Posted on Thursday, 22nd November 2012 by Harry Hotspur
Good morning.
A grim start to proceedings then as we woke to the news that the inherently racist Lazio Ultras greeted Tottenham fans in the Drunken Ship public house Rome at about 0130hrs this morning in the traditional manner; battering and cutting them.
100 armed Ultras attacked leaving a current count of seven Spurs fans wounded and two stabbed.
The Italians baring Lazio colours wielded baseball bats, knuckledusters and knives. Some wore helmets. The police and fire service attended the scene and whilst arrests were made, many of the cowards involved fled. Italian media suggests that CCTV fotage of Campo de ‘Fiori is being examined.
To be honest I’d demand the game to be called off to emphasise to the powers that be that this sort of thing won’t be tolerated. I didn’t think my contempt for UEFA could increase but no, this has don’t it. There is too much money in the competition for excuses anymore. Fans must be protected.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 11:42 am
Absolutely outrageous, these scumbags are evil, and Lazio need banning from the competition, and we should be given 3 points. Not good, not good at all.
oh yes. 1st
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Eyeball Paul aka The Eyeballer Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:55 am
Not funny today sid…sorry.
God help the fellow spurs fan who has spilled alot of blood last night. Get well soon, mate
Lazio should be kicked out of the competition – there is no place for such violence in society, nevermind under the guise of being ‘football supporters’.
Lazio Bastards.
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Urbane Sturgeon Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
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The trouble with punishing a club for lawbreaking outside the stadium is that what if the aggressors in lazio colours were actually antisemitic roma fans combining bigoted violence & ruining their rivals’ cup run at the same time.
Unfortunately life is rarely that simple.
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munso Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Spot on, its just been on SSN, two Roma fans charged with attempted murder
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November 22nd, 2012 at 11:52 am
coys
the game must go on just because a few morons are ruining it.
they will get their commupance with a ban or something after the dust settles
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Smog Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 12:40 pm
“they will get their commupance with a ban or something after the dust settles”
Really? What is that based on? UEFA’s strong record of action against this sort of thing?
The sad thing is mate there will be no commupance. There never is and that is the issue.
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CptCaveman Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Agreed Smog! No, the game shouldn’t go on…the mornons would be winning if it did! The game should be cancelled and points awarded to us or at worst played back in England. Really, Lazio should be banned as fines are just a waste of time…the club MUST be held accountable and the racists must learn that they are not welcome.
In the reality, UEFA will do nothing apart from blaming a few Spurs fans for starting it! Lazio will get a slightly bigger fine then the one handed to Spurs for just being there.
It makes my blood boil!
I hope the fans make a full and speedy recovery!
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November 22nd, 2012 at 11:53 am
Lazio should be thrown out of all European competition for the next 5 years and be given a fine that runs into the millions not paltry thousands. Absolutely disgraceful and Platini ought to get his head out of his arse and do something right by the English clubs he so obviously hates.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 11:57 am
That picture of DiCanio is chilling. He is a bit of an enigma that bloke.
Fascism has to be stamped out now.It has no place in football stadiums or within democracy.
Whether is is UEFA,FIFA or Governments,it should be addressed sooner rather than later
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November 22nd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
calling off the game, punishing lazio and awarding spurs the points may seem a good idea in theory, but it may leave the fans out there in more danger.
I was tipped off about this a few weeks ago by a west ham friend, who says they have a bit of a connection and told a load of west ham in liverpool st they were going to be knifing spurs fans when they came over.
I dont think the violence is over quite yet. I expect some spurs will start going after revenge today…
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November 22nd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Herbert was just waiting for something like this.
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4 Ever Hopeful Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Actually what Herbert and people like the comedy stooge from Cheatski have done is to divert attention and focus from the real and quite grave issues of violence and personal abuse.
Administratively the Y-word issue is seen as an easier fix. Nobody gets stabbed, beaten up or specifically abused by it (ironically many enjoy it’s Call to Arms nature as well described by somebody yesterday) but nevertheless the administrators and the like say why not flex their muscles. It is easy. Like pushing a protestor to the floor.
These people would be better employed channeling their efforts into forcing the relevant authorities to withdraw any team which cannot safeguard supporters in AND around the ground.
Re-inforce it in this case by calling for the FA to ban any signing of foreign players, managers or coaches from countries where fascist, racist or violent behaviour is proven.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Democracy has given the fans a place to put their anger.It is tribalism in football stadiums and cheering for your club. The warriors themselves were put on the field with rules.
When it goes beyond that,it has to be dealt with.
Innocent fans going over and having a few pints before or after a game is not reason for barbaric responses by these fascists.
For me its for the Italian authorities to sort this out and make sure the away fans are safe while the game goes on.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Cancel the match. Kick them out. Relegate them to the lowest tier of Italian football. Make the Italian Ambassador go to the Foreign Office to be told in no uncertain terms that inaction over these murderous Neo-Blackshirts will not be tolerated. As I said on the previous blog, full refunds, tickets, travelling costs, long term psychological damage from the attacks, all costs to be met by this club which does nothing to curtail the abominable behaviour of these murderous thugs. Status quo is not an option.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
What nazi c*nts,
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LosLorenzo Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Godwin lives!
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November 22nd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
It’s season in season out with the same culprit clubs involved…if this was an English club it would have been banned years ago. The institutional racism that UEFA & FIFA display towards the English only feeds these moronic fascists as they know they/their clubs will get away with a slap on the wrists. I agree cancelling and abandoning matches and awarding the points to the opposition is the best short term measure then ban the clubs for a minimum of two seasons.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Not funny at all of course but you can’t hold Lazio responsible for incidents that happen outside their stadium. That doesn’t hold up either legally or morally.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
True dat
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PapaSpurs Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 12:40 pm
I doubt it. Legally I imagine the competition is by invitation, so they’d be fine to kick them out. And you don’t think that morally you can hold a club responsible for it’s fascist fans attempting to murder football supporters?
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Hot_Spur Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Do you think you should be held responsible for something that happens outside the boundaries of your property? Also, has it been proved that they are in fact Lazio supporters and not just thugs using football as an excuse? Or even fans of a rival club trying to get Lazio into trouble?
SpurredoninDubblin Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:27 pm
@papa.
Why can’t Lazio be held responsible for their fans? Other clubs are held responsible for their fans whether they are racists or just hooligans.
Recalling the game at WHL, surely the irony was not lost, that this was a team with Black players, and every time Lennon got the ball, they started to spout their racist filth.
Racism has made the headlines quite a bit in football recently, with players quick (and quite rightly too) to claim they have been racially abused, but when their own fans are abusing the opposition, they keep quiet about that. There are times when I think that these are the sort of people who would only scream rape, after the cheque has bounced.
PapaSpurs Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Ca’t reply to your reply so I’m replying here. This is not about me or my property and there is a world of difference. People are being murdered for fuck’s sake – It doesn’t matter if it is other fans or just thugs causing the problem, if you ban one club then they will pay attention and attempt to sort it out even it it’s not their fans, if it happens again you ban the country (like they did to us). It is a much wider problem across the whole of Italian football (and society to some extent) and taking what you may consider unfair action WILL SAVE LIVES. BTW, I love visiting Italy and have nothing against them as a nation, but remember we’re only 60 odd years on from Mussolini and his descendants still attend Lazio games.
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Hot_Spur Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
OH, so lets use Lazio to make an example of even though it didn’t happen in their stadium, that’s fair and just isn’t it. As for Mussolini, they strung him up, really loved him didn’t they.
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PapaSpurs Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:27 pm
So you would prefer the continuation of murders around football games in Italy to what seems like a slightly harsh, unfair punishment?
Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
@H-S, Sorry mate, they only hung him when it all went Pete Tong-before that Il Duchebag, was the messiah, much like all dictators-it’s how they get to power in the first place-ready made-quick fix solutions-let’s not forget eh?
SpurredoninDubblin Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:30 pm
@Hot_spur
The racist chanting against Lennon did not take part in their stadium either, so would you think they were hard done by when UEFA told them to put a few quid in the poorbox?
ELELEL Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:21 pm
It’s a police issue. Quite simple, if it happens in the ground it’s a club issue – and a police one if actual crimes take place. But let’s say a football fan watches a game and goes home and murders his wife. Extreme example but same applies – not in the club’s jurisdiction.
I agree that Italian football has major issues. So what should be happening is that UEFA and the other bodies should be slamming them extremely hard on anything which does fall into their authority.
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Italian football should be banned regardless of this incident anyway-Firstly because of the Ultra’s, secondly because of the continued racism, thirdly because of the corruption, and lastly because it’s not safe for any fans visiting the country to watch games without assaults happening on a regular basis-if this was an isolated incident, you’d have a point-it’s not and everything I’ve mentioned are civil acts not solely football related.
ELELEL Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:07 pm
My only point was in agreement with Hot spur that crimes outside a football ground and separate from matches are police issues. As I said, there are lots of issues with Italian football, and more needs to be done, won’t argue with that. But it’s a separate argument to the simple point of law.
Hot_Spur Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:34 pm
PapaSpurs – Of course I wouldn’t want murders to continue but it has to be dealt with in the right way and by the RIGHT authorities which in this case is the police, NOT football organizations. Inside stadiums is a different matter, the streets are the police responsibility.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 12:28 pm
I really want to take back my comment (during the draw) about the UEFA cup being a tour of Europe’s most stabby hotspots now. It’s so fucking obvious UEFA. It happens EVERY FUCKING YEAR!
I expect fuck all to be done, again. Racism and attempted murder are fine as long as they get their TV money.
My best wishes go to those out there, especially the victims.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 12:29 pm
The thing is cancelling of games and points awarded is a tactic to control the situation and I dont totally disagree with it but many legitimate fans suffer for the antics of a few in this case and may just find some sympathizers in the good crowd strengthening their cause.
There is a fine line there.
Yes stamp it out in any case.
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Ronnie, they cancelled their own league fixtures over this-why can’t UEFA do the same and ban all Italian clubs until they sort themselves out?
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Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Its an interesting point.I wonder how this would be seen by the Italian people in general?
In England rule of democratic look would take precedence over the people but in Italy?IM not sure.
They may see it as an attack against Italy itself.
When Italy bans games themselves thats different.
Im not saying they shouldnt ban them,Im not sure really if that would be good
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Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
democratic ‘law’
SpurredoninDubblin Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
@ Ronnie 12.29.
There is a precedent for this. We were banned from taking our Uefa cup place because of Heysel.
Of course that was in a time when hooliganism was rife, and 98% of the fans had nothing to do with it. Nevertheless, this might mean that there were 800 mindless yobs marauding in a High St near you, and they would attract more media coverage than the game itself.
Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Really its an issue for football authorities to start and if it isnt resolved for the governments.
In this particular case I think it should go on with some enlightenment for all the fans at the game,protection from violence as it happened away from the ground.
