Posted on Tuesday, 13th November 2012 by Harry Hotspur

And so dear reader the pitfalls of consuming cheese prior to turning in.

Longtime Tottingham target Leandro Dime Bar told Sao Paulo radio station UOL: “Every footballer dreams of playing at a club such as Real Madrid, but I am only 23 and there is plenty of time to take that step forward.

“Now is not the moment to be thinking of playing in Europe, I just want to continue improving and scoring goals.

“I have a contract with Porto Alegre, I love it here and do not feel the need to move away right now, although it is obvious that the day will come when I will leave Brazil to go and play in Europe.”

No sour grapes I promise you but I always felt this transfer speculation was botched together by the player’s agent and a media desperate for the next headline. At least we’ll know not to waste our precious time reading further guff on this guy in January I suppose. 

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183 Responses to “Leandro Damião Has Had A Dream”

  • Hartley Says:

    Leandro……he’s not a yiddo.

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    Hartley Reply:

    He wants to be a galactico….. :-(

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    BrisbaneSpur Reply:

    I want to be a Jedi? Gotta beat Quantity Surveying….

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    Bruxie Reply:

    4 on the trot!

    Stop it now!

    :winke:

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    BrisbaneSpur Reply:

    Please do! :daumen:

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    Hartley Reply:

    What can I say fellas, I’ve got a gift… :angel:

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  • BrisbaneSpur Says:

    Is it that Levy wil actually make a ‘real’ offer?

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    Stupot Reply:

    Why bother?! kevin phillips still playing?

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    BrisbaneSpur Reply:

    :-D :-D :-D

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    Stupot Reply:

    ;-) gotta laugh brisbane! Maybe we’ll get young kev on the cheap.

    Cecil Gaybody Reply:

    No chance,
    Levy will never pay the going rate.
    We got bargain basement Dempsey.

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    Bruxie Reply:

    We’re even.

    I had a run of four by sheer fluke last month.

    I hope you’re not losing sleep!

    :cool:

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  • BrisbaneSpur Says:

    PS Ultimately nice swerve from AVB to DL…. You can’t be blamed for that one HH !! :daumen:

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  • LLL Says:

    I think we could have had him in the past 3 or 4 windows but we didn’t offer anything near the amount they wanted (which kept going up as Levy time dragged on).

    I don’t think this was agent talk at all, the selling club itself was quoted repeatedly as saying our offers were short. And if you are suggesting that Levy & Co. were mistakenly led on a wild goose chase for 2 or 3 years because of some ultimately empty chatter from an agent or two, you aren’t really giving them very much credit are you?

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    BrisbaneSpur Reply:

    Told you a ‘DL curve ball’…. HH thought long and hard about that one! :-p

    Off to bed have a great day in the UK !! Hopefully we will have Jose when I awake!

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    BrisbaneSpur Reply:

    PS I agree completely. Got caught up in a world of posting today. I’ll take my medication and all will be fine tomorrow…

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    Harry Hotspur Reply:

    LLL, I appreciate you want AVB, Levy etc dragged in front of their families and shot, but if you are seriously using ’2 or 3 years’ of newspaper articles as a credible death warrant I worry about you.

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    LLL Reply:

    Credible death warrant? AVB and Levy dragged in front of their families and shot? Does the term hyperbole mean anything to you?

    All I want is some logic applied. We were chasing Damiao for 2 or 3 years. You are now suggesting that the whole thing was just some agents leading Levy up the garden path. Which looks rather shameful if true, eh?

    AVB mentioned him a couple of times this year. We were told that Levy sent out his top boys to Brazil to carve out a deal in the last week of the window. Defoe was poised for the exit. In the past few windows we’ve been the number one club linked to him for repeated windows. Please explain what this ‘agent talk’ you vaguely allude to is for? Link a player repeatedly to Spurs as that will definitely get Real Madrid interested? Have you put any thought into this?

    Seems to me that the ‘facts’ available would suggest that we have been chasing a player for a few years who has been moving further away from our budget allowance all the while and is now way beyond us in money and ambition terms.

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    Bobbles Reply:

    Which is, I’m afraid, the way the cookie crumbles.

    Rightly or wrongly Levy wasn’t prepared to take a punt on him for ¢15m (or whatever) when he was a teenager and now you want him shot?

    Some you win, some you lose. Personally I think the lad has no chance of playing for Madrid. We could well get him – but I can’t see him going anywhere until after the world cup.

    LLL Reply:

    No, I don’t want him shot. Why does everyone keep thinking I want everyone shot?

    I’m arguing here with the above post from HH. I don’t think the whole thing was ‘agent’s talk’. I think Leandro could have been a yid but rightly or wrongly Levy wouldn’t stump up the fee – whatever that was at any given time.

    Alspur Reply:

    Maybe it’s the loaded gun you’re carrying and the case of bullets, suspiciously labelled “AVB”…?

    ;)

    Phil McAvity Reply:

    To be fair to LLL he bought the case from someone on here, it had the name ‘Arry scratched out!!

    essexian76 Reply:

    You’re making assumptions as to what consists of a decent offer and offer that we can afford-As with Modric, Real and Chelsea continually offered amounts we felt were not acceptable-same as any club would if they felt they had something worth holding onto?
    Because DL and Tottenham Hotspur are bidding for a player doesn’t automatically mean the selling club should just give in and accept anything we offer.
    When the deal’s straightforward as Dembele’s, was and Siggy’s-it was finalised pretty quickly-in the case of Vertonghen it took longer because of Ajax’s stubbornness not DL’s

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    LLL Reply:

    I’m not really making assumptions – all I’m saying is that whatever we were offering, at any given time, Internaciaonal deemed it short. Seems pretty clear cut to me?

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    BrizzleSpur Reply:

    Yep I agree with that.

