Posted on Sunday, 25th November 2012 by Harry Hotspur
Good evening.
You know, I was trying to work it out. I mean, I’m Tottenham yet I don’t really feel that much animosity toward Arsenal. Now look, I’m 44 years of age so it’s not like I should be able to rustle up too many Aunty Wengeresque excuses. They are our supposedly immediate idiot neighbours. And that whole Sol thing.
But I think I’ve nailed it.
My ‘irrational’ contempt comes from my very first Spurs game. Bill Nicholson’s Testimonial at The Lane and bless the old man, he bought us a pair of seats in the West Stand Lower. We were living at the time in a place Bruxie knows well, Rhinedahlen, BFPO 4o if you please!
This wasn’t my first time at a football match, or indeed my first time at a large public event. But the West Ham fans were fierce. I mean proper fierce. Every moment of the bloke announcing various elements of the day’s celebration were marred by West Ham booing and screaming. Jumping up and down like the unwashed mentalists they still are today.
‘Good job they can’t get out’ I remember nervously saying to dad. He replied, ‘Oh don’t worry about them. Most of the stewards normally work full time at London Zoo, we’ll be fine!”
Warren Mitchell was the master of ceremonies that day. On TV, Alf Garnett was a bigoted, racist West Ham fan. But that was acting. Mitchell was in real life, Tottenham of course. As he tried to speak, the Upton Park animals barked in earnest.
‘Shhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadup!’
There was about 2 or 3 seconds of wonderful silence, then we – us – the Yids – the Tottenham laughed. The whole stadium laughed. Oh how I loved that moment. My tribe had scented it’s territory. I nearly cried with a mixture of pride and relief. How things never change, eh?
So I am writing in the morning to Peter Herbert asking him what he plans to do about today. Or does the plight of whitey not count?
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November 25th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Nowadays hate the Chelsea most. Then Arsenal. Find it hard to get too excited about West Ham. A gruesome rabble, of that there is no doubt. But they are more or less irrelevant to us.
As for Herbert, he seems to have gone remarkably quiet. His deadline for us to stop using the yid word came and went and nothing happened. The Twattenberk case fell apart at the seams as widely predicted and he has had nothing to say about it. Perhaps he woke up one morning a week or so ago and had a major realization: ‘Wait a minute… I’m a complete twat.’
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Cornerpin Reply:
November 25th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Spot on Mr!
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Frontwheel 2 Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:04 am
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Paul Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Mr Herbert has blood on his hands. Life was plodding along all merry, our use of the word yid offending no one, apart from an over-rated tv so-called celebrity, Chelsea fan. This muppet pipes up and the next minute one of our faithful is subjected to a brutal attack from Italians shouting anti-semitic comments, and now the low life Spammers.
Any lawyer of any worth would realise our chants are not made to cause any offense and as such are within the law.
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November 25th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Is anyone really surprised? Hammers fans are the scum of the earth. Thick as shite and as much good character as Saddam Hussein. Total scum
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November 25th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
West Ham are the lowest form of scum. Had the good fortune to be sat right next to the racist little inbred boys this afternoon – the levels of hatred and chanting was absurd. Pure gut level hate, they were getting themselves all in a lather.
But. We destroyed them on the pitch and fans destroyed them in the terraces, outsung them and outwitted them at every turn. It was a joy to behold. And the West Ham wooooo chant was hilarious and had us in stitches.
No noise from the pikey boys now.
Victory is sweet.
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 25th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Was it “a small minority” or more widespread and serious?
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jolsgonemental Reply:
November 25th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
After the third went in, half their support left.
The vast majority remaining stayed behind for an afternoon of casual racism, threats and nazi salutes.
I was lower, so cant comment on the upper lot.
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November 25th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
the spammers have shown themselves once again, a deplorable bunch who don’t deserve the right to attend other football grounds, on a brighter note, the midget gem got a couple and from what i can ascertain the boy lloris had another good game. given that redschnapps is now back at work and the chavski rotters have employed the fat spanish waiter, can we assume the lazy hacks will give avb the time and space he will need to improve us like i for one know he can/will.
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SpurredoninDubblin Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
I was not one of the Harry Haters, but I did hate his “Rent-a-Quote” antics. How refreshing AVB has been in that department.
I suspect that QPR will face the drop this season, and I fear that when HR gets booed because of this, he will say “Idiots! What did they expect? When I got there, they had four points from thirteen games”.
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Edi Reply:
November 27th, 2012 at 6:58 am
Redknapp plays it safe. When he took over at Spurs, he was well aware that only one club in history had a start as bad as us and survived the drop. It was a no lose situation, couldn’t really be blamed for us going down, but hailed for keeping us up. Same with QPR.