But obviously with some serious dealing with all the way around.
and we pray for the boy that got knifed
November 22nd, 2012 at 12:31 pm
UEFA will do nothing. Maybe a paltry fine. Pathetic.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
I was at the home game and heard the racist chants from the dinosaurs division of Lazio supporters. The FA, let alone FIFA need to wake up especially after the Danny Rose business a few weeks back. It is an absolute disgrace and from one fan who was actually at the Feyenoord game all those years ago when these riots were in their infancy, I would demand action. As OrpSpur saya, if it was an English club they would have the book chucked at them. Who runs the FA these days? When will they get off their backsides and do something?!
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SpurredoninDubblin Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Normally, I wouldn’t dispute that idea, but I have a bad feeling about tonight, especially if we go ahead of them.
It was suggested years ago after a Spain-England game, that players be taken off the pitch if there were racist chants, with the ref having the ultimate sanction to abandon the game and award it to the victims 3-0 if it continued. Uefa were supposed to be considering this, but the suspicion is that they “bottled it”, worrying about the possibility of a riot. So what., Just keep stepping up the penalties I say. And eventually, when they are playing in Serie Z, they will get the message.
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77spur Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:16 pm
i think theres a barely vailed attitude in europe that england deserve these kind of incidents as retribution for the past, the bias is unquestionable and its disgusting.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
This happens EVERYTIME. It is well documented and has been going on for over 2 decades and still it happens. Why is nothing being done? We should not play the game in protest. Something has to be done about this and it should be us to make the first move. What happens if there is further voilence tonight?
For thise that say that the “few” ruin it for the rest well I’d say go a google Lazio Ultras…..it is far from a few who participate.
This is the same pub that Middlesborough fans were attacked and stabbed in 2006!!! Final note: It took the Italian Police 30 mins to arrive……SCANDAL!
If you wish to find out more on this follow John Foot @footymac.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
English clubs were banned from Europe and the hooligan culture went with it.
In recent years Italians have been guilty of match fixing, racism and repeated violence but until all of their clubs are banned for a decent amount of time nothing will change.
I just hope those injured get better soon but I’ll be amazed if UEFA take action that’s relative to the crime.
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PapaSpurs Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Banning had much less to do with football hooliganism being greatly reduced in the UK than CCTV, better policing and ecstasy. Unfortunately, in Italy, many clubs are essentially run by their ‘Ultras’ who are incredibly powerful (have even taken a percentage of players wages, believe it or not.) CCTV everywhere, doubling (at least) of prices, a police force who are not corrupt / paid by / part of the ultras and UEFA growing a pair is the only way forward.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
UEFA and FIFA cannot take action against Lazio for something that happened outside their stadium. It happened in the street/pub, therefore it’s a civil/police matter, not technically a football matter. Does anybody here think they should be held responsible for something that happens outside the boundaries of their property?
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LosLorenzo Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 12:51 pm
UEFA can do whatever they damn well please with regard to their own competition. The fact that it is ALSO a police matter is neither here nor there.
The problem is that what “they damn well please” is to turn a blind eye and pretend like it’s not their responsibility.
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jolsgonemental Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Yes. UEFA and FIFA have responsibility to football to ensure supporters are safe when going to see a match.
If the fans of a club make the local area a dangerous place for opposing fans, then they shouldnt be hosting matches.
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Hot_Spur Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
“UEFA and FIFA have responsibility to football to ensure supporters are safe when going to see a match.” Inside stadiums yes but the streets are the Police responsibility to keep safe, not football organizations.
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LosLorenzo Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Nobody is suggesting that Lazio be tasked with policing the streets, or prosecuting these particular fans. THAT is obviously for the police to deal with.
With Lazio fans, though, this is hardly the first time. The club clearly have a widespread issue with the behaviour of their fans. Although they may not be responsible for the behaviour of individual fans outside of stadium, they are certainly in the best position to do something about the problem.
Lazio could hand out lifetime matchday bans to fans found to be participating in this kind of activity, inside or outside the stadium. They are certainly in a better position to reason with these fans than anyone else (police, UEFA, or whoever).
So you have a bunch of people identifying themselves as Lazio fans committing crimes. The club are not responsible for prosecutions and arrests. But if they owned a shred of decency, they most certainly should feel a responsibility to proactively avoid future incidents.
So why don’t they? Because there is no incentive for them to do so. Worst case (based on historical evidence, anyway), they might get a slap on the wrist from UEFA of a few thousand EUR. That’s a lot cheaper than genuinely trying to fix this problem, and doesn’t risk alienating their most rabidly racist ultras.
As for FIFA and UEFA not being responsible… According to the letter of the law, no they have no formal responsibility to deal with a case such as this. But formal responsibility and moral responsibility are two very different things. If the fact that UEFA earns a huge profit from these competitions doesn’t give them some moral responsibility for their direct consequences, then I don’t know what…
Hot_Spur Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:54 pm
LosLorenzo – yes you make some very valid points, Lazio could try to help, no denying that. My original post was largely in response to all those saying UEFA or FIFA as well as Lazio are responsible, but the fact is that they are no responsible. Doesn’t mean they can’t try to help though as you say.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:42 pm
Didn’t UEFA blanket ban all English clubs for 5 seasons? That excluded the likes of Watford, Coventry and some others Oxford Utd, I think…teams without any previous for taking part in a competition they’d rightfully earned, but were excluded from by the actions of others-why not blanket ban Italian clubs-there is a precedent
PapaSpurs Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Whoever said that media hungry, prick of a lawyer would be all over this couldn’t be more right…and here’s his ammo: http://www.ansa.it/web/notizie/rubriche/english/2012/11/22/Soccer-Anti-Semitism-may-have-been-behind-Spurs-fans-attack_7838777.html?
It’ll be our fault for the Yid chants.
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CptCaveman Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:36 pm
There seems to be an echo in here?!
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November 22nd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
As wrong as it is, I don’t see how Lazio could do anything about it. I’d have thought that the responsibility would be the italian police.
If it happens in the stadium, kick them (lazio) out and ban them for years, but someone wearing a lazio shirt who stabs someone in a pub, not really lazio’s responsibility.
Having said that, rome / italy can be quite facist and lazio taking some form of positive action would be good, but never going to happen.
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LosLorenzo Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Lazio can ban whoever they want from their stadium, for whatever reasons they want (pretty much; ironically, they probably couldn’t ban someone for being a black lawyer, even under Italian law).
These hundred or so thugs, all in Lazio gear, attacking fans of the team who are going to play against Lazio tonight – whether the club like it or not, these people were “representing” the club.
So yeah, I think it would be completey reasonable to give a lifetime ban from Lazio games to all of the ultras arrested by the police, and any others proven to have taken part based on CCTV, etc.
But Lazio have no reason whatsoever to hand out these bans, because they have come to expect UEFA to act dumb and turn a blind eye to all this unpleasantness.
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SpurredoninDubblin Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Just to add to what you have said, the analogy is with a publican who lets his customers drink until they are incapable, and then waves them off as they drive home. Publicans have suffered loss of license for this.
Can you imagine if we were chanting “Nigger” every time a black player touched a ball, what the FA might do. This would no doubt lead to squads of undercover stewards sitting in the stands ready to grab the offenders.
The real issue is not that it happened outside the ground, but that Lazio does nothing to stop related behaviour in their own ground.
It is effectively a parental matter. If any of us were parents, how many would claim when their kids were nicked for hooliganism, that it is nothing to do with us because it happened outside our home? The parents are expected to set an example.
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LosLorenzo Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
word
Alspur Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Sorry, Los – if that chain of thought were taken to its logical conclusion, next month you could expect to see 100 neanderthal United fans dressed in City colours, waiting to smash up City’s next European opponents, just to get them chucked out of European competition…
Just using United / City as an example, of course.
This one is for the police.
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LosLorenzo Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:28 am
“lifetime ban [...] ultras arrested by the police”
Yes, leave the policing to the police. But once they and the courts have done their jobs, ban the f*ckers who are found guilty. And if they turn out to be Roma fans pretending to be Lazio fans, then Roma should ban them.
The clubs most certainly can play a big role.
Alspur Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:33 am
Definitely agree with that…
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
crikey sounds rough,not as if we don’t know about ultras though,they have strong connections with the club from the books i’ve read,but we know there are dangerous fans all over europe,i don’t think football stops because of thugs what about the 98% that aren’t and enjoy the sport
why isn’t arry managing the chavs by the way?
anyone back yet dembele ? COYS
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Hot_Spur Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Dembele is back but will not play tonight, he starts at the weekend. Parker also back in training, should be ready for Liverpool game.
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kojac Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:33 pm
well that is good,there is light
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Hot_Spur Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Not sure Parker will get back in the team easily though, the way Sandro has been playing, but we certainly need Dembele back.
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
The trouble with it merely being a police matter depends on the will to respond to a situation like this in Italy. How many “Ultras” are also serving officers of the Carabinieri? Institutional racism in our police force is not a new thing and I can remember quite vividly police officers on anti racist demos drawing “NF” signs on the condensation from inside their van windows. I really hope I’m wrong on this, but as no action has been taken on the racists who were clearly inside our ground in the first leg, I won’t hold my breath on any action being taken on the cowards who attacked our fans outside the ground in a foreign country.
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Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Then I would say that the problem in the UK police because if we cant count on them who can we count on????
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November 22nd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
I thought Italians were supposed to be fashionable? Hooliganism went out over here around 25 years ago, sort of explains why it’s so popular in Easter Europe right now….
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Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:23 pm
faschionable
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Hartley Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
…..Eastern……
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ELELEL Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Fashionable? You mean like this guy:
http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/7/74/Guido.jpg
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November 22nd, 2012 at 2:08 pm
This is not even mentioned on UEFA.com!
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ric Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 2:18 pm
And not on S.S Nazios homepage either!
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November 22nd, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Just want to say that I am very encouraged by our great fans here on this site.
Thanks.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Would do us a big favour if the game was called off tonight as it saves our starting eleven being knackered for Sunday’s game.
Having said that, cannot see the game being cancelled unless our supporters injuries are life threatening and fingers crossed that is not the case.
Thought this type of crap died out years ago.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Not over there it hasn’t.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 3:10 pm
These “ultras” whatever that means are fucking cowards, they always attack normal unsuspecting fans who are there for the football. Pissy little shitehawks. Yes they should kick Lazio out. Yes they should give us the points. But, what? a £32000 fine? probably. God bless the injured victims. YID ARMY.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 3:14 pm
To be fair, after the game at white hart lane, lazio fans got battered. No knives but a few sore heads after what I saw. No knives tho and alot of it was down to the fans behaviour at the lane. Helmets? Now you know why…
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77spur Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:19 pm
its a different though init? a scrap in the street to an organised blitz on a unsuspecting pub full of tourists and football fans.
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77spur Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Thats s’posed to be A BIT DIFFERENT… and i ended up sounding italian.