    We played hard ball for three years and lost.

    essexian76 Reply:

    It’ll be interesting as to how many ‘dud’ buys you consider SAF has made?..how about Mourinho?, Wenger? or perhaps Burkinshaw? Comolli? if you want to take it closer to home.. Actually I can’t see many posts in August saying how shit Siggy was before we signed him or those showing displeasure over signing Dempsey for that matter either-but Dembele and Verts seem to be OK though-so it’s not all-oh for foresight instead of hindsight-this time last year I’d have been a millionaire

    LLL Reply:

    I personally was wholly underwhelmed with the Dempsey purchase and was very sceptical of the Sig buy – simply because he was coming from a duff team in an inferior league who had been happy to loan him out to a championship level club. And also because he was about to join Swansea with no competition for his signature until Swansea’s manager decamped to Liverpool. And even still, it seemed only when Rodgers tried to then sign him for Liverpool that we took an interest. I did find all that to be quite strange at the time, yeah.

    spurious Reply:

    Leandro’s an absolute bounder. He had the audacity to keep improving, scoring more goals and increasing in value.
    Dempsey would never dream of such behaviour :whistle:

    Alspur Reply:

    LLL – can you explain your comments about Sig, please? (duff team, etc)

    I don’t get it – when we bought him, he’d just played half a season for Swansea, in the Prem, where he’s scored 7 in 18, right?

    Harry hater Reply:

    LLL stop shooting everyone and making assumptions and stop saying what your not even saying cos people on here can see your not saying what your saying!? Save the last bullet for Harry please!

    LLL Reply:

    Alspur – Duff team in a lesser league being Hoffenheim, who loaned him to Swansea.

    Yes, he did OK at Swansea, but not so great that Hoffenheim were in much mood to take him back. Swansea were poised to buy him with apparently no competition from any other team anywhere, before Rodgers left, and then he set about trying to sign him for Liverpool. That seems to be when we became interested.

  • Fonzi Says:

    Was wondering whether Harry Hotspur is still backing AVB with 3 games lost in a row, boring, boring football, uninspired signings in Gyli and Dempsey, no clue on sub decisions, getting rid of quality like VDV & Niko because supposedly they ‘couldn’t run’ as Harry Hotspur put it?

    Trying to sell Hudds and Daws only to come to rely on them now (insisting on playing Gallas ahead of Dawson?).

    Personally I feel thoroughly depressed about the decision to hire AVB, would like to know your thoughts?

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    BrisbaneSpur Reply:

    Yep he certainly is with his bad sounding backing group: Felching, Hartley and melcyid..

    Although HH is distinctly quieter these last couple of days, but his die hard groupies are ‘keeping it real’… :daumen:

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    Harry Hotspur Reply:

    Brisbane, you may be the funniest guy in the youth hostel over there but I’m struggling to see why you use this blog either.

    You accused me -amid your usual idiotic array of exclamation marks and smileys – of disappearing from an argument last week. Try factoring in the time difference and indeed if you are actually worth debating with.

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    Hartley Reply:

    namecheck! :daumen:

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    nipper Reply:

    why is your glass always half empty? We beat Maribor! :-)

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    Harry Hotspur Reply:

    Fonzi,

    If you support Spurs I don’t really care how you go about it. But I do find it rather tedious that you come onto a Spurs blog to crow against the side.

    VDV wasn’t flogged off casually he wanted to go back and the fact he joined the dismal Hamburg even to the most stupid person speaks volumes.

    Niko was elbowed out the door by Arry having been demoralised for seasons on end. You throwing his name into this is a joke. By the time AVB got here the guy was unfit and disinterested.

    If you want to know my thoughts on AVB then there is an archive section in the sidebar.

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    LLL Reply:

    Hamburg aren’t that dismal, they only have 3 less points than us.

    Anyway, you can’t have it both ways. You repeatedly make the point that AVB has a far weaker squad than Redkrapp and and then turn around and write off VDV’s contribution last season.

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    Harry Hotspur Reply:

    I didn’t write his contribution off – where did I say that. Quote me?!

    He went to Hamburg for sentimental reasons. Sylvie Tweeted, ‘time to go home’. Hamburg were inthe relegation zone when he went man.

    Try engaging your brain before desperately seeking out a fast track to an argument. Eh?

    LLL Reply:

    The main line on VDV was that last season he was often a spare part and couldn’t play for more than 10 minutes. This is a line I don’t really disagree with myself. Actually, I’m not sure where you stand after all, perhaps I did jump to a conclusion.

    As for ‘sentimental reasons’, not so sure, I feel that he would have been happy to stay and after all that Levy sanctioned the sale as ‘good business’ for a 29 year old with gammy legs.

    I think business wise it was sound. But reinvesting the money on Sig / Dempsey, business wise, not so sound.

    Moreover, there is a debate to be had about the relative quality of the squad’s at Redknapp and AVB’s disposal. You have certainly argued that AVB is playing with a dud hand in comparison. But I can’t really see, Modric aside, what we have lost?
    And if he does have a weaker squad, surely that has something to do with his and Levy’s transfer dealings?

  • LLL Says:

    What I would quite like for someone to explain (without too many insults to the people of Bulgaria if possible) is why on God’s earth we went shopping at Fulham on deadline day when Utd had sent Berbatov away with a packed lunch and a one-way train ticket to London?

    Seriously, 5 goals and 3 assists in 6 appearances, and can anyone say they are surprised? He is the 2nd best CF in the league and he cost them 10 bob in old money. Meanwhile we were too busy picking up a ‘bargain’ dump truck.

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    BrisbaneSpur Reply:

    I raised this the day it happened. I can forgive and forget for those stats (I’m cheap)…. Maybe i’d even like AVB a little more right now?? :sick:

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    C.O.T.I Reply:

    F**k Berbarat. He screwed us over and isn’t welcome back at WHL.

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    Eyeball Paul aka The Eyeballer Reply:

    Agreed – F*ck him and the horse he rode in on…

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    Stupot Reply:

    Berbatov would have been amazing in our team. Shame he left to be misfit at Man ure and not a legend at the Lane. Would like to see a forthright bid for klass huntelaar but I can’t see our testicle light board going for it, sadly.