You’ll notice that his antics in the transfer market backed my “no risk” theory up. Whether it was he or the chairman that made these calls is up for debate, but it always seemed like he’d buy a Steven Pienaar for £3m because at worst he’s an okay “squad player” but at best he’d be awesome and Redknapp looks like a genius. No lose again.
I believe that became his downfall. In his eyes, he took us over when we were 20th, so unless he got us relegated at any point, he’d done a good job. To an extent he’s right, but he failed to realise that success breeds expectation, ergo we were disappointed that we dropped a 13 point lead and gave up 3rd place to Arsenal, even though at the start of the season everyone would have been happy with fourth.
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November 25th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Got to the ground early from Hounslow today anyone know who the black guy in goal was during the warm up was; he did nt seam to be saving many shots.
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November 25th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
One other point. I already am seeing talk of a ‘minority’ of West Ham fans.
Bullshit. try the vast majority of the knuckleheads.
Much like Chelseas minority who booed the Hillborough silence at Wembley then.
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legalalienfromaliencentral Reply:
November 25th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Too many supporters excuse vile verbal hatred as banter. I try to believe these morons are not representative of the majority – unfortunately their silence is deafening.
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 25th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
I salute your avatar from “Forbidden Planet”, Robbie The Robot.
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November 25th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Wetspam, the pornsters plaything, domain of the ignorant and inbred, realm of big fat Sam and anti-football, toadying accomplice of the cheatski chav and footstool of the mighty Tottenham Hotspur FC!!!
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November 25th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Yep, who cares about the Spammers? They are a non entity – just take the performance of their beloved boys in claret and blue – they accommodated us by helping us provide our best performance under avb.
Well done to the lads, dare he say it but the eyeballer saw alot to be positive about :
lloris was very good in goal, Dawson was a rock at the back ( with a bit of luck he has cemented his place in the starting Lind up, at least until the return of kaboom) walker though not excellent was much better than usual and Dempsey actually played with a degree of confidence in the second half
please god Sandro is not injured – dembele looked nice and sharp though
bring on the scousers on Wednesday night!!!
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Mattaay Reply:
November 25th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Sabdro’s fine. There was a tweet from the Physio saying he’d be fine to play on Wednesday!
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November 25th, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Always thought they were the worst behaved supporters in London. Hailing from Basildon, I was always surrounded by WH fans, so I have always disliked them just a little less than the Arse.
They always would wait to greet us at barking station after getting off the south tottenham train, which was nice!
Nowadays I’m surrounded by Chelsea fans in Sussex, so the west ham rivalry thing has died off a bit.
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East Stand Reply:
November 25th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Poor you, move to Herts or West Essex. Plenty of fellow supporters there, a few Goons too but they’re just Teletubbies…
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Mattski1979 Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Try Hemel, lots of yids here (qpr as well! Harmless as they are), avoid Stevenage, its total tottenham, but also a shitehouse
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November 25th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
what can you say … pure scum
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November 25th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Why do the other 3 main London clubs consider us their biggest game?
I actually consider the goons a worthy opponent.
Chelsea once passionate, raw and with a good away following are a complete embarrassment.
And this lot are totally insignificant, although they are a useful 3 points most years.
North London Giants
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November 25th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Lets see if the porn brothers slag Brady does anything about her fans chanting today?
Away fans are mostly season ticket holders, each seat has a number, each numbered seat has someones name on it as more than likely they are Pikey season ticket holders or Pikey members.
CCTV in the security box way up in the sky will be able to pick them out in full glorious HD with bells on……
Now lets get Mr Herbert to sit through the footage and pick out the seat numbers and hand them to Brady!! job done
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SpurredoninDubblin Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Fat chance that the Brady Bunch will do anything about it. Do you not recall them predicting (encouraging) riots if the failed to get the OS.
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November 25th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
been a spurs fan for about 60 yrs cant work up hate for west ham arsenal or chelsea it all goes to the shit manure cant bring my self to say there name
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Michelle Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:23 am
MU,Ch,LivP(still feel the 0-7,WHU,A**e.
I suppose once MC start trying to steal our players, they will enter the list also.
much as i hate A**e, I admire Wenger and the way they do not use the money cheat unlike ALL of the above (err WHU excepted but then pimping is cheating isn’t it?)
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November 25th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
I think this goes way beyond football and into society in general, it makes me sad to be part of the football family and equally ashamed to say I share the same language and citizenship as these mindless idiots. At the end of the day it is just a game of football.