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Stupot Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Oh well. lets just say its all a bit scary. They obviously don’t grasp the implications of thier actions. In my mind a fight is a fight. A knife is a knife. The world has changed. Morals have changed and respect is served through deathly violence. All I can say is, if this has affected the Spurs performance, in which it obviously will, WHO WILL GET THE BLAME IF WE DO NOT QUALIFY….OUR AVB. Really starting to warm to our ginger master. COYS, AND ALL OUR THOUGHTS TO THE RESPECTIVE FAMILIES AFFECTED. x
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Cowardly fukin itis always been the same. Stab n run merchants with there faces covered . If spurs get there own back and start to get even I wouldn’t put it past the cowardly scum to change sides to whoever looks like winning
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November 22nd, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Lazio Chairman Claudio Lotito said “Lazio fans have nothing to do with what happened last night.”
Really? Is that all you can do?
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ELELEL Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Pretty typical. And disgraceful. Why is it that people in positions of responsibility are so commonly responsibility shirking cnuts?
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Bruxie Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 3:46 pm
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2915/europa-league/2012/11/22/3548035/-
Just read it.
That’s what you’re up against. Head in a bucket.
Still, he’s probably following the lead set by Berlusconi.
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Hmmm I assume that the racism exhibited by the away fans in the first leg was nothing to do with Lazio fans either. Merely random fans from Italy who just happened to turn up and have an ideological dislike of black players and a tendency to make monkey noises?
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November 22nd, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Spurs fan and eye witness on talkshite now saying he watched 2 of the 3 police cars move out of the square minutes before it kicked off, and the 3rd one just after. Sounds pretty suspect.
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Sounds about right, over the years I’ve traveled quite a lot to watch Spurs in Europe, and from getting hospitalized in Rotterdam to getting banged up in Bucharest, the worse I’ve witnessed is easily the game in Seville a while back-and that was 100% down to and caused by the police-I wouldn’t trust either the Spanish or Italian police as far as I could lob a baton back at them.
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Alspur Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
I was there – that was just the police out to batter Spurs fans, no Seville fans were involved as far as I recall…
The Spanish people were a complete disgrace, that evening… Spurs fans bloodied for singing and standing (instead of cowering meekly??)
Sickening.
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Thing was Alspur is we were there for a couple of day before the game-and had a really good time with the locals-mind you, we’re not piss-heads and a pretty respectful of other cultures, but during the game-where the hell that came from God only knew?
Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:03 pm
I assume you meant the Spanish Police-not the people BTW?
Alspur Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:51 am
Apologies, Essex – that was a mistype: I did mean the police (of course…)
Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Nazis or Fascists in police uniforms is nothing new. We have had our fair share as well. Corruption? Hillsborough screams out not only for justice or retribution but also a complete change of direction for our police forces when it comes to tackling institutional racism or endemic corruption, which has clearly failed over the last 20 years. If we have such a stigma in dealing with corruption in the police in this country I absolutely shudder to think how it will ever be dealt with in Rome. Justice for our fans? I would not at all be surprised if the Italian authorities accused our fans of inflaming the situation by drinking their cappuccinos from the wrong side of the cup.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 4:28 pm
I don’t really understand the logic but it is a macho thing for them to stab opposing supporters in the buttocks apparently.
Believe Man U supporters suffered similar attacks in Italy quite recently.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
All I hope is that the injuries are not serious-and that the trouble doesn’t escalate.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 5:35 pm
EPL has gotten so popular in the States. It would be a shame for this to continue. Americans don’t get the nuances between clubs and it is hard for them to see the nationalistic issues like last night.
Lazio should be responsible for their fans. The game should go on , even with 10000 carabineri in the stands. And Spurs should win. The best revenge.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Strong side selected tonight, hope it does not come back to bite us for Sunday’s game.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 5:48 pm
Tottenham: Lloris, Walker, Caulker, Vertonghen, Naughton, Sigurdsson, Sandro, Carroll, Bale, Dempsey, Adebayor.
Subs: Cudicini, Huddlestone, Lennon, Defoe, Dembele, Dawson, Livermore.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Dempsey has gotten a (deserved) shoeing lately, but I think he’ll do a lot better starting with Ade than with JD. Clint needs a foil to play off of.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
coys,so siggy out right is it
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November 22nd, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Let’s Ave these Ultra shite slags
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November 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
So the bogus offsides begin.
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kojac Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:08 pm
that’s why linesman are just out of touch now in a major sport,people say it should stay but they guess every decision,it’s a pointless system
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November 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 pm
whats that the third goal platini has disallowed for us
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david Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Joke really, but what a fantastic pass from Carroll to put Bale in on goal.
Surprised the ref did not book Bale for playing on!
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kojac Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:21 pm
yeah ruined a moment for carrol
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November 22nd, 2012 at 6:20 pm
kojac
hope i don’t score
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
I loved him Baby
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November 22nd, 2012 at 6:24 pm
can we ever score
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November 22nd, 2012 at 6:33 pm
we appear to have comedy fullbacks…
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November 22nd, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Hugo is playing well. Good distribution.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 6:37 pm
Every time the ball goes anywhere near D****** we seem to end up losing possession. He’s managing to make me feel quite nostalgic about *****.
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`rich g Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:39 pm
American PSB
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daytripper11 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:41 pm
I was just thinking the same thing about Sigs. He is the worst player I have seen in a Spurs jersey since JJ in his prime.
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:41 pm
…and yet again. Thankfully Lloris comes to the rescue.
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kojac Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:41 pm
he is looking like a complete useless c*nt,we know he isn’t really but the guy looks totally lost
come on walker and good game from Lloris
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November 22nd, 2012 at 6:43 pm
the annoying things is we should be 1-0 up and won the home game 2-0,all good goals disallowed because of why,i’m not too sure in this day and age
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:58 pm
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November 22nd, 2012 at 6:43 pm
It’s a good job we have a good keeper, cos our defence is bollocks.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 6:46 pm
dempsey walker sigurdson ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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ELELEL Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Sig doesn’t look so bad tonight. Dempsey save as it ever was though.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 6:54 pm
dempsey cannot handle being the creative,our attack in the middle is supposed to come through him,it’s not good enough and has been going on too long now
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 6:56 pm
And he looks such a miserable sh*te as well.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Siggs has made a couple of decent crosses but he is too slow to play right wing.
The longer the half went on, the slower our play and the more static our players.
Really not sure what to do about Dempsey.
If the game continues in the same vein, think we will lose.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Get him down to Argos they are looking for Christmas staff.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Dempsey off and Dembele on in the same position. I would even put Lennon on in Dempsey’s position and leave The Sig wide. Gotta be better that D******.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Dembele could probably do with a blow out before the weekend, so I’d expect to see him come on for the last half hour or so.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 7:09 pm
In all seriousness, does anyone know what position Dempsey played for Fulham and how he fitted into their team and style of play?
He scored plenty of goals for them so must have something about him.
Are we asking him to do stuff he has never had to do before and is incapable of ?
Hard to believe he is not better than he is looking for us at the moment.
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Alspur Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:17 pm
He played a few positions for them – mainly, as one of a MF three, but also as a widish player in a forward 3… and as a striker…
So, he should understand the system we’ve been playing, you’d think…
All very strange…
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seattlespursguy Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:18 pm
The VDV role. Run around a bit; get knock downs; no defensive responsibility, etc.
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david Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Thanks guys, just think he must be better than he looks.
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daytripper11 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:24 pm
This is the worst comment you have ever made, you are usually spot on.
He never played that role in Fulham. He was either the sole striker or the left mid. He didn’t have mids and defenders hoofing the ball to him there. His defending was outstanding when he played out on the left.
Just like Defoe, and every other quality attacker, he needs the ball played to his feet. Our CMs are completely incapable of doing that.
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david Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
You’re confusimg me now!
seattlespursguy Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Respectfully disagree. It didn’t matter where he was listed as playing, at Fulham he deployed as left-mid, right mid, advanced central mid, and striker, but he always morphed into a free central player. He specialized in late runs into the box where he was often unmarked.
John Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:26 pm
He scored his goals in Bale’s position
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November 22nd, 2012 at 7:12 pm
10 minutes in and 6 turnovers for Sigs already. Quality.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 7:24 pm
Like the subs.
Doris earning his money tonight.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Every Doris has his Day.
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david Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:32 pm
That is worth a ban.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 7:24 pm
This high line is really wobbly and is giving me the willies
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david Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Could be good, could be bad. Do you like the willies ?
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ELELEL Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:30 pm
I’m calling it bad this time.
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david Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Nice one!
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:25 pm
We are S**T
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Gazza is warming up…..
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david Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:39 pm
4 pints so far.
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MIKE T Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:17 pm
hahahaha
Spurstacus Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Gazza looks like he has been embalmed.
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:05 pm
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:22 pm
wadda mean looks like?
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:26 pm
If nothing else this evening should settle the Lloris/Friedel debate once and for all.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 7:34 pm
I can’t remember a spurs team playing this poorly for a while, we are clueless and classless
get dembele on, maybe we’ll play a bit
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david Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:37 pm
This is doing wonders for my insomnia.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:40 pm
ha ha you don’t watch many games then.
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david Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:43 pm
ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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half_baked_spuds Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:15 pm
he came on and looks as afflicted as the rest of em. oh dear I was banking on him,
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November 22nd, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Ade saving himself for Sunday ?
Not the only one.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Why has he got a big dinner planned?
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ELELEL Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:36 pm
What’s he doing on Sunday? Going to ikea?
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david Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:38 pm
No one told him he is banned.
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jfdit Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:39 pm
he won’t need a shower after today will he?
I’m close to self harming watching this drivel
anyone got any good jokes?
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:43 pm
Dempsey and Sig…The Chuckle Brothers…
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Alspur Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:45 pm
To me, to y… oh, shit…
To you, to m… oh, shit…
Repeat ad nauseam…
jfdit Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:46 pm
pinky & perky
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Banned or planned the choice is yours…
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November 22nd, 2012 at 7:42 pm
free ticket to the paniciterous game
http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/930589/Gorilla/
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November 22nd, 2012 at 7:43 pm
I kind of want us to loose………..one less distraction and maybe he will finally give up on this formation that Dembele covered up the cracks for him for a few games.
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half_baked_spuds Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:13 pm
i’ve got a better idea than changing the formation….
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Go on tell us, you little tease, you
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half_baked_spuds Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Get rid of levy and find somebody who is prepared to actually do what it says in big letters at the lane. The manager’s got a bit longer to convince me that he actually knows what he’s talking about. January-Feb is make or break, after that if things are still the same as right now he’s failed (twice) big time and the pair of em should walk. Fresh slate. All this talk of a season of transition is just bollox; transition from 3 seasons 4th, 5th, 4th and champions league quarter final? What? Levy just fooked up big time and spurs fans who agree with that are just biting off their noses to spite their faces.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:12 pm
We as a club can’t just go out and find someone-it’s down to Levy or ENIC to sell to someone who are prepared to part with billions in order for us to compete..I’d have thought?
