes back and never sees a lennon run in fact he hinders him
Yes he gives 100per cent but so can i does not mean i am any good
Huddelstone is utter crap end of
Falque should start to be given a 15 run he did wellnat norwich and maribor
Sig and dempsey not good enough
As a previous poster wrote the crwd at the lane have been poor.
Since we have had cl football it has gone to some fans head and brought in a different fan glry hunting.
Over the years when we was not playing well the lane turned a loosing position into a winning one,away support much better
I will not blame avb nit because i am a big fan i would love to see the guy do well but if the crowd are going to call fir anyones head next has to be levy not the manager
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calebray Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:47 am
how the hell can anybody call for levys head?
they may be have the right to ask a few pertinent questions but come on, levys head. do me a favour
we have lost one football match mate
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calebray Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 9:48 am
totally agree with everything else though
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Jimmy Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
I am not looking at yesterdays game only but the transfer windows have not been great
Every window we want a top notch forward that we never get.
I think our biggest mistake was getting vdv cheap that was a one off.it will not happen again class costs money but we cannot keep saying sack the manager when he is not working with the players he wants
I remember when we played chelski a few years ago and he made a comment of how good our support was we ave lost that at home it used to be buzzing
November 4th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Excuse me , but someone earlier mentioned that avb is a talented manager, and should be left alone, so where is this talent then, bending on the sidelines, to see if the pitch is alright, wheres the tactics, the plan b, the motivation, to get the players playing properly, and martinez is a good manager, but he is delusional, if he thinks we cant play better than that, it wasnt his team that stopped us from playing our game, it was an inept imposter of a manager, get steffen in now, and give avb the boot, we must act now, with a capable manager in charge of this squad, it can do well, from where we are now 5th, but if we keep avb, i fear the worst, if levy had to replace harry, it had to be with someone as good, or better, not a novice, who is just trying to prove he can do it at a big club, he failed at chelsea, and now he will fail at spurs, oh and one more thing, we want our dark blue shorts back, we are not leeds, we are spurs, white top, dark blue shorts , white socks.
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November 4th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Couldn’t watch the game on Saturday but wouldn’t have had to if I wanted to get an idea of the stupid new-age supporters who had the silver spoon of Champions League football in the mouth making them choke. Checked the score and then thought the AVB OUT brigade would emerge from the rotting woodwork.
Wigan have to be taken a bit more seriously after their home victory over United and away victory over Arsenal AWAY last season.
Did we manage either of those when good old Arry was here???
With all due respect – NO!!
I want to punch a boo-boy in the face next time I’m at a game we draw/lose in the last minute…
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November 4th, 2012 at 9:23 am
so, the mood on here is – we will boo if we like, we will heap criticism when and how we like. And its all ok because we are telling the players and staff that they need to improve.
i am sure they know that already.
in my opinion booing has no place full stop
we have lost a game of football, nobody has been killed. AVB has come round your house and raped your dog.
get over it.
support and shut it.
nobody said we would win the feckin league. We are still good for top four. simmer down.
if you want to judge the set up, the system, the staff and the philosophy – do it at exactly this time next season.
coys and support your local ginger.
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Mark Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
If someone raped your dog or killed someone, all you’d do is boo? Don’t believe it. Hardly the same thing at all. You are getting your knickers in a twist over nothing.
Hardly anyone is calling for AVB’s head.
We do not look good for top four, 5th or 6th at best at the moment until we buy some midfield creativity. If Dembele were to be out for a while that would be the end of us as potential top 4, he is that important.
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November 4th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Several things jump out, not least your belief that free speach must be surpressed and only whispered in dark corners and alleys away from the glare of a game.
Our win over United and league position paper over cracks, yes agree. Without Dembele we have no midfield, Sigurdsson shows no signs of having any creative ability and Dempsey ia an average PL player. We need to purchase a creative talent to play behind the front man. Defoe for the first game attacked the 6 yard box for Bale’s crosses instead of pulling back 12 yards out and watching the ball flash across. Perhaps he is learning.
The Arsenal fans were away and it was not a stadium full of them, but then it is also irrelevant what other fans do as that doesn’t mean they are right. Besides they were singing during the game not at the half time break. During the game fans should sing I agree but an interval is different.
If it is only at half time and full time then the crowd should give their opinion of the performance, good or bad. This we mustn’t upset the sensibilities of the overpaid primo donas is laughable. You think they perform poorly because of a few boos at half time, rubbish.
Should a crowd be forced to laugh at a comedians joke which they don’t find funny? Because no laughing, heckling is the same concept as booing at half and full time, you are giving an opinion.
You are not allowed to voice an opinion unless it is a positive one is effectively your message. I understand your sentiment, but that is for the management, the coaching staff. During the play back them to the hilt yes, the break, give the management your opinion.
Without any negativity from supporters directly to the players there is potential for them not to perform to their best, to become lazy, knowing the paying public won’t complain. The myriad of ways you mention do not communicate directly with the players, nor at the immediate time. I doubt they take much notice either, supporters can’t skype players at half time.