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    essexian76 Reply:

    Maybe after leaving in such acrimonious circumstances Berba wouldn’t have considered returning to the Lane?-especially knowing how Keane was received and not forgetting the treatment Ghaly got? it mean eating a huge plate of humble pie on Berba’s part and do you honestly think he’s the sort of player who’d admit he was wrong? After all did SAF say he thought Berba was on his way to Spurs?

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    LLL Reply:

    I think that he would have preferred us to Fulham, which itself constitutes a portion of humble pie being quite a step down from Utd. And to be honest, do you really think the haters wouldn’t switch up just as soon as he had banged in 5 goals in 6 games? Keane wasn’t universally welcomed because the finance of selling him for a ludicrous amount of money only to give over half of it back 3 months later looked ill-advised – and most importantly, because he was not the same player on the pitch. Whereas Berbatov would have made a difference and buying a player for 4m who you sold for 33m is a lot easier to swallow.

    SAF did say that, perhaps he was just on the wind up, or perhaps just as likely Levy was thinking about it and perhaps went for Dempsey as a ‘politically’ safer option. We may never know, but we do know who came out better off!

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    essexian76 Reply:

    No, Sorry LLL I don’t buy it in anyway shape or form-I couldn’t see Levy having him back anymore than I could see Berba wanting to come back-and any fan with an ounce of decency and creditability wouldn’t contemplate having him wear the chicken badge ever again.I loved the guy(hated Keane mind), but there are ways of doing things and he deserves nothing but contempt-How many ‘prisoners’ do you know who willingly want to go back to gaol?

    Bruxie Reply:

    It was bad enough when Keane came back.

    Sulky would have been scared to come back after that precedent.

    essexian76 Reply:

    That was my point Bruxie-but it’s not a stick to beat anyone over the bonce with is it?

    LLL Reply:

    I don’t think there are any really loyal footballers these days, except perhaps for those already playing for the best clubs on the highest wages. So on that basis, what happened with Berbatov, I can’t really get too worked up about it. Can you really blame anyone for wanting to double their wages and win league titles, FA cups and Champions League medals in the process? Really??

    Let’s face it, he was perhaps most responsible for Jol getting the sack. And Jol doesn’t seem to have any hard feelings. The days of sentimentality are long gone, football is a business and a career for footballers, managers and the clubs themselves.

    essexian76 Reply:

    Of course not-’but it’s not what you do it’s the way that you do it!’ and he crossed the line-and sold us down the Swannie with his timing and his actions-he refused to play for the club FFS! He lied about going to City for an interview- and we ended up shit creek without a paddle-and you’d have him back!!!

    LLL Reply:

    Well, Berbatov may have led us up shitcreek, but in that case it was Levy who didn’t supply us with a paddle. It’s not for Berbatov to replace himself. Levy didn’t have to take Utd’s money, and didn’t have to get involved in an obvious game of brinkmanship (saying ‘not for sale’ but obviously having a figure in mind). And I guess you could argue that he had in some fashion made some contingency planning by buying Pav, who cost about the same as Berba had originally after all.

    It was a case that Berbatov wanted to go to Utd, you agree we can’t really blame him, but that he wasn’t going to be sold easily, for reasons we should also understand (our best player / prime asset). So you can apportion some blame to Utd for playing stubborn on the money, and Levy for brinkmanship. Meanwhile, the fans ultimately suffer the consequences of all the latter parties actions.

    essexian76 Reply:

    Once again your making assumptions and then calling them facts-If Levy said not for sale, at what point would you consider it common-sense holding onto a player that went on strike to get a move to Utd?
    You’d be up in arms as would the board and shareholders-Levy had no viable option available, same as the Campbell situation, when I attended a shareholders meeting and Alan Sugar gave his chequebook and pen to a supporter and said ‘ here you go-you try!’ You’re so blinkered by your opinions sometimes that you can never see things from any other perspective than your own-I’m sure if your partner came back with an expensive pair of shoes, but alas no food shopping you’d be so very understanding?
    I’m not sure what you think you bought into when choosing Spurs-but we’re not Chelsea or Utd and the fact we’re even competing at this level is down to ENIC and no-one else LLL- and that’s a fact mate

    LLL Reply:

    Well, you can’t have it both ways either. You say that Levy meant it when he said ‘not for sale’ but that he then had ‘no choice’ but to sanction a sale. If you can’t make a stand and stick to it, what purpose in making a stand. A better tact would be – Berbatov? 35m and he’s yours. No less. End result is the same, no? Might have happened quicker and been less damaging to the club. Maybe.

    ENIC haven’t really put in any cash, and their aim appears to be to eventually take money out of it. Our turnover is the 6th highest in the country. It makes sense that we should be operating at about that level. If Joe Lewis wanted to try and push us on he could invest extra funds – he has several billion in his own pockets after all. I’m not saying that he should or shouldn’t do, but to suggest that they are our saviours and godsend is a bit strange imo. They are a corporation who hold the club as a financial interest.

    LLL Reply:

    And what I mean by we should be operating about the level of 6th, we are and we can do better than that on the basis that the 4th and 5th highest grossing clubs, Arsenal have suffered from a lack of investment due to refinancing caused by the new ground, and Liverpool have suffered from poor use of their own funds in terms of transfers. Which means the door to 4th place has been left ajar for the past couple of seasons.

    essexian76 Reply:

    First up-the clues in the title, of course ENIC will sell on-but to be dismissive of what they’ve done for us is quite frankly unfounded. Joe Lewis isn’t a football fan, let alone a Spurs fan and is only in it for a profit-nothing revolutionary there then?
    DL not only has his own ENIC board to consider, until recently had those at THFCPLC and their shareholders as well, so it’s pretty naive of you to think everything rests solely on DL’s say so alone?
    The point I tried to make was simply-DL didn’t want to sell either Keane or Berbatov,in fact BOTH teams Liverpool and Utd were penalised for tapping them up, if you recall?-Berbatov’s actions forced Levy’s hand-and he reluctantly had no choice, other than sell-a mistake and situation he wasn’t going to make again with Modric-as we could hold onto the player because we’re in a better financial state than we were in 08- largely thanks to ENIC….Oh, and I thought we did finish 4th-didn’t we? And finally until there’s a better option and chairman out there, I’d say we’ve got the best by a country mile right now-unless you can think of anyone better that is?