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Le Octopus has been magnifique tonight…..
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MIKE T Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:20 pm
L’Octupus
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Hartley Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:44 pm
L’Octupus has been maginifique tonight…..
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JayMon Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Chuck Lloris
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Has their keeper made a save ?
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Tipped a Bale cross/shot over the bar. Can’t remember anything apart from that.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Loads, but not in this game.
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jfdit Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:52 pm
we only strung more than two or three passes together once or twice in the second half
this is lazio we’re playing, a very second rate italian side
poor entertainment but at least we didn’t lose
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November 22nd, 2012 at 7:50 pm
I haven’t enjoyed watching Spurs this little for nearly 5 years. I’m not a real fan as I don’t get to many games despite living in a probation hostel on Northumberland Park Rd, and I do have to rely on moody streams that exist to support international terrorism. But even herberts like me deserve better.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
What gives you that idea?
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
“moody streams that exist to support international terrorism”
CNN, NBC or FOX?
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November 22nd, 2012 at 7:53 pm
West Ham must be quaking in their boots.
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Alspur Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Good job the boys had a decent rest, this evening, eh?
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Crazy thing is we could have sent the boys out there this evening, been walloped 6-0 and it wouldn’t have made the slightest difference as tonight’s result has had absolutely no bearing on our chances of qualifying.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
You mean daisy roots for the cockenese.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
After 20 mins I did the following experiment
I applied a coat of Crown white emulsion to my wall and then applied a coat of Dulux eggshell..after watching it for the following 73mins-the Dulux white dried marginally quicker than the Crown did..interesting huh?
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jfdit Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:00 pm
I missed the 1st 30 mins – was that any better?
dulux supermatt covers much better than crown but the colours from crown are nicer, you have to watch the satinwood yellowing with dulux now you know
we are missing something at the moment ………………….
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
I just put the kettle on and watched it boil until there was no water left.
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:08 pm
That’s highly dangerous Steve-it’s as bad as sniffing the varnish I’m about to apply as Liverpool take the field-but at least they’re playing in sparkling turquoise shirts encrusted with diamante and gold lame stripes and they’ve got 99 red balloons and Nina in goal-weird shit that varnish
david Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:09 pm
I’m watching young boys …..
Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Now then, now then
david Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:12 pm
You know it’s bad when the comments on this blog are more entertaining than the match.
jfdit Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:15 pm
has all the wallpaper in the dining room fell off?
I was tempted to drive a 6″ nail through my ballbag as it appeared to be less painful
please someone tell me everything will be ok
Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Every’ting’s gonna be alright-no woman no cry–no wooooh-man-no woman no cry-not too sure about Spurs though?
david Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Everything will be ok, that hole in your ball bag will heal up eventually. Just make sure nothing falls out of the hole.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:14 pm
@JFDIT-Do they still do Magicoat? I’d like to compare-in fact i could start a webpage for bored Spurs fans on match days-Comparethepaintcoat.com-it’s sure fire winner-that or the Samaritans..choices choices
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jfdit Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:21 pm
I insist on the dog paint on my jobs, mind you that diamond paint is a right c*nt if you have to touch up any areas – eggshell the way forward with kitchens and bathrooms I reckon
half_baked_spuds Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:11 pm
should have applied it over the tv screen.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 7:55 pm
we were poo
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half_baked_spuds Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:07 pm
the poo was steaming tonight. Lloris the only bright spark, but AVB will still probably play old yoga chops at weekend.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Bright sparks around steaming poo is explosive comment.
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half_baked_spuds Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:17 pm
a big explosion would be good; we can claim the insurance money and buy a decent team, like wigan.
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
I just hope a few of our boys kick the shit out of a lot of eyeties.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Well that would make us as bad as them.
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Frontwheel 2 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Just kicky,no stabby
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November 22nd, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Oh, well… a point against Panathanaikos and we’re through…
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half_baked_spuds Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:09 pm
you mean i’ll have to watch more of this dross?
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Did you say gloss?
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half_baked_spuds Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:00 pm
go out and paint the town.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Well I’ve dome the halls stairs and landing so-why not–got any red?
November 22nd, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Oh, and a clean sheet – first one of those we’ve kept for a while, isn’t it? Since Villa?
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ELELEL Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
Yes. I think we should have lost about 7-nil but as fortune should have it, we have a decent keeper. Thank heavens for small mercies.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:03 pm
or as Jimmy Savile would say thank heavens for little girls…
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Spurstacus Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Small mercenaries? Child soldiers? No thanks ELELEL.
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Small mercies-is that like Lloris saying thank you under his breath?
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Ahahaha. Hawhehawhehaw.
half_baked_spuds Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:07 pm
yeah thanks solely to Lloris, not the defence.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 8:04 pm
Lloris man of the match by a mile. For god’s sake give him the no.1 slot or we’re gonna lose one of the best keepers in the world for the sake of keeping an oap happy for a view more weeks.
Adebayor underwhelming and not a striker – plays on the wings too much, looks like defoe or nothing for goals.
Walker did ok for me, better performance tonight, but generally woeful. Anybody who thinks this mob is an improvement on last season is an idiot. Just compare this europa league group campaign with the champions league group campaign, yes we did have modric then but no adebayor, verthongen and dembele. Poor again, this cant go on for much longer.
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daytripper11 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
I agree all around. This was the worst performance I have watched since the Ramos days.
Our mids and strikers looked like League One level players today under their pressure.
On a positive note, I would like to commend Caulker and Naughton for outstanding matches. I watched most of their matches last season and they had some bright moments, but for both of them, this was by far their strongest matches at this level.
Naughton put up a wall at midfield and forced Lazio to attack the much weaker Walker (who had his best match of the season but was still lacking).
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ELELEL Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:23 pm
It was very dull, but I think you’re being harsh saying it was the worst performance since the Ramos days. Wigan at home, Norwich away, Maribor away, West Brom, even QPR were all just as bad.
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jfdit Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:26 pm
are you related to LLL?
maybe his spanish cousin?
Spurstacus Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Ha ha. Yes I always thought that LLL was probably his own cousin.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Sunderland and Villa away were not exactly bums off seats games either! Fairs-fair
half_baked_spuds Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:01 pm
anyone detect a pattern here?
Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Yeah, I thought both backs did OK-regards to Walker, hopefully the kick in the goolies both he and the kyle got on Sat will be the road to recovery for the pair of them-which is good and brave management to be fair-can I take bets on who blames the pitch first?
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onedavemackay Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:40 pm
I am very concerned about Walker. He keeps making poor decisions and giving the ball away. I hope he will improve but right now he is a liability
Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:41 pm
He is, but less so tonight-his pace gets him out of an awful lot of trouble-however his brain get’s him right back into it
jfdit Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
walker is the forest gump of the premier league, if he didn’t have pace he’d be playing in the third division
Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:46 pm
That’s why I couldn’t fathom letting Charlie go in January? It made no sense at all, and surely letting Rose go out on loan was equally as stupid?
onedavemackay Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:54 pm
He gave the ball away so often and his diving is ridiculous
onedavemackay Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:47 pm
We have lost 2 of our 3 most influential players and AVB has a completely different tactical approach to Harry.
If (and I know it’s a big if) we get another decent striker and Moutinho or someone similar in January things will look very different. AVB needs time to get the whole squad playing to his tune.
Patience chaps patience
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ELELEL Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
If we could sign Messi and Ronaldo we’d be world beaters.
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:00 pm
If we signed Jamie Oliver and Ainsley Harriet we could be egg beaters
jfdit Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Sorry ODM I have to disagree, how will a decent striker change anything if we play one up front? What striker will we get that’s any good with our budget?
Moutinho is a ball winning defensive midfielder, him and sandro may shore up our defence but we need a playmaker in the pirlo mould to sort our offensive/link up play. Again how will we get a world class player for the money we have to spend?
I really hope AVB can turn us round but he seems too cerebral for our dimwitted squad, they appear to not understand his basic pattern of play/tactics and in the main play like strangers despite having played together for years.
If he loses the next two or three badly I reckon levy will dump him and we’ll have the pleat show again
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half_baked_spuds Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:04 pm
you mean avb actually has tactics? pray tell what are they?
onedavemackay Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Levy wants a long term solution not a short term fix. If you don’t think AVB is any good fair enough but unless he’s given time we’ll never really know.
From what I understand AVB expects players to be more expansive. So Lloris is a goalkeeper and a sweeper and Dembele is a defensive and attacking midfielder. Vertonghen is typical in being a total footballer – comfortable anywhere on the pitch.
It’s a big change he needs time
jfdit Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:36 pm
hasn’t levy always had a 5 year plan?
I didn’t say AVB wasn’t good enough, I said the players lack the intelligence to comprehend what he’s trying to do
another possible view is the levy/lewis business plan is a busted flush and we’ve got a ‘yes’ man to oversee the balancing books era due to our CL wage bill being out of sync with our non CL turnover.
I said when we appointed AVB he may be the next cloughie but by the same token he may just be another santini, we’ll see soon enough
half_baked_spuds Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:03 pm
yeah he doesn’t know what the fook he’s doing.
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onedavemackay Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 pm
That’s easy to say but harder to demonstrate
ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:17 pm
He’s been doing a pretty good demonstration so far
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Worried,worried,worried worriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedddddddddddddddddddd
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November 22nd, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Lloris, number one
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November 22nd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
You left an “e” out.
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david Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
No dealing on here Steve!
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:56 pm
I dropped it
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November 22nd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Looking on the bright side at least the laundry lady won’t have to worry about washing the kit before Sunday’s game.
And Dembele is back!
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November 22nd, 2012 at 8:31 pm
positive thought
I watch joe cole and downing play and realise things could be much worse
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david Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Welcome to our January signings.
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onedavemackay Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
You forgot that Harry is no longer our manager
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half_baked_spuds Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:05 pm
shame.
jfdit Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:37 pm
nelsen & saha will take some topping
pure indulgence those two
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onedavemackay Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:53 pm
I think Harry just liked their names
Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:58 pm
I remember when TV bought anyone with the name Paul
Hartley Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 10:50 pm
He was after Lambert and Butler….
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Another positive.. how many times do we have to get the ball in the net against these jokers for it to be called a goal?
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Five. No, six!
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November 22nd, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Benjamin Button’s just scored for liverpoop
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November 22nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
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Ddoris had his best game for us on the one hand but on the other, the fact that he was probably man of the match, tells another, less attractive story, regarding our ongoing lack of edge up front but I won’t bore you. Walker, after a couple of dodgy moments early in the first half, settle nicely into the job well for the rest of the match I thought. Back line were generally fairly solid and the midfield held and passed the ball well for the first half but we went back into punt it up field a little too much second half. Given that lazio could have won it 3 or 4 nil but for their profligacy it’s ironic that the only goal scored was, according to two commentators, wrongly called offside. Did Defoe or Dempsey have a shot? I honestly can’t remember.