Are you seriously suggesting that players are incapable of responding to a half time booing by coming out and performing better in the second half? It would make no difference when they are poor if the fans cheered at half time to their second half performance. Any one with any pride should respond, sometimes people need a kick up the backside, in a positive way and come out for the second half with a determination to show everyone it matters to them.
Levy is by miles the best Chairman we have had in donkeys years, we are in the top 5 in the country because of him, not in spite of him. He embarked on a journey, we are in transition as part of that.
We have taken a step back from last year, scoring is no longer the priority, keeping the ball and taking it slow is. We don’t use the tools we have, we don’t get Bale and Lennon running. Our midfield plays in a flat line in the last third so there is no creative midfield ball to make unless someone is to make a move. We are not Spain or Barcelona, we simply don’t have the players with enough ability to make the off the ball movement thse players do.
January can’t come quickly enough.
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November 4th, 2012 at 9:52 am
i cannot believe people are calling for avb to be sacked.
how the fuck is that going to help
who the fuck do you support
you make me fucking sick
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tim Reply:
November 4th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
The reason he should get the sack, is because he never should have got it in the first place, chelsea were right because their players sussed him out, and ours are doing the same, they dont believe in this guy, or his methods, watch a replay of some of our matches, they dont look on the same wavelength, puzzled looks everywhere, i have been hearing of discontent in the camp, and thought its just the usual paper talk, but now i can see on the pitch, they dont want this guy managing them, our players are doing what chelsea players did, THEY WANT HIM OUT.
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November 4th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Heres a scenario, we all know by now, its all about player power now, they have the last word, if there is discontent in the camp, and some players are trying to get him out, as chelsea players did, then what do we do, get rid of some of our very good players, possibly half the team or more, or one guy, i know which makes more sense, change a team, or a manager trying to prove himself at our cost, the sensible answer is one guy, and get the players a manager they can respect, its really that simple, kyle walker could be a prime example, they had pictures in the papers of avb talking to the players, and kyles face, said what the hell is this guy on about, and look at his form under avb, coincidence, ????????.
Now here are the other ones been rumoured, adebayor-unhappy, lloris our should be no1 keeper-unhappy, dawson-unhappy, and there are rumours of more talk behind the scenes, seriously if players want a manager out, they will get him out, chelsea , and other clubs players have shown this to be true, its nothing new, the players have to believe in the person leading them, the man, do our players seriously look like they have busted a gut out there, no they dont, yes i know its wrong for players to play bad to get rid of their manager, but it goes on all the time, and levy will be put in a situation, good players looking to leave, or getting rid of the players problem, the manager.
we all know the right answer dont we.
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November 4th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I cant believe some clown compared Spurs to a restaurant, speaks a lot for the morons views I have just read.
By the way do you know how stupid you looked in the Park Lane yesterday?? I was ashamed to be near some of them
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November 4th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
I agree that our home support is absolute crap compared to the away support, and it shows in the results. home fans booing because Defoe was invisible the entire game so AVB brings on Ade.
Absolutely stupid reaction!
Dembele out, Walkers confidence shot after our supposed fans are so disrespectful he quits twitter. other PLAYERS need to OWN it, he put out a reasonable squad considering injuries, where was bale? or lennon? or defoe? they were invisible, anyone that thinks a manager can wave a magical wand and inspire players has never played the game.
The players have to own it.
And remember harry lost to wigan 1-0 too!
Freezal the keeper who fails to use his hands to any goos effect again couldn’t keep a clean sheet. he is absolutely terrible on set pieces, look at the goals he has let in this season alone. Lloris would make all the saves Freezal did AND be better on set pieces.
Home fans are embarrassing booing AVB its 10 games in and we are in 5th and only by GD. Perhaps if Defoe wasn’t so ball greedy or sporadic we would have beaten other teams by more (like against Southampton, Norwich, West Brom, Newcastle).
Its not like Levy let him buy the players he wanted (moutinho, willian). we have no creativity in midfield without dembele, I guess another manager would wave a magic wand and just make it happen? absolute rubbish.
I think we will win silverware this year and still finish top 4, be supportive!
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November 4th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
“Is the man in Canada an idiot?”
I think, personally, the answer should be yes.
I have, after all, been a Spurs fan since Greaves and Mackay’s time.
I don’t like the booing, but maybe this article will convince you that booing is at least better than what goes on in the glitzy show bizz arenas over here:
http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/article/1282026–european-sports-fans-still-own-the-game-experience
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November 5th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Getting a bit board with saying it now… You just can’t compare Arsenal’s away support at Utd with our home support watching our worst performance of the season against Wigan. They are totally different circumstances, situations in every way.
Do you honestly think the Woolwich sing when playing like
road-kill and losing to Wigan 0-1 at home? No they wouldn’t now stop comparing the two and bloody leave it alone… Total pants.
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