    Bruxie Reply:

    @ Essex.

    No, it isn’t a stick.

    It’s just hardly feasible that a player who so desparately wanted to join a team he thought played football with a smile on their face, could possibly come back to us.

    He played us for mugs. He’ll be happy at Fulham being the big fish.

    Let’s forget him.

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    essexian76 Reply:

    Who?

    Harry Hotspur Reply:

    LLL the comment from Sir Alex was a throw away remark and only a complete gimp would have read it as a revelation that we were negotiating.

    Please.

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    LLL Reply:

    ???

    I’m not relying on SAF’s remark as any kind of proof that we were or weren’t negotiating. I’m saying that the leagues 2nd best CF was available on deadline day for tuppence ha’ppeny and we bought Dempsey. Do you understand?

    As for your insult, I hope Bruxie is taking note and is suitably outraged.

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    Harry Hotspur Reply:

    Of course I understand, but had it occurred to you that Berbatov left The Lane under a ruddy blanket?! He’d been on strike.

    If you seriously imagine for a nanosecond we would have re-hired him you’re nuts.

    LLL Reply:

    If you seriously imagine for a nanosecond we would have re-hired him you’re nuts.

    Why? Business never personal. Ask Martin Jol.

    Bruxie Reply:

    At least you have the grace to realise that it is an insult.

    And you accuse me of point scoring!

    I don’t use the word. It’s demeaning.

    I’m sure HH knows my feeling on the matter.

    But like you, I’m not sure he cares.

    Here we go again.

    :unsure:

    LLL Reply:

    I would suggest that you are naive in the extreme if you believe that Berbatov’s last minute sulk routine would hold any sway over whether or not Levy would rehire him. Even most of the fans, who are far more sentimental than Levy, would have likely welcomed him back. And those who maintain they wouldn’t would quickly change tune if he came in and did for us what he’s done for Fulham.

    Would you take Modric back, let’s say at half price, in January? I know I would, and so would Levy.

    LLL Reply:

    Hiya Brux. Of course it’s an insult, I never said it wasn’t. But I knew you would feel differently about HH using it. Even though the context I used it was directly alluding to you being a sex slave and HH seems to be alluding to something closer to your understanding. I guess we all have double standards, eh?

    essexian76 Reply:

    ‘Sulk routine’-nah mate-that was a disgusting and unforgivable action of low life piece of shite, and I’m sure I’m not alone in thinking it?

    LLL Reply:

    I’m sure you’re not. But as I said, I’m sure if he had come in and knocked some goals in, you’d soon find yourself in the minority.

    essexian76 Reply:

    Hypothetical because it ain’t going happen-and I’m pretty pleased my allegiance and love of all things chicken isn’t going to be compromised again

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  • Paul Says:

    A club in decline, a seriously clueless manager, a penny pinching chairman and a team that gets booed off the pitch every week, why on earth wouldn’t a young and upcoming superstar not want to play for us?

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    Harry Hotspur Reply:

    And know it all supporters that can barely be bothered to boo. You’re right. We’re not a pretty picture.

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    Stupot Reply:

    When a Spurs team put in a 90, yes 90 minute performance that matches the level of intensity and passion from our long suffering home and away support, then our ‘know it all’ contingent will hold their hands up and applaud. Lacklustre performances (please dont harp on about old trafford, cheating and ref blunders robbed us of a winning result there)and the boards efforts not matching the fans when it comes to the players that will take us to the level we SHOULD be at. How many players through the summer did we target?? Any of them Clint Dempsey lol. Last minute action from an ‘excellent businessman like Mr Daniel Levy just wasn’t good enough. We seemed to be getting somewhere and now with a manager who seems to be lacking serious character. Find it hard to be on his side and root for him when he drops Defoe three days after he just scored a hat trick. Tactical genius or not, Stooopid.

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    JonnyHotspur Reply:

    I thought dropping Defoe and playing Ade away at the champions was the smartest selection he has made as manager?

    I must also be stooopid…

    LLL Reply:

    @JonnyHostpur

    Me too! Ha!

    Alspur Reply:

    Ade had to play at City. Hat-trick or no hat-trick…

    Stupot Reply:

    Stoopid tha lota ya. Defoe is on form.

    LosLorenzo Reply:

    Scoring a hattrick in one game against Slovienians hardly qualifies as “on form”.

    Alspur Reply:

    On form???? If one league goal in the last 5 matches is “on form”, I’d hate to see him when he’s out of form…

    …and it’s not like he laid on a whole host of goals for other players, during that time, either, is it??

    Stupot Reply:

    On form means scoring 3 goals in the previous match, sure Ade may have been most peoples choice but we needed defoe to take a few greedy shots on the day. Ade would have been great to bring on. You always fear past players coming on against you no? Impact sub. How many games has Ade started this term? And in such a big match. Defoe all the way with Ade on in the 70th. Shit em up. AVB DONE WRONG. His team selections are limited with key players still out but on the tactical front i’m streets ahead. 3 goals in his last match even against crippled mongolions with buck teeth, JD”s on the team sheet.

  • Bruxie Says:

    All this talk of AVB/DL and the balls up in the summer makes you wonder.

    January will be a defining period for displaying ambition and a recognition of the shortcomings of the squad.

    Dempsey and Siggi need to step up or face a grim future. There’s a couple of others who might find themselves in the “rotation only” pool.