The first three words I could say were up ‘up the ‘purs’. As soon as I was old enough I went to every home game and most away matches. I simply fell in love with Spurs but now I feel like falling out of love with football in general and everything it represents. As a kid I was taken to watch Spurs train at Cheshunt. Ardilles and Villa had signed, I spoke to them, I couldn’t talk to Hoddle, the words wouldn’t come out I was so in awe. Today, you would have more luck breaking into the Bank of England than getting in to see the team train.
What has football really become, a microcosm of the worst part of society…
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Tom Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
football is ill and doesn’t look like getting better. i fear it is terminal.
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Diamond Spur Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
My grandparents lived near the old training ground at Chesthunt, my sister and I used to go and see the players there, Archibald and Crookes spring to mind mucking about in the car park. The squad used to jog past the ole dears as they went to get their pension and would all say hello to them. I met Hoddle when I was nine through his aunt, she worked with my dad, and I couldn’t say a word was just dumbstruck! Fast forward to now, took my 6yr old son to WHL and waited out side the gates to get him an autograph from one of his heroes and not one of them would even acknowledge anyone was stood there! The only signature he got was from Alan Mullery who was an absolute star. Haven’t been since then, it was the Blackpool game when C.Adam nobbled Bale, it’s a 200 quid day out for us plus a 4hour round trip! Funny I stopped watching F1 because it was getting so expensive!
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November 25th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Arsenal then Chelsea then West Ham. They hate us because we play fair and have morals. Proud to be a Spurs supporter, we take alot of crap.
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November 25th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
We know what Westaaam are are and have been for years. Far Right-Wing affiliations with the good old NF, Combat 18 and BNP/EDL goose-stepping fascist filth.
Fuck Herbert and the authorities in general- this lot of scum have been doing this for decades without hardly any condemnation from the mainstream media, FA, Met Twat Police or those heroic murderers in Parliament (well, they can hardly take the moral high ground can they?).
Only one answer to this scum- stand and fight.
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 25th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Wasn’t there one year where The Anti-Nazi League made a concerted effort to mass leaflet their ground because the “West Ham SS” were the worst in the country?
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John White's Ghost Reply:
November 25th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
yes you are right. Spurs Against the Nazis were there.
Racist scum.
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Michelle Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:27 am
er Billy the EDL is NOT the BNP.
Get your facts right sonny
BNP neonazis
EDL defend western culture and are multiracial
HH forgive my comment but he has no right to smear the EDL with the BNP stain and he SHOULD know the difference, that is IF he cares.
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:14 am
Could this EDL who “defend western culture and multiracial” be the same EDL that, on 9th October 2010 in Leicester threw fireworks, smokebombs and bricks at the police and then proceeded to smash the windows of The International Arts Centre? Or upheld “Western Values” by posing in paramilitary outfits with guns and crossbows? Or, was the heroic EDL member Simon Beech who, on 7th December 2011 jailed for 10 years along with an accomplice for an arson attack on a mosque upholding “Western Culture” at the time? If the action of these absurd individuals are defending “Western Culture” then the barbarians are truly within the gates.
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SpurredoninDubblin Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
That is probably the best comment I have seen on this site all year. The EDL defend western culture like the Nazis defended German Culture.
Jan Vertiginous Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Well said. Looks like you put a stop to the nonsensical apologist. Facts are hard to equivocate over. Have you come across the English Disco Lovers?
https://www.facebook.com/englishdiscolovers
psiber Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Wheres the Like Button!!!
Tom Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
EDL defend western culture and are multiracial – Shut up.
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Fuck off Michelle, you illiterate baboon.
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simianspur Reply:
November 27th, 2012 at 7:06 am
Couldn’t have put it better.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
How would there be any pressure from the media, when most football related journo’s are West Ham fans?
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November 25th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
completley understand everyones feelings towards there fans as they are scum and it was more than half singing them songs today so the old it was a minority nonsense won’t work with me. on the matter of the game, really pleased with the effort from most the team and AVB did well too and he seems to be learning from his mistakes, Lloris playing, Dawson back too
now if Dempsey could break a leg it might just turn into a good season………….
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Tom Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
Dempsey looked like he was finally working out how to play with our players around him yesterday.. i’m feeling much more positive about him now than i have since he signed.
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November 25th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
For me its about Tottenham but I hate Arsenal. It wasnt always that way.Back in the sixties I pities them.then in the 70′s I disrespected them. When they started to pay good football I really started to hate them.
It was our mantle.
Over the last few years we have got better and I think we are better than those bastards.(do like Cazorla though)
Chelsea I dont hate as much.I like some of their players Hazard Torres Matta….
West Ham are nothing.
who cares,
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 25th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
If you are under duress you must activate the code word “Wenger”.