Good to see positive & early substitutes. Also good to see Carroll looking the part.
panathinaikos; now that’s a game.
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half_baked_spuds Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:07 pm
did adebayoooore play?
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November 22nd, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Cheer up. At least we’re not them.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2236606/Roberto-Di-Matteo-sacked-Chelsea-Roman-Abramovich-Inside-story-Neil-Ashton.html
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Just read it-it’s a nice little earner for someone who can just say-’I'll play Fernando every week for 5m a year-and to hell with the results Roman”
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ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:31 am
One good thing about being Spurs fans is that we’ll never, ever have to say we are Chelsea fans.
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Yeah, right-on…I think?
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November 22nd, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Excuse me for my ignorance. But was this attack racially motivated? Because you’re picture implies so.
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:22 pm
‘Supposedly’ it was Anti-Semetic” ,but it’s really a case of Italian thugs using the same cowardly tactics to beat up innocent people, knowing the police will absolutely nothing-and they’ll feel like men-but we all know what they are-it’s been the same for other English supporters over the years-so how it’s now a religious thing is beyond me-but I don’t have a newspaper to sell, do I?
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StrappingYoungLad Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:54 pm
Oh, right, thanks, I never thought of that. My first thought was just Italian tribalist thugs. But the Anti-semetic thing could be a factor. But history says they do this to any English club. Remember the Italian police attacking Man utd fans in rome few years back too. And they got off with that too I think. They must bribe a lot of people in high authority.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 9:24 pm
This:
http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2012/11/picture-tottenham-hotspur-fan-following-rome-violence/?
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david Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 9:34 pm
That is a serious injury. Poor sod.
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 11:40 pm
For anyone thinking about clicking on the link above take a few deep breaths first — it is definitely not for the faint-hearted. You have been warned.
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StrappingYoungLad Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:00 am
Jesus, that is brutal. Hope he makes a full recovery
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November 22nd, 2012 at 9:47 pm
We just go from bad to worse. Just when you think they’re might be some light on the horizon it gets blacked out with a performance like that.
I’m dreading Sunday now, play like this and it will be open warfare down the lane between the ‘I’ll back avb no matter what we have to watch’ and those that think booing will make this dross go away.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Booooooooooring.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 10:25 pm
I’m beginning to think this is as bad as the Ramos era. No, it’s not ‘knee jerk’ it’s real. This team looked scared. They are afraid to go at other team with any passing accuracy or belief. They seem exactly as they were after they won the League Cup under Ramos. They don’t look very interested. AVB isn’t convincing me in the slightest. He’s a mess waiting to happen.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Sign of the times ?
Just went on the Spurs site and quite a few tickets available for Sunday’s game.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:41 am
Must be, cos my first reaction was, ‘oh great, maybe I’ll buy one’, then I thought, ‘hang on…’
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November 22nd, 2012 at 11:24 pm
can I get next in line to Arry to distance myself from A Very Boring one? what a horror show of the game. Levy just admit it clueless portugese dwarf is not cut for this league. My kitchen table has more charisma.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 pm
I may be a cock eyed optimist whose glass is always half full but I believe AVB has got what it takes and if we give him time he will deliver.
But hey I’ve been wrong before
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
You cannot keep blaming the manager for players not being able to pass 10 yards to a team-mate, but you can for not getting the best of them-so I’m creosoted at the moment-still hoping to see something to brighten my season or wondering whether to pop down to Homebase and get a few paint samples before Sunday?
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November 22nd, 2012 at 11:45 pm
The next few games and XMas will really test the whole AVB/board relationship despite whatever the good will is so far. With January coming up as the only chance to improve the team, Levy may be forced to look at the situation then if things are still this crappy.
I back AVB, i want him to work out and he needs some players back yet but the coming period is becoming crucial for him and our season. Limping through to the knockout stage of the Europa league won’t fool anyone. This was a full strength side apart from the injured few. A good first 18mins at Arsenal and a smashing of a pub team at home does not suggest that we have turned any corner just yet, especially after tonight!! We cannot keep making the excuse about Dembele, Lazio and Wigan are not world beaters.
AVB needs time still but this tactical whizz-kid he was always supposed to be is nowhere to be seen at the moment. He needs to settle things down and get the team playing with some kind of flow or swagger. I don’t think we’ve done that much if at all so far this season and that is becoming a slight worry for me. That can start to become a lack of confidence and then you’re really stuffed…
Let’s hope we look much better against Wet Spam, if we don’t turn up against them then i will start to wonder if he’s the right man. Even if we lose we must look like we’re up for it and play like we aren’t shit scared at least. We needed to put in a performance against Reading away after some turgid performances and we did, so here’s hoping.
My only question is, why don’t we seem to be improving?
Yeah, Italy is a nice place to visit but quite a large part of the population are very insular and live in the dark ages compared to here. Pretty disorganised and corrupt too, bit like a watered down Serbia!!
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November 23rd, 2012 at 12:19 am
Today was the last straw for me with AVB. He has lost me. He made an undersized and recklessly over-aggressive defence look like world beaters.
Any half decent manager would have picked them apart with mid-range passes to runners sliding into the massive gaps their defenders were leaving open all match (like every other manager does to AVBs high line).
I am not seeing any tactical adjustments being made in any matches – especially on the attacking side.
I have been thinking that maybe AVB is only a defensive mind. But then no manager in football plays a high line without pressing the other teams midfielders.
Then today, I waited the entire second half for a simple defensive adjustment to prevent Lazio from attacking Walker, but he never made it. Their LM was by far their best attacking player and was their only player capable of getting the ball into the box. Yet he was left alone in space the entire second half. Even when the ball was already on that side of the pitch, where it should have been easy to roll Walker over to mark him.
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November 23rd, 2012 at 12:25 am
I’d like to see that lot go up against ours or any English football firm, i don’t condone any sort of violence but this was an attack by a hardcore element against a bunch of older lads just relaxing and behaving in a pub. It was cowardly, pick a fight with the hard nuts if you want to show the World how big and tough you are!!
Some of the pathetic wankers even wore helmets! Do me a favour… They’ll all be at Gay Pride Rome next week, knob heads!
Italians have never been any good at having it anyway, look at what happened during the 40′s. Call yourselves fascists? Soon strung up old Benito when things to a turn for the worse didn’t you… Cowards then, cowards now!
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November 23rd, 2012 at 12:34 am
This is not about players. last 15 minutes we had our best 11 available today against 2nd team Lazio. we looked appalling. SleveligGy Clunt and Walker are as poor as they come on this level. We really went back to Ramoses time.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:38 am
I think you need to work a bit on your puns. None of them are quite working, although I have to admit I like ‘Clunt’.
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November 23rd, 2012 at 1:25 am
Ddoris was like gomes on speed
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November 23rd, 2012 at 2:29 am
funny because only yesterday harry hotspur was going on like levy had called him himself to tell him that avb was going to be at the lane for 2 years hahahahaha
2 years?
hahhahahahahhahahahahha
yeah right
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November 23rd, 2012 at 5:39 am
Our new keeper should have cemented his place with that performance . Is the AVB brigade still happy ? Of course they are there’s another excuse this time it’s the refs fault. Again with AVB there always seems to be an adequate excuse close at hand. I just can’t see the going backwards to move forwards point of view at this rate bale will leave at the end of the season. Surely the only thing that AVB’s fans can’t help saying they “see” in him is the blind hope that their ridiculous wish Harry was to be sacked is now coming to bite every Spurs fan in the arse. Well done boys and “girls” be carefull what you wish for
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November 23rd, 2012 at 7:53 am
Clattenberg exonerated. Suitable grovelling apology from the team and sanction against Chelsea, probably not.
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LosLorenzo Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:45 am
Hard to claim Chelsea should be sanctioned for this one. They had a player (Ramires) who vehemently claimed, and probably earnestly believed, he heard Mark call a teammate “monkey”. Their only options were either to report it, or cover it up. The fact that they chose the first option is to their credit.
What they DIDN’T have to do was go out and immediately make the fact that they had reported an incident public. So they’re still c*nts, don’t worry. In fiarness, Clattenburg would be withing his rights to claim compensation for his ordeal from them, but he won’t for fear of ruining his career.
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:19 am
Yes I understand it was off camera. The media pictures at the time appear to show Clattenberg in control of his faculties and acting quite calmly. Someone who did say “monkey” would be acting irrationally, raving and lost control. I can’t imagine any official in Clattenberg’s position calmly lecturing players and then throwing in a racist remark as an afterthought. I would have to be absolutely sure in my own mind that I had heard correctly, what with all the controversy raging around me. A man’s career could be in ruins because someone misheard something. Apparently everything now is going to be recorded so the situation shouldn’t happen again.
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:15 am
We are talking CHELSCUM here who have a record of targeting Refs.
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:53 am
The Harry mob are happy AVB isn’t rocking the show and the AVB mob are trying to find any excuse they can dig out to defend him, Dembele, lack of quality signings etc etc.
AVB’s philosophy, methods whatever it is need to start kicking in now. There is an obvious lack of fluidity and cohesion, its there for all to see… I think he could be the right man long term but you don’t get time in football management unless you meet minimum expectations and at the moment that isn’t happening.
I will say though, the playmakers we have been linked with in the media for January could well show the root of the problem. Pranjic and Ericsson etc, Carroll is clearly in the team because he can play a pass or two and has some creativity and vision. He’s getting in ahead of J.D, Thudd, Guylfi etc now. We are clearly lacking in that department so the point that AVB doesn’t have the players to play his system properly may well hold some water. Dempsey and Sigudsson don’t fit in at all. May as well get rid in Jan rather than sacrifice Dawson, if we sign two creative players how the hell will they even get near the team then? They’re looking like square pegs already!!
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Lordy Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:31 am
I’m not happy at all my beloved Spurs aren’t doing well and looking boring to boot. I really hope AVB turns it round and quickly because Levy to spare looking like he has egg on his face will not sack AVB until there is no other alternative by which time our only truly world class player will be gone and the chance of buying top players is gone with him. HR might not have been the ultimate answer in fact I’m sure he wasn’t but he was better than the man in charge now and to sack him without bringing in someone better was irresponsible to say the least. Levy must be held responsible for our poor results and boring play(which hurts the most) and all you Harry haters gave Levy the licence to get rid of him. You may be quite content watching mid table boring crap as long as the managers face fits but I had my fill of that while Francis was in charge, it was all injuries and other excuses then, have you ever thought that AVBs fine season in charge at Porto was the flash in the pan and that all the shit that has followed him since is more to his actual standard.
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East Stand Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:05 am
You could be right about the flash in the pan season, the more time goes on and he doesn’t get anywhere near that level, people will start saying it more and more. Ginger’s gotta get his plan into action and bloody quick!! If he actually has one…
I don’t think Levy will give a toss about having egg on his face, i think he’s far too pragmatic a character to care about what people think of him. He will do what he thinks is right for the club, whatever that may be. That’s always been his way. Anyway, why is it Levy’s fault if AVB is actually shit?