    I would hope that the targets are sorted by now and that the early signings will take place.
    Somehow though, I think it will be a mix of both early signings and last minute deals.

    We have to make at least three top class signings to launch the season. We lose another month – as well as August – if we procrastinate until the end of the window, waiting for the price to come down.

    If we haven’t acted by the end of the first week in January – we’ll be following the usual DL pattern.

    :-(

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    Alspur Reply:

    I could’ve sworn we/you said this, last January, hahaha…

    (Makes me feel they’re taking us for mugs – they wouldn’t be, would they?! :D )

    Anyway, let’s hope this year is significantly more inspiring than last year… COYS

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    Bruxie Reply:

    You are, of course, correct.

    Erickson and De Jong from Ajax. Huntelaar.

    Let’s go Dutch.

    But they’ll need to be out of the ECL.

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    Alspur Reply:

    So, we have to rely on the Blue Mancs dropping points against their remaining CL oppo…

    …shouldn’t be too hard to envisage, seeing as they’re practically out of it… might field weakened teams and roll over… here’s hoping, anyway…

    essexian76 Reply:

    Oooh,a dressing room loaded with Dutch players-that’ll be good for team moral when the chips are down!

    Hot_Spur Reply:

    Nah, Belgians are in fashion at the moment.

    Alspur Reply:

    Ooooooooohhh… Fellaini: now, that would be nice…

    Can you imagine Sandro, Dembele & Fellaini in MF – we’d murder most team by sheer brute force, alone!!! :D

  • Harry Hotspur Says:

    A word to the wise. The idea of a Spurs blog is of course to discuss the bad and the good. In fact without the bad it would probably be really dull.

    But readers posting endless ‘I told you so’ comments (10 games in) are giving me a headache.

    If we were in the same boat as QPR I could understand it and would be as cheerless toward this manager as I was the last one.

    But until that doomsday scenario happens outside of the fevered minds of the naysayers then I will remind everyone this is a Spurs blog and not a waiting room for vultures.

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    BrizzleSpur Reply:

    :daumen:

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    Hartley Reply:

    Vulture number 3 please…..

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  • the man from room five Says:

    Well that’s that then. Time to throw in the towel.I’m off to a darkened room with a large Jameson and a loaded revolver.

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    Harry Hotspur Reply:

    Leave the door ajar.

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    Spurstacus Reply:

    Jenna or Clive?

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    Phil McAvity Reply:

    Bald muff or bald head? It’s a tough choice.

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  • Old Joe Says:

    Chin up lads. We’ve got a nice early saturday kick off in Islington to look forward to. Last time we had that we were 10pts clear of them, 2-0 up and cruising…..

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    Stupot Reply:

    LAST TIME WE WERE AT THE EMPTYCRATES I SERIOUSLY BELIEVED THIS CLUB WAS GOING TO CHALLENGE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. THE F.A DISTRACTED OUR DUMB MANAGER. THE REST THEY SAY…

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  • BrizzleSpur Says:

    Sometimes when I read peoples comments on here, I get the mental picture of cats floating down a river in a sack, scratching each others eyes out.

    I’d love it if we could discuss something other than AVB and how clueless/brilliant he is.

    I think we’re playing ‘a bit sh*t’ because we don’t have very good players and this Damiao debacle puts it all into perspective for me.
    We either can’t afford these players or we don’t have enough faith in our scouts or both. Either way if you look at our latest signings they’re not exactly very inspiring. Dembele is the only big player we bought, he had a buy out clause within our budget, textbook. We took a punt on Vert and sig and Vert turned out to be a great signing. Sig not so much. Dempsey… nah, he’s a good squad player but you’d be stupid to pin your hopes of CL qualification on that type of player.

    Player acquisitions must improve somehow. You can’t keep changing the coach and expecting him to turn water into wine.

    If we had a real goal machine or a talisman I could look at the coach and ask why he isn’t doing more with what he’s got. That simply isn’t the case.

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    essexian76 Reply:

    Nice one Brizzle ;-)

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  • Ade Says:

    Ref our current position.

    As in tennis the first 30 points are not as important as the last one. You win that one my friend and you can happily lose the first 30.

    This is a process that takes time. If AVB took over like for like some of your arguements might have substance. He didnt so they dont.
    Those that are constantly on here fighting with the guy who gives you the platform to moan then get a grip, this will take time and yes your opinion is as valid as HH’s but post an opinion not a stake in the ground for a fight.

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    Harry Hotspur Reply:

    Excellently put.

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    LLL Reply:

    Those that are constantly on here fighting with the guy who gives you the platform to moan then get a grip,

    Erm. It’s the internet. You know how that works, right? You are suggesting that we should all be grateful to a bloke who obviously enjoys getting on his cyber soap box and having his moment in the internet limelight and we should placidly agree with him even when he’s talking a load of old bollocks, simply because he has a comments section? :blink:

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    borris Reply:

    Fuckin hell mate. You love a ruck. Are you a lawyer?.. Its getting boring.

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    LosLorenzo Reply:

    “we should placidly agree with him ”

    Patently untrue in my experience. If it were, you would have been banned ages ago, no? Me too, for that matter.

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    LLL Reply:

    Yah, but that’s what the bloke is saying. You see?

    LosLorenzo Reply:

    Wow, I should have read that more closely.

    “we should placidly agree with him [...] simply because he has a comments section?”

    Uhmmm… Doesn’t the very existence of the comments section indicate a willingness to allow others to voice their opinions?

    You been drinking today LLL? Even you don’t usually suffer from thinkthing this fuzzy…

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    LLL Reply:

    ???

    I’m not having a go at HH you turkey, I’m taking issue with Ade above who seems to be saying that we should all be grateful to HH for having the grace to add a comments section under his daily splurge and we should treat it with great respect accordingly. If you know how to use this fantastic and most generous comments section and follow threads, I’m sure this would be clear to you?

    Alspur Reply:

    I don’t think Ade’s referring to you, LLL – I think he’s referring to those who take the opportunity to pour abuse on the author.