Some will say he should never have booted Harry out and if we look like a rudderless ship and our season becomes a mid-table disaster, they’d have every right to. Despite what HH and others might think of the ‘saggycockernywankerbarraboybastard’.
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November 23rd, 2012 at 9:17 am
After that wimper of a game we’ll have
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:33 am
Could you start by stating the obvious,barring fantastic Lloris,WE WAS S**T
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:49 am
Only saying mind but i would suggest surgical gloves,mask and a long prod as it is beginning to stink a bit.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:23 am
Look forward to it.
#hotspursanalbumparty
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Jol 5:5 Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:42 am
Ol’ Darren Anderton had some useful comments on ESPN or somesuch – said we were trying the highline and couldn’t make it work as the back 4 had not played together enough. Our lack of know how and our lack of closing down the opposition enabled the Lazio midfielders to ping their passes into the spce behind our highline.
And Naughton, if that man gets trapped any more times on the sideline, starts running towards our goal, losses possession instead of using the Mick McCarthy method – I’ll scream. He learnt nothing from the Maribor ricket. McCarthy rule was “put it in row Z – as far as I know nobody’s ever scored from Row Z”. Come back Benny – at least you only kick it over your shoulder into the sky.
Anyway, a clean sheet thanks to Kozak and Hugo.
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November 23rd, 2012 at 10:21 am
There was a lot of disinterested players out there last night IMO and they should be told,START PLAYING FOR CLUB AND MANAGER OR YOU ARE ON YOUR WAY.
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munso Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:53 am
i dont think i have seen such a good spurs team play so badly.
after the subs, we were as strong as we have been all year, yet couldn’t string 3 passes together.
There is something wrong when all the big names (except Lloris) don’t look right, maybe there is a problem with the players and AVB?
as for that tottenham fan photo from weds night posted earlier, I cannot get that image out of my head, he is lucky to be alive.’orrible bastards.
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77spur Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
yeah, lazio are a half decent team but with our players we should be dominating. Lackluster was the word used again. Wrong formation, not playing to our obvious strengths and the attitude is different, the players are not free to express themselves anymore. BAD BAD BAD.
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jbo Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Regarding the graphic picture that is doing the rounds of the poor bloke with a serious head injury. Is this a genuine photo related to the Rome incident or a fake? The name Ashley Mills is mentioned but this fan did an interview in the Evening Standard and that is not him in the photo on a hospital bed. The fan has also been called Ashley Williams so it is a little bit ambiguous. I am wondering whether it is a fake photo or at least not related to the incident in Rome. One or two people have said it isn’t related.
Either way I suppose it is beside the point. What happened in Rome is abhorrent and has scarred the spurs support as a collective. Nobody deserves to suffer in this way for the love of their football team. There must be severe consequences. How can we as fans show our support at the game on Sunday for the fans attacked and seriously injured in Rome? What is THFC doing to ‘support’ their supporters during their hour of need??
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November 23rd, 2012 at 11:50 am
Bet Tarbat is looking forward to playing for saggy chops again.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:58 am
I don’t think he did the first time around. He only ever played for himself.
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melcyid Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:01 pm
well suited then.
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
He does run ’round a bit though!
ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Whoops, kind of more or less beat me to it.
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November 23rd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Sparky for Spurs?
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November 23rd, 2012 at 12:03 pm
ere Bondy,sorted out anuvver nice little earner,but will have to drop your wages a bit as its abaht hour and alf less travelling.
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November 23rd, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Take a look at this
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/spurs-fan-tells-of-terror-in-rome-they-came-out-of-nowhere-then-i-was-stabbed-8346876.html
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November 23rd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
would you adam and eve it. The Syrup in charge for the pikeys game, a man with something to prove
can we get the goal line technology installed quick please.
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November 23rd, 2012 at 1:24 pm
At least the 2pts from 8 games slogan will be long forgotten – nows it 4pts from 12 games!!
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ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Only this time it will be accompanied by ‘Mark is a triffic manager and a good friend of mine, but for whatever reason it didn’t work out, you know’
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LosLorenzo Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Pfft! Four in twelve is nothing. Anyone can get a point every three games. A point every four – now THAT takes mad skillz.
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November 23rd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
I bet Taarabt is looking forward to being sent out on loan to Burton Albion.
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LosLorenzo Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Burton Albion… Isn’t that where Zidane went before he broke through?
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Its where he learned the finer arts of the game. Like head butting.
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November 23rd, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Timeless quote from Adeboy
“If we get badder than this, I think we’d be dead.”
Is that a Wu Tang line? Whatever. I’m pretending to be the best man at a mates wedding soon. Am definitely working this line into my speech somehow.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Oh dear, grammar and syntax aside, that is one depressing read. He is depressed, the squad is depressed, we might ‘die’. He thinks his whole season may be shit and the club might want to get rid of him. Wtf is going on???
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LosLorenzo Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:39 pm
He’s an emotional guy. One decent performance, three points and perhaps a goal for him, and that big ol’ grin will be right back.
As for the likelyhood of a decent performance this weekend – I’m always an optimist, but not so optimistic that I’m putting money on it.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Regardless, it does not speak of a happy camp. Perhaps the clappers here need to go down to the training ground to spread some of their positive vibes around.
Following Spurs, I’m nearly always optimistic immediately prior to a game. It’s a bit of madness that the years of sour experience hasn’t tempered. But recently, I have started to expect to be bored and underwhelmed. And I have to say, I haven’t been let down yet!
LosLorenzo Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
I’d be even more worried if they’d been playing as they have, and getting the results that they hae lately, and still been all smiles and good cheer. But obviously having a negative vibe in the locker room can be very bad news, and a vicious cycle.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
I don’t know-Ade get’s pilloried for laughing and joking one minute-then slated for being a little morose the following week-fickle of what?
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MIKE T Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:10 pm
the way ade speaks its certain he wont stay if things dont improve
he talks like its a bad season for him and for him alone
but then again we know that if he had any allegiance to anything apart from himself he would never have come here after playing for the scum
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November 23rd, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Once again spurs fans are the victims but the media are still talking about US chanting the word yid. What cretinous plebs like herbert and baddiel dont seem to understand is that words take on different meanings. Im not jewish but like eveyone on here have been called a filthy f-ing yid by scum supporters before, whether its chelsea, west ham or whoever. Also now fans have been attacked, jewish and non-jewish, so you start to identify with the original recipients and we stand together buy adopting the yiddo chant. The sooner these people get their eyes on the real problem and not the Tottenham fans the better for all.
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November 23rd, 2012 at 2:47 pm
on a slightly lighter note….when bale goes we will be wandering into christian gross territory.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:50 pm
That’s the lighter note?
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November 23rd, 2012 at 3:13 pm
This site has been totally over run with the I told you so king,LLL.His gimps gayboys and spice girls are very depressing,bordering on Scouse whining.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Still not as bad as a whining scouse tho eh? Eh, eh, eh?
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ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Thank god for contributions such as this, otherwise this would be a really dull place.
What do you mean ‘I told you so’ anyway? I don’t believe I’ve ever claimed to be a soothsayer, nor triumphed in the success of any predictions. If you mean that I moaned at the beginning and that now you think I was right all along, then I can’t do ‘owt about that.
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Frontwheel 2 Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:17 pm
when you stated a few months ago that you would like to be able to say”I told you so”you lost any worth with me,and all your whining words just make me want to [
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ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:38 pm
I didn’t say that you craven buzzard!
Not my words, and not the context. Not that I really care much either way.
But I am mortally disappointed that I don’t have any worth to you. I also regret that I seem to have assumed a ringleader status in your mind as someone who has come in and pissed all over your playground. As far as I can tell, the schoolyard is still dominated by the happy hymns of the tamborine bashing clappers and scientologist types leaving only a small rabble of dissenters pissing in the corner. If you can’t handle a little bit of dissent – and piss – then I shall repeat, you are a craven buzzard. And you have lost any worth to me too. And I’m going to go to sleep now also.
Frontwheel 2 Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:33 pm
I’m not the type to go hunting in the archives,liar liar
LLL Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
No need. I know what I said, and importantly I understand what I meant. Which you clearly don’t. No matter.
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
it gets worse. For HH and all good Spurs/football fans anywhere. http://www.sportaccord.com/multimedia/docs/2012/02/2012_-_IRIS_-_etude_paris_sportlifs_etcorruption_-_ENG.pdf
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November 23rd, 2012 at 3:19 pm
WRONG try this. http://www.sportaccord.com/multimedia/docs/2012/02/2012_-_IRIS_-_etude_paris_sportifs_et_corruption_-_ENG.pdf
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November 23rd, 2012 at 3:23 pm
its not working for some reason. If anyone would like to look at the “Bochum trial” go ahead.
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77spur Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Google bochum trail sportaccord…its the 1st thing up.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Can’t you just give us a brief synopsis?
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:54 pm
In 147 characters or less? On a different web site?
77spur Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:18 pm
HA…no, im not qualified. Browse at your own leisure.
`rich g Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:50 am
what a loadof bollix
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77spur Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 11:06 am
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November 23rd, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Same old Italians – just seen the ‘split head’ pic posted on another newsnow site. Happy to do that to a bloke when they have 100+ of their heavily armed mates behind them. Put them in a war situation (like the Greco-Italian War) and they collapse like a bunch of pansies and get wiped out in record time. What a shower of vanilla yellow, cowardly jokers they are. ‘Ultra’? don’t ,make me laugh – any one of them would run a mile if they were one-on-one.
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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
I’m willing to lay some of the blame on the awful pitch. Some of the passes along the ground ended up at waist height.
Lazio had the right idea by hoofing it first time constantly, but we don’t do that.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Lazio had the right idea by hoofing it first time constantly, but we don’t do that.
Too right. Err, what is it we do btw?
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JayMon Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Other things.. you know.. kicking and stuff.
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Lordy Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Really ? the pitch? its the field of plays fault now?
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JayMon Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:57 pm
I’m pretty sure it two-footed Ade at some point. Ref did nothing.
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November 23rd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
redkbnobs in then
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ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Bulk sale of deadwood in January. Levy will deliver. Buy any 3, get free Jenas.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Who will he be ‘in for’?
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Big Tom. Carlo. Scotty. Defoe.
Spurstacus Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Gallas?
ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:53 pm
I think he’s definitely not going to be ‘in for Dawson’, no, no, there’s nothing in that one. Definitely not going to be ‘in for Defoe’ either, no, no, he loves the little fella, he’s signed him 26 times, nobody knows Jermaine like he does, but no, no, I can’t see that one.
ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Looking at it now, I reckon that what the QPR squad lacks is a few ‘characters about the place’. You know, Scotty Parker, his banjo may be shot to pieces, he might never kick a ball again, but he’s just a really triffic person, a top top pro and the kind of lad you want on your training ground.
As fortune would have it, he already has Nelsen, who is a real good example of a really old bastard, way past it, who trains really hard every day and somehow still plays top level football.
77spur Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:25 pm
i thought scotty parker played the ukelele…
77spur Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 5:30 pm
he had a hawaiian grandmother, dont you remember the whole buisiness about whether he should play for hawaii or england? He chose england cos he didnt look so good in a grass skirt…
melcyid Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
nice little 15% off the top for those then.
melcyid Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:38 pm
fried eels?
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:40 pm
I expect a certain forward that gives you something different up front to be at QPR in jan then.A couple more bank accounts in dogs names in monte carlo as well.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:44 pm
I didn’t mean to put that there. Just experimenting with the swear filter. Seems to be really random.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:46 pm
You are of course blob on about Crouchy though. I’m sure a certain ‘best eleven year old that I’ve ever seen’ will be making his way down from Scouse-town too.
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melcyid Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 6:54 pm
redcrapps allstar globetrotters.
Spurstacus Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Yes melcy I agree you are on the blob about Crouchinho.
Spurstacus Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:15 pm
How about Blobby Keane?
ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Maybe they should hire Bloberto DeMatteo?
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:39 pm
As long as we stuff the pikeys and stop them blowing blobbles.
November 23rd, 2012 at 7:24 pm
I wish they wouldn’t put The Rolling Stones on the tv at tea-time. As a rebellious youth I wallowed in their immense musical accomplishments,but to have their wizened features thrust into my living room at peak viewing time is a bit like being mesmerized watching my grandson play “Resident Evil”. It also hurts knowing that the last time we won the league was about 3 years before I had even purchased one of their 45′s.
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November 23rd, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Great performance from the team and our great manager last night.
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November 23rd, 2012 at 7:36 pm
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/emmanuel-adebayor-finds-it-hard-to-be-positive-8346608.html
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East Stand Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:01 pm
That doesn’t sound good at all… It sounds to me like everyone wants to sort it out but they’re starting to wonder how and are at a loss at the moment. This does point to the manager i’m afraid, he oversees everything. It’s his system, his coaching and his man management that influence what happens on the pitch, who else do you look to?
I honestly think the next 3-4 games will decide the future, i didn’t before as i saw a long term plan but if you can’t sort out the present what’s the use? This next home game is crucial, i’m dreading it now!! We have not looked a real cohesive unit yet this season and we don’t seem to be building anything at the moment.
I honestly think despite all the good will towards AVB and a long plan, Levy will pull the trigger unless things start to look up and our performances look more consistent. Maybe AVB is just not suited to managing over here, maybe the season with Porto was a one off after all? I’m on the brink of starting to think that now, i hope i’m wrong but it is a long standing fear i have with him. I hoped he would prove otherwise but it’s not looking too hot right now…
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Klinsi Klinik Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:44 pm
This is the fella who single handedly blew our chances at the Emptycrates last weekend and all he can do now is play mind games in a negative way, what a prick….so easy to say this shit when he won’t anywhere near it, heaping negative shit on his mates, no wonder none of the Arse players wanted anything to do with him in the tunnel last week, this piece of crap says it all…you’d never hear Sandro coming out with this shit, Abe not fit to tie his bootlaces as far as I’m ocncerned now.
While I’m on it I’d just like to ask how many Brit teams ever go to an Italian away game and come away with anything let alone a point in a game where the only legit goal was ours and yet it’s like a friging wake in here !
We don’t have many CL quality players FFS, never have had to date so what can any of us expect.
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East Stand Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 pm
A new A-B comparison war type thing rather than ‘Saggy’ or ‘Notebook’ based on recent player comments in the media.
‘Negative Ade and ‘Positive Jan’…
Which side are YOU on?
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November 23rd, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Never mind all that, is anyone confident of doing the pikeys?
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Lordy Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:50 pm
No i think we will dominate the game but fall victim to an Andy Carroll header from a free kick that never should have been then Levy and AVB backers can be positive about the improved performance and how the ref gave them a free kick that should never have been. They can then spit on Redknapp as he and his QPR team pass us on their way up the league (but at least they wont have our training ground and he wont make them train twice a day eh HH)
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East Stand Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:33 pm
No, are you?
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November 23rd, 2012 at 8:06 pm
This could turn into a loss of confidence and belief, that’s when things go properly baps up!!! I am officially worried now.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Not to worry, I’m sure there is a positive way of reading the Adebayor interview. I just need HH or one of his spice girls to explain it to me.
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calebray Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:44 pm
hows this then…..
since saggychops left, all press interviews are sanctioned by the club. this is nothing more than a public rallying call, letting the fans know the players and management are feeling it too and are determined to get their mojo back.
is that any good?
its all ive got…
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ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMYK91KmQ6g
East Stand Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Baby Spice…
Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Could The Spice Girls be paired up with The Rolling Stones?
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TMWNN Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:49 pm
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Did we ever get a definitive answer as to who HH wannabe spice girls are? And who the turd burglars are? Are the HHWSG’s the happy clappers? I thought that the happy clappers were the HR haters.. hold on… The happy clappers liked HR didn’t they? None of this matters of course if you are a real fan. Although even they have a breakaway sect called the Branch Davidian True Fans that claim to be the purists.I don’t think that I’m a turd burglar or a spice girl. I think that I’m probably a lapsed happy clapper that aspire to real fan status. I doubt that I could ever attain the status of a true fan and maybe that’s a good thing. They are a rare and some what psychotic bunch.
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melcyid Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:53 pm
tee hee
calebray Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:57 pm
being only an armchair blogger, i am unqualified to comment. i dont post as much as the real HH fans, such as old L3 up there. I wish i did post more so i could boo everybody and have a real opinion that mattered. i dont even have broadband.
Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:58 pm
This sounds like the artist index for “Britain’s Got Talent”.
Hartley Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:10 pm
I couldnt stand Rubberchops even before he came so no happy clapper, I’m quite happy giving AVB a chance so no ficklefucker, I quite like Kyle Walker but can’t stand PNB, Gallas or Adebayor and I go to every home game and some away but my European days are way behind me so not really a true fan….I’m a happyfuckerextruefanbutnowijustlikemoaning type……
ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:32 pm
If I thought AVB was suspect before and still do does that exempt me from the ficklefucker gang too?
My own affiliation is the subject of some conjecture. Just today I was tagged as the leader of the spice-gimp bum-burglars and though I’ve never assumed clapper status of any persuasion – as far as I’m aware – and I scoff at the notion of the real fans, I’m intrigued by the True Fan sect. I’ve also been variously called a prick, cnut, twat and perhaps worst of all a Chelsea fan, with massive self-confirmation issues – whatever that means.
Billy Legit Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:51 pm
What’s wrong with clapping and being happy whilst doing it?
melcyid Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:05 pm
seeing as you cant wait to boo HH,I think that you may be a closet spice girl. when are you going to come out.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:12 pm
I thought that comment was still awaiting moderation. What the hell has happened to HH today anyway? Say what you like about the bloke, I certainly do, but things get a bit weird around here when he isn’t around.
melcyid Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:15 pm
you have a HH fixation.why do you want to know where the hell he is while hes not on this blog.
ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Because I have comments pending his moderation for swears for one. Because I have an HH fixation for two. Oh, you already said that one.
melcyid Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:09 pm
He might be reporting a stalker to the old bill.
ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:31 pm
No he can’t be. He was in his house all morning, he only left for 15 minutes and came back with a pint of milk and loo roll. He’s been inside ever since, unless there’s a back exit I haven’t found yet.
melcyid Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:50 pm
are you sure it was 15 minutes? not 14 or sixteen how do you know? what is your point of reference?was the milk in a bag and the loo roll if that was in the bag are you guessing or surmising did you see him purchase the goods or is it just your opinion?How do you know it was him?Does he look like Peter Sellars or is that just an avatar?
Spurstacus Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:59 pm
@ LLL. You leave HH his toilet roll and back exit alone.
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:15 pm
The eyeballer is looking forward to Sunday’s game – it’s a great chance to get some positivity within the camp.
If adebayor comments are true, then he is a typical ballbag selfish footballer. The eyeballer could understand if he was visibly bursting a gut, cajolling the lads, leading by example – but no,on last night’s evidence he is as useful as a chocolate fireman.
The eyeballer starting XI for Sunday:
Ddoris
vertongen Dawson Faulkner
Bale Sandro Carroll dembele Lennon
Dempsey Defoe
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ELELEL Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:20 pm
The EL to the EL ee-el likes the line-up. Our full backs are shite anyway, let’s do away with them.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 9:31 pm
What Richard Faulkner, Baron Faulkner of Worcester?
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melcyid Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:18 pm
there us a Faulker University in missisippi,perhaps its one of under armours protege’s for our american investors. Or there are quite a few Faulkeners in the telephone directory,perhaps it’s one of them.
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:04 pm
The Billy…….erm Legitster thinks it will be a turgid 0-0, 1-1 borefest with a massive ruck between our mob and theirs before and after the match. There will also be more booing at the Lane than at a Boo Radleys gig. AVB will also chin Big Fat Sam, leading to his arrest and a subsequent custodial sentence which in turn will lead to Levy appointing Sparky Twat as interim manager until the end of next season. Whilst this is all going on Pound Sterling will crash before the Euro leading to the suicide of David Camerooon- Nadine Dorries will replace him. Spurs will finish 3rd.
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melcyid Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:00 am
like 3 rd
like avb chinnung Big Sam
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 7:22 am
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November 23rd, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Losing to L’Arse was bad. Losing to Spam would be a nightmare for an ex-Essex boy.
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notsohotspurs Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Losing to Spam would be a nightmare because it would confirm, what everybody has a sneeky suspicion about.
We are shit.
Ziggy Zig Aaaagh.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Yeah, your moniker has come back to haunt us.
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melcyid Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:59 pm
I heard a story about the porn barons the other day from a very close source,it was too disguting to repeat but in the wake of Lord Mc Alpine suing bloggers etc I’ll keep my trap shut.
I wont suggest at this juncture that we tear em a new one but Lets beat the pikeys for decencys sake.
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:06 pm
They are nonces. There , i said it!
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November 23rd, 2012 at 10:30 pm
You’s lot keep having to be in either the “Arrry geezer”gang or the “AVB Pensive and thoughtful” gang don’t you…
“My Dad’s bigger than your Dad” etc Come on, give it a break.
Harry did a good job regardless of if you like him or not, AVB sort of hasn’t really yet has he? No need to crucify the bloke, he has his methods and who knows it may all click into place soon.
I’m just bored with all this “Harrysaggycockneywankerchops” or “CluelessboringnotebookAVBtwat” stuff. Flippin’ A-B comparisons between the two is stereotyping of the lowest order.
It is quite amusing watching the increasingly desperate excuses for AVB from some of those that just wanted Harry out and anyone including the tea lady would have been preferable to him!!