    Debate, yes; abuse, no – was my take on it, anyway…

    LosLorenzo Reply:

    Missed a beat. Thought you were implying HH demanded consensus, ‘or else’. That’s not what you were saying at all.

    BrizzleSpur Reply:

    Debate, yes; abuse, no – was my take on it, anyway…

    Correctamondo.

  • chiversmetimbers Says:

    when his name first came up we had a look at the videos and I think I described him as “a bit like Pav, but runs around a bit more” he didn’t exactly look special though. Yeah he had a good Olympics but I bet Emile Heskey would look pretty good in that team too…I doubt he will ever play for Real Madrid

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    Harry Hotspur Reply:

    The videos were indeed less than enthralling.

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    LLL Reply:

    Well, if he’s really that crap then I’m sure Real Madrid won’t be interested anyway so maybe we can go back in for him. Result!

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  • jolsgonemental Says:

    Does anyone care about this fella?

    He is not as good as Ade or Defoe.

    He has got as much chance of playing for Real as Taarabt has.

    AvB out.

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  • JayMon Says:

    Surely signing for us will be a fast track to Real Madrid anyway.

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    Phil McAvity Reply:

    Kudos!! :daumen:

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  • Aidy-J Says:

    ah yes the midweek moan from some, still brightens up my day, I don’t like moaning, i’m a bit 50-50 I was dissapointed with the tic tacs on Sunday, bringing off Ade was farsicle he was without a doubt one of our best players along with Sandro. When the final whistle blew I was obviously dissapointed but after the game last year I was tearful, why this shift in emotional input? Maybe because we’re not doing badly with a depleted team and I didn’t expect us to win, maybe my standards have dropped and I’m hoping rather than expecting before each game. I will however be expecting a much improved performance on Saturday, no Dempsey and Ade and Defoe if fit with Ade in the Dempsey role (has anybody told him what that is yet). Either way we have to step it up and resist the standing off when in front. For the record I would have taken Berbasulk back and was quite exited when Sky Sports said we were in talks but then again we were running out of options. I hope real sign Damaiou then can we have Benzema or Higuain? but resist selling Bale, without him at the moment we’re looking a bit well 7th placey. COYS

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    Mark Reply:

    It might have something to do with the fact we ended up with 4 centre backs in defence, a full back playing out of position and 2 defensive midfielders, that’s 7 out of 10 players defenders, that people moan. Does AVB actually know we are supposed to try and score in the opposition net not just defend our own!

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    BrizzleSpur Reply:

    We have almost no options in attack it’s scary. The best players we have are all flipping defenders. Thats the squad mate.

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  • LLL Says:

    Leandro’s only scored 1 goal in 10 games this season so more than likely the ‘agent talk’ is the references to Real Madrid.

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    LLL Reply:

    tell a lie, I can’t read stats, those are his international goals, not his Internacional goals

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    Alspur Reply:

    He’s scored 24 goals in 39 club matches in 2012…

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  • Hartley Says:

    Just for the record in regards to Berba and how his transfer was worked out. At the time of his sale to Fulham, Yanited valued him at £10m which was in fact the ammount they still owed us for him…We wanted Dembele who had a buy out clause of £6m, we took Dembele and Fulham paid Yanited £4m for Berba who then passed it straight back to us, we wrote off the balance of £6m still owed by Yanited, everybody happy….

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    Mark Reply:

    United valued him at £10 million but as Berba said on his website Ferguson would except £5 million and told Berba that is what they valued him at.

    From what I hear, United offered to buy Dembele in instalments and we offered £15 million in one go so they sold him to us.

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    essexian76 Reply:

    Except LLL perhaps :shifty:

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    Hartley Reply:

    and BrisbaneSpur….

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    LLL Reply:

    Yes, because somehow we still ended up with Dempsey.

    Where’d you get these figures out of interest Hartley? It was widely quoted that Dembele’s buy out was 15m for a start… The rest seem confidently precise. Are you secretly a football agent?

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    Hartley Reply:

    Yes that’s me….you can call me Eric Hall if you like……except I got one vital detail wrong, it wasn’t Dembele, it was Dempsey…….’Monster’!

    essexian76 Reply:

    Bubalah,Bubalah where for art thou Bubalh?

  • Johns Says:

    First 100th!!!!

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  • Mark Says:

    If you of course believe what a player says and don’t take it for what it is, PR to keep the club and fans happy.

    Such quotes from 99% of players are meaningless.

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  • Chirpy Says:

    Sure, there’s long way to go season-wise but thus far I have not really enjoyed watching any Spurs performance as much as I did in recent years – and I remain sceptical as to whether I want to watch what I think AVB has in mind long-term.
    I like AVB’s passion and candour (in interview) but his cautious conservative selection and tactics (particularly at home) suggests to me a profound lack of understanding of our club and its footballing tradition (assuming he gives a shit) or, on occasion, what is required to win games in this league with the squad available to him.
    I hope he/we start to win games with a flurry – Emptycrates would be a great place to begin.
    COYS

    Ultimately his appointment (and Redknapp’s departure) was always a risk, and, for me at least, should the AVB ‘project’ fail it is Levy that must accept responsibility – particularly as his transfer window strategy has yet again been a significant contributory factor to our poor start/s, not to mention failure to secure the required (i.e. first choice) players in good time, if at all.
    The consequences for us (in terms of player retention and attraction) should we not achieve a top-four place, no matter how un/realistic that is with this squad, are potentially dire.

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    jolsgonemental Reply:

    Instead of booing, maybe renditions of boring boring tottenham.

    Everyones happy. Constructive chanting, no booing.

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    LosLorenzo Reply:

    Beats the living hell out of booing. Not sure I’m quite there yet myself, but I wouldn’t blame those who are. I’m not sure “constructive” is the right word, but something close to it.

    On par with “Bale, he plays on the left”. Not that it helped back then. In the end we needed to get rid of ‘Arry to fix that problem (more or less).

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    Alspur Reply:

    When Dembele’s actually played, I think we’ve successfully and generally pretty good to watch…

    Villa (w)
    Panathanaikos (d)
    United (w)
    QPR (w)
    Lazio (d)
    Reading (w)

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    LLL Reply:

    Call it nit-picking but The QPR game was rotten. The big fat greek draw was dull, so was the Lazio game, and the Utd wine we were simply wretched in the 2nd half.

    Reading was our best game. But it was Reading. Villa was OK. But it was Villa.

    LLL Reply:

    Utd wine? I’ve never tasted Ferguson’s much remarked Chateau du Visage Jambon. I meant the win of course.

    Alspur Reply:

    QPR first half was rotten; second half, much improved. Greek game we controlled to the extent that it was a walk in the park. Then, they scored…

    Lazio we were awesome, but the ball wouldn’t go in (actually, it did, but was wrongly ruled out – twice, I think..?)

    United was a game of two halves: an awesome display of attacking verve and a tin-hats on, man-the-defences, park-the-bus attempt to overturn a 20 year hoodoo, in the second (actually, just the last 30 mins…)

    We were unbeaten and played some great and some good stuff… IMHO… :)

    essexian76 Reply:

    Aaah,that’ll be a Lineker ’89 vintage I’d wager LLL?
    Bloody good year doncha know

    LLL Reply:

    I think ‘Come On You Spurs’ with a slightly more disapproving, tut-tut tone might work best.

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  • Chirpy Says:

    excellent idea JGM

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  • xildnparadise Says:

    Think injuries are currently killing us as there is no squad rotation besides missing key figures….

    Note that the recent tailspin completely coincides with Dembele going down….

    There is no creative movement from the center of the midfield… Love Hudd’s effort but he scares no one from box to box… Truly believe he’s more suited to a Route 1 team.

    Sandro’s game is all effort so even rested, we need PNB back as cover as Livermore has brought back visions of the J word.

    Besides that, Jan is doing the job of three men without BAE and The Bull!!! He’s knackered….

    Walker has been exposed becuase there is much better balance when BAE is on the other side…

    Speaking of balance, based on current man power, should keep the 442…. Much scarier with Abby and Dafoe up front…. Which in theory should open things up for the wingers…

    Bottom line, we are nothing without more creativity in the center. If no Dembele on Saturday, do we hand the keys to Carroll??

    Agree 100% that I’m conpletely disapointed in Sigi and Dempsey. Sigi has shown the flashes but is he G2S in disguise? Dempsey without Dembele has been nothing short of a waste….

    Can’t wait to see the lineup Saturday if the 3 reported injured are out along with Dembele….

    And in regards to the original post about Leandro wanting Real Madrid,,,,, I just wanna be sedated!! COYS

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    Harry Hotspur Reply:

    Best thing I’ve read in ages.

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    Alspur Reply:

    Re-posting this here, cos it backs up a lot of what you say:

    When Dembele’s actually played, I think we’ve successfully and generally pretty good to watch…

    Villa (w)
    Panathanaikos (d)
    United (w)
    QPR (w)
    Lazio (d)
    Reading (w)

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    StrappingYoungLad Reply:

    I find it scary that some are saying all will be well when Dembele returns.
    Great player but come on.

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    Alspur Reply:

    Things improved hugely when he started playing for us and the stats don’t lie. He and Sandro in MF could be colossal.

    The margins between winning and losing are pretty slim – he, Ade & BAE could be the difference (plus, having Parker in reserve…)

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    StrappingYoungLad Reply:

    The stats do lie though. Those stats are from a few games, not a full season.
    As I said great player and important but personally I am not pinning all my hopes on him.
    We need more creativity and class in CM to be competitive for top 4.

    Alspur Reply:

    Agreed, but they’re the only games he’s played in!!! I can’t give you any more stats, cos there aren’t any… :)

    Ronnie Wolman Reply:

    I think we havent played well in one game.
    Very little of any flow.
    Yes lots of injuries and it also takes time to gel but anything else is propa or impropaganda

  • Summerspur Says:

    I bags we get Abu qatada in as manager . He’s got a bigger beard

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  • rennix Says:

    Forget AVB… the buck (as mentioned before) doesn’t stop there.

    While Levy is in charge we will always be ‘also-rans’.

    Because he doesn’t speak, people think Levy doesn’t do anything else either. Like buy cr*p players and hire sh*t managers. Clever. Under the radar.

    This is a guy (Levy in case you’ve lost him under the radar) who doesn’t learn from his mistakes: Gross, Santini, Ramos … oh, dear looks like we might be adding AVB. Believe me – I hope not.

    This is a guy (Levy in case you’ve lost him under the radar) whose transfer policy is like someone going to Walthamstow Market, when the stalls are packing up, in the hope of picking up a bargain … it doesn’t matter if he needs or wants it – it’s a bargain, right?

    Probably a sh*it analogy but you get my drift.

    Yeah the buck stops there – with Levy.
    The buck REALLY stops there.
    ACTUALLY stops – there (with Levy in case you’ve lost him under the radar).

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    Stupot Reply:

    Levy has been in the real estate/property market throughout his business life. I think that his valuation of a footballer must NEVER be more than a 14 bedroom mansion in Surrey. Which generally market at 16 million on rightmove etc. No human should cost more than real estate oi.

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  • Nabeel Says:

    Last season, we had a creative midfield, with Luka and VDV, we sold our creativity for Dempsey?