I think AVB just needs to get through this period, if he does perhaps we’ll see the longer term plan come together. Just dunno how much time ‘deadly Daniel’ will give him though…
You guy’s do my nut in… but i loves ya!!
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Frontwheel 2 Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Yeah but what are ya,an AVB or a Troutychops man?
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East Stand Reply:
November 23rd, 2012 at 11:37 pm
I was a pretty ‘Chopsie’… at one time weren’t we all after Inter? I’m waiting to become ‘Notebookiwookie’ but it just ain’t happening yet…
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Hartley Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:14 am
After Inter? We were 4-0 down until wonder boy saved his blushes and then embarrassed the fuck out of them at the Lane, and he tried to offload him…..like he did Taarabt and KPB….for what? Joke Hole, Beckham, Charlie Adam FFS
TMWNN Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:17 am
No. That is bullshit. I hated HR, but VB should (have been) be given support, but after numerous tepid displays, might not the prick Levy be having second thoughts about funding a manager who is currently more miss than hit?
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hoofing Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:06 am
Is qualifiying for the CL attuned to winning a cup or a title? Only for the HR admirers. He won zero at THFC. Nothing. He is history as far as managing the best squads we have had in recent times and still blew a 13 point lead. Thats negligence, the worst manager crime of all apart from calling fams idiots- If you love him start getting a train to the Bush. He has gone ow with his lackys.
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November 23rd, 2012 at 10:34 pm
AVB out! – sorry couldn’t resist.
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November 24th, 2012 at 1:05 am
Oh fack see Rentagob watch online, on iPhone, iPad or selected Android smartphones with the Sky Go app. Download from the iTunes App Store or Google Play.
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:03 am
WE(SPURS) can stop paying saggysandbank his wages.
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November 24th, 2012 at 1:23 am
Over the years I’ve seen stupid chairmen and none more so than the chairman at QPR, but even he is saying that he will be holding the purse strings in January now Rubberchops is on board…..just in case he tries to sign triffic Ryan Nelson from QPR for £8m I guess
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East Stand Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
From earlier post; Joke Hole, Beckham, Charlie Adam
You think he was really in for Cole and Adam? I am of the opinion Spurs feigned interest in those two to get Comolli and Liverpool to move for them and use up what money they had left as they were our main rivals for 4th/5th at the time. I don’t believe there was any serious interest in those two. As for Beckham, that would have been about 3-4 games in the MLS off season, and?
I guess it all fits the ‘Arry’ stereotype as usual… He got us higher in the Premier League twice then anyone else has managed to do, and regardless of if you like him or not as a bloke, i think that counts for something. The same old tired insults about his appearance, accent, things he came out with is just peripheral crap of no significance as far as i can see.
His record with us in terms of league placing stands up as the best in the Premier League era, can you and others not find it within yourself to acknowledge that rather than say things about him i doubt they would actually say to his “saggy” face?
I also back AVB, i think he could be the right man for a long term plan at the club and he needs more time to put it in place, we are in a slightly transitional period at the moment. I’m not going to trot out the same old stereotypes about his notebook or whatever just because we’ve played like a bucket of pig-sick at home to relegation fodder. Let these managers do their job and judge them on their job alone and the circumstances they work in, not on all the press created cliches. We’ve all seen the way they’ve portrayed AVB so far too, it’s all bollocks.
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November 24th, 2012 at 1:34 am
arry is a predator,waits in the wings for a struggling team . starts juggling players with his contacts on merry go round and syphons off cash.leaves the team with big wage bills and a few donkies that he was kind to. but the club is stuck with .couple of seasons then it all kicks off again.
we are going to be inundated with his words of wisdom for a while again.
Short term fix,hes a bit of a placebo really for sure.
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Frontwheel 2 Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:45 am
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East Stand Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Yeah spot on, got Harry sussed out there haven’t you…
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November 24th, 2012 at 4:40 am
playing best football in the league is a placebo. another arm chair footy general. watch Arry on January 8th vs A Very Boring dwarf. You’ll see it for yourself again. 2 shots on goal vs second team Lazio who managed 15. Outplayed outgunned and outclassed. Again. As long as you dont boo and keep chewing dwarf socks we should be in good shape.
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Mabelode The Faceless Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Do you think you can find a pair of dwarf socks to fit me?
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melcyid Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
please send me your season ticket so I can give it to my grandson ,then you can join the redcrapp show now appearing for this season at Loftus Rd
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November 24th, 2012 at 5:07 am
only 13 or so points till we’re safe from the drop
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 7:44 am
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November 24th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Seems to me all Harry’s detractors actually hate the man rather than the job that he was doing which I find insane when it means your putting your personal feelings towards an individual before the success of your club. I believe there’s an element of Levy doing this in Harry’s sacking… Fair enough if he had Carlo Ancellotti waiting in the wings to take over but stupid and childish for a man with Levys business acumen. I myself have no personal grievance with AVB he seems a decent man but he also seems to over complicate things and out of his depth.
Another thing that keeps being targeted at HR was the signings of Nelson and Saha , from all that I’ve read and listened to in the media they were more Levys signings than HR’s the famous drop from 3rd to an suicidal 4th may be layed at Levys door for not buying a world class player or so in the January window.
It’s not AVB’s fault he’s in charge but it is Levys and he must carry the can for this just as he has carried the plaudits for all his good work during his reign as chairman.
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Statue Arry you old dog
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:23 am
MOTD,Ukraine,QPR in a week.One cute Barrow Boy.
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East Stand Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Spot on. Signings are Levy’s under AVB and Harry’s under Harry as far as the Harry haters are concerned.
Both managers have been undermined in the transfer market to make sure the books balance. That’s why Levy wants a DOF who could do a better job than him at it. AVB will work with a DOF and is part of the reason why he was employed in my opinion. Do people realise that transfers have been mainly board decisions for about 10 years now at Spurs? Its the way ENIC have run us.
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November 24th, 2012 at 9:27 am
You don’t think the Ukranian job was perhaps used by HR and his agent to speed the QPR board do you?
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TMWNN Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 10:27 am
Of course it was. That’s exactly the way the shit operates.
He effectively twisted the knife already in Hughes’ back. He’s got form in this area, ask Billy Bonds.
He’s already giving the job of staying up the ‘miracle’ tag, when in reality, they’re only 5 points from safety with two thirds of the season to go.
I hope the scumbag fails miserably, but his insidious nature when using the media will probably see him coming up smelling of roses come what may.
Grubby little charlatan dripping in snake oil.
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East Stand Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Go and have a lie down…
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November 24th, 2012 at 11:15 am
I dont remember him coming out and going “ooo i want the ukraine job”. I think he was asked about it and he said its a t’riffic job, like he would answer any question.
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
He’s just been interviewed on Radio Five and said that had he not taken the QPR job he would have taken the Ukraine gig.
Personally, I don’t buy that for a second.
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November 24th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2237693/Harry-Redknapp-takes-QPR-job-Mark-Hughes-sacked.html
Back in his natural environment.
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TMWNN Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
His natural environment is under a rock in a snake pit.
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November 24th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
no doubt old adel is laughing his nuts off
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November 24th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Some people obviously gutted HR has got another Premier League job. Some obviously don’t like this weird he seems to have been given. That’s all pretty irrelevant, if QPR end up 2 points behind us or whatever that’ll be just another “Evil Arry fluke” obviously…
Harry hatters are dreading going to Loftus Road… The swearing on here if we lose will be phenomenal!!!
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November 24th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
I meant ‘haters’, Luton Town have nothing to do with it!!
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November 24th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
The fawning resumes in earnest. Redknapp on TV not doing too well at keeping the cat in the bag about being contacted by QPR before Hughes was sacked.
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East Stand Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
What does any of this have to do with Spurs? I’m sure there’s a Harry baiting blog you can find, let some steam off there perhaps?
Some of us don’t want to hear character assassinations of either our former or current manager. What is your point? H.R is QPR’s manager now, not ours. Chill out for goodness sake, it seems you have a problem with him being given the job despite them being winless and rooted to the bottom. Should they have kept Hughes then and decide that the unemployed Redknapp should be overlooked until anyone but H.R came along?
Ok, you hate Harry and you want the world to know… I couldn’t give a shit and i don’t know what your point is. I’m more interested in Tottenham not Harry or flippin’ QPR. Stop being sad!
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November 24th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Harry could well,and probably will do well at QPR but for me he was too much the used car salesman.
We may very well have the accountant now.
Its not perfect.
Just like Levy has to find players that are value,he also has to find managers that are value.Its the way the club works now.Maybe later it will be different when the seats increase.
Its like looking for pearls in oysters.
Its a crap shoot.
Its a problem for any idealist like me.
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November 24th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Pretty spot on Ronnie, AVB’s face fits as far as the board are concerned. I doubt that makes him un-sackable but he’s certainly
a ‘company man’ and not a maverick.
As i’ve said before, i support AVB and also rate Harry as more than the one dimensional thicket his detractors make him out to be. Yes he’s old-skool but his league record with us was not, and has not been equalled in what 25 years? If that still makes him nothing more than some sort of Arthur Daley chancer, what exactly does that say about our club?
If you don’t like him as a person (how anyone can even form an opinion of a human being without actually meeting them and spending time with them i don’t know) that’s one thing. However, to dismiss his achievements with us is clearly blinkered and a form of denial based on a dislike if the man and not rationality.
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Lordy Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Spot on ,but some people would rather spout venom than admit they were wrong, if it wasnt for him we wouldnt have been 13 points clear in the first place. Still finished 4th only got knocked out of CL coz AVB got the sack then we employ him, incredible only bloody Tottenham
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November 24th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
melcyid, are you feeling ok? we all watching shit football with a broken team It’s about the team for me. we had a team with Arry for you and many others here its about carsalesman vs accountant where dwarf is more to your middle class palette it’s not about the game or the club. perception is reality. AVBeee out!
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East Stand Reply:
November 24th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
“for you and many others here its about carsalesman vs accountant where dwarf is more to your middle class palette it’s not about the game or the club” – My sentiments exactly.
I hope AVB gets it together but in the meantime, slagging either him off or Redknapp has nothing to do with anything.
And i also agree that the nastiness towards H.R is largely (although not exclusively) based on snobbery. It’s based on this idea that if somebody has a better education they they are going to automatically be more able in every situation in life. How on earth can football be an environment where you would have that opinion? You are either good at your job or not good at your job in any given situation, that’s all.
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November 25th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
outline and and eaststand.I am from working class stock and dont have a piece of paper to my name.Left school at 14.arry gives us a bad name with his dodgy ways.he is a bad egg.
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November 26th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Left school at 16 so i guess that makes me posh… I then i eventually went in to further education after a few years, which must make me pretty much aristocratic!!
Everyone has their opinion, as i said it’s not exclusively down to snobbery but i think his image is largely press created, as is AVB’s. It was the same for Venables, another Barra Boy cartoon character and not a football manager to be taken seriously.
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