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    StrappingYoungLad Reply:

    No because we was forced to sell.
    Get with the programme

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    Stupot Reply:

    VDV I feel could have been prevented. I thought he cold be captain. Showed great tenacity and i’ll miss him forever. True Yid. Rafa god bless. TTFN

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    essexian76 Reply:

    ‘True Yid’-anymore superlatives Stu like get ‘em while they’re ‘ot-they’re loverly’ The guy was playing you like an old fiddle…he did FA last season-every decent performance we had-he, you’ll note wasn’t playing-you’re confusing a scorer of the odd great goal with a great player-and there’s a world of difference

    essexian76 Reply:

    Oh for heavens sake-there’s an acute difference between selling and wanting to sell-we had no choice with Modric, whether Harry stayed or was sacked, Modric was leaving- As for VDV,10m for a crock wasn’t too shabby a deal-the only departure I’m sad about was Krankie, because many of our current problems would’ve been lessened if he’d stayed-but that’s football

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    Stupot Reply:

    Krankie or VDV?? YOU ARE JOKING RIGHT??

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    essexian76 Reply:

    What you reckon VDV actually played for us last season then?, you’re ‘avin’ a giraffe-he had a years paid leave, mate-flippin’ part timer

    Phil McAvity Reply:

    I’ve got to be honest Essex, I wish VDV was in the team now after seeing the shit we’ve been playing recently.

    essexian76 Reply:

    You wouldn’t have noticed him in it-he’d have stropped off long ago ;-)

  • StrappingYoungLad Says:

    I bet most people wanting him at spurs and singing his praises have never even seen him play.

    “hes brazilian aint he so he must be fackin gud”

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    essexian76 Reply:

    Wasn’t that shitty full back we bought Brazilian?

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    StrappingYoungLad Reply:

    Yeah, Gilberto. Awful, awful player.

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    Stupot Reply:

    Gomes bucked that trend…

    essexian76 Reply:

    Gomes!,You think? Apparently he was going to sign a new contract but kept dropping the pen

  • Qoizu Says:

    HH, we do not need another striker!! We need creative midfielders that can retain possession of the ball!
    F.C.Porto is doing a brutal start to the season (Portuguese league and CL). The work of moutinho has been brilliant.
    AVB had an excellent plan when he signed for Spurs: sandro, dembele, parker, moutinho sig and vdv.
    Unfortunately the plan b (levy’s plan) was different.

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    StrappingYoungLad Reply:

    As far as i am aware we did try to sign Moutinho, no?

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    BrizzleSpur Reply:

    Well according to some people, no. A lot of people have said that it was all a bunch of lies, who do you believe though?

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  • mille147 Says:

    Ive seen Damiao play dozens of times…nothing more than a poacher and we’ve got one of those already. Overhyped brazillian that would wilt in England.

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    Hot_Spur Reply:

    Jimmy Greaves was a poacher. Your next point?

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    Phil McAvity Reply:

    So was my Uncle Bob, but he wouldn’t score that many for us either.

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  • Mark Says:

    We are playing the AVB Dembele system, it only works if he’s in it!

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  • xildnparadise Says:

    Well if we need a new scapegoat, based on this thread, I’ve got it!

    It’s all Sylvie’s fault! :)

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  • kojac Says:

    it’s hard to imagine levy paying £25m+ for a player,we got done on dempsey but at least we got dembele,he is good that bloke,where the f*ck is he

    right now i wish we had berba instead of dumpsey but obvioulsy bad history didn’t make it happen

    losing to wigan and not creating is a shite road to be on for the mighty tottenham,rocky seas ahead,captain AVB will either steer us into pleasant waters or run us into the rocks

    * more cliches on request :pirat: & COYS

    we’ve got some avb’s out and unhappy clappers now nailed up,we’re in full swing

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    Boy Charioteer Reply:

    Sometimes I think we are extras in “Groundhog Day”.

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    kojac Reply:

    i think you are right there BC,good job we like the movie

    all i can say is we are not sunk yet,it’s not pretty but we are not sunk

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    Ronnie Wolman Reply:

    no sometimes we are extras in groundhog day

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  • melcyid Says:

    dont think we will sink ,we were in front at citeh and the mancs were not a pretty sight.we lost by the odd goal with a team that fielded,120mill worth of goalscorers.and they are now in the hunt for Falcao.

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    kojac Reply:

    i’d love us to have an aguero,real quality but even dzeko will do,why can’t we find a hernandez he was £6m or something,real battler

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  • Spurstacus Says:

    BrisbaneSpur Reply:
    November 13th, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    Yep he certainly is with his bad sounding backing group: Felching, Hartley and melcyid..

    Although HH is distinctly quieter these last couple of days, but his die hard groupies are ‘keeping it real’…

    Are these named and shamed above the bumboys or the wanna be HH spice girls?

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    melcyid Reply:

    dunnit yet?

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    A_Felching Reply:

    I’m for supporting the team and the management, I don’t know what some people’s agendas are on here. :dizzy:

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  • Jermaine So-Low Says:

    Didn’t want him in the close season, don’t want him now – Brazilian players live on the history of their national team. Most (with the exception of Sandro of course), can’t be bothered learning English and only want to play for either Barca or Real as if they have a divine right, ‘because they are Brazilian’. We can do much better than Damiao, who will command mega wages, a mega fee and doesn’t even want to be here unless given a ‘Modric’ clause. Feck him. We shouldn’t consider ourselves a ‘stepping stone club’ anymore. We’ve done it in the past and continuously have to rebuild when the player gets itchy pants and wants to leave after making a few decent passes.

    Moutinho is another player I’d like the club to forget. He will command mega wages and no one knew who the hell he was until the Euro’s and Sky’s endless transfer speculation. There are plenty of players already in the premiership that can do a job. Demba Ba, Cisse, Shawcross for DF.. they have the mettle, they have no homesickness issues, they won’t command silly wages. We don’t need latino primadonnas who need a bedding in period and a pair of golden underpants to make them feel special.

    I can’t stand this little ponce (Damiao) and the Brazilian league is crap anyway. He will come here and need molly-coddling for six months, because he is homesick and no one speaksa da lingo. Boo Hoo.. givame da money, amma Brazilian!

    We should cut ties with Internacional as well. They are using this club to get better deals from Spanish giants.

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  • BillyFiore Says:

    I actually had a dream two nights ago that we signed Fellaini.

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