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November 25th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Last week my mate who went to the Lazio game said that the attack was by West Ham.
After they chamted ‘can I stab you every week’ today. Maybe he was right
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 25th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
I heard the same thing but dismissed it as you need a passport to travel to Europe and a rough idea as to where Europe is
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Jan Vertiginous Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
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November 25th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
It’ll be interesting to see the FA’s response to today’s incident considering their recent calls for UEFA to set a precedence with strong action to be takien against Serbia and Lazio…
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November 25th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
You can’t blame a whole club’s support for a lunatic fringe with one brain cell to share between the 50 odd of them that make up their number. As generally unpleasant many of their support can be.
For example the punk band ‘Cockney Rejects’ are 100% born and bred Spammers and are pretty rough diamonds to put it mildly but they’ve always rallied against the racist elements beginning in their youth in the late 70′s when casual racism and even nastier stuff was just an everyday thing. Not just within football support but the large right wing elements hijacking working class youth culture at the time. I suppose my point is, be careful to tar them all with the same brush.
Lets also not forget Wet Spam have a reasonable number of Jewish fans themselves, they are the East End club. An area with as much Jewish history as North East London, if not more. I wonder what their Jewish support must think of it?
This lot should be picked out and banned from football grounds for life. Peter Herbert will probably trot out another load of cliches if asked about today’s game to try and give the impression that his proposed ‘Black Players Union’ would in some way inclusive to others. It’s in the bloody name innit, you’re just an idiot Mr Herbert and you’re in way over your head. Leave it alone now before you embarrass yourself and the legal profession any further…
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Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:10 am
Im Jewish I was from the east end.I used to go to games at Upton Park years ago during the week (sometimes they played on Mondays)
I think the Jewish supporters even in the east end were mostly Tottenham or Arsenal but much more Tottenham.
I think later when the firms started that their became a radical fringe at WH.
Years ago it seemed like a friendly neighborhood club.
Chelsea definately have a political group there.Ponce fascists.
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East Stand Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:54 am
I know that a lot of Tottenham and Arsenal’s Jewish support originates from all areas of London but there are still plenty of Jewish West Ham supporters and Chelski supporters. Would they prefer any reference to the Jewish religion be in the context some of their fans use it or the way ours use it? Let’s sort that disgusting nonsense out first shall we before turning on Spurs fans?
When you hear the kind of brainless crap we heard today, don’t you think Mr Herbert and the ‘SOBL’ are rather picking a fight with the wrong club on this issue? David Badiel also, have a look at your own club and their shocking record on this stuff before prioritising having a go at Tottenham. Talk about miss the point… Anyway, all a bit complex really. The only part that isn’t is that those thick bastards should be banned, end of.
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SpurredoninDubblin Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
“I know that a lot of Tottenham and Arsenal’s Jewish support originates from all areas of London but there are still plenty of Jewish West Ham supporters and Chelski supporters”.
The one thing I have always found to be consistent is their stupidity. As an example, there was the racist chants by Lazio in the first game every time Lennon got the ball, even though Lazio has black players. We know Wet Sham will have it’s Jewish support, but that wont stop them abusing Jewish supporters whilst explaining to his Jewish Wet Sham mate, that “all Yids are filth except for you”.
Possibly the most famous example of this stupidity was the white woman who hated Muhammad Ali so much, that she attended most of his fights near ringside, and could be heard screaming “Kill the Nigger” throughout most of the fight, even though most of Ali’s opponents were themselves black.
Then of course there is the KU Klux Klan in the US, which prides itself on it’s Christian values, though Roman Catholics need not apply. The ultimate irony of course, is that Christ couldn’t join either because he was a Jew.
There is an old joke about the man who was complaining about immigrants. He says, “I am so fed up with all these immigrants, that I have half a mind to join the National Front, to which an immigrant replies, “You are well qualified then. Half a mind is all you need”.
For all that, I cannot bring myself to hate Wet Sham supporters, because to do so, would be like hating someone because they are retarded.
November 25th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Was not at the game today but on t’internet, some of their supporters who say they were there are claiming their “hissing” was in fact a ssscchhh as in it’s quite at the Lane and having a pop at the home supporters for the lack of support.
Anyone at the game today think there is any truth in this ?
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harry hater Reply:
November 25th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
yeah i thought it was that myself as it had gone quiet in the ground and i was thinking the same thing, as soon as i heard this being reported after the game i knew it was someone making a story out of nothing! and to be honest them singing Lazio is not that bad it is just sick that they would do it but nothing can be done or should be done as it is just really bad taste! we have certain songs for wenger or judas cnut who left us that are just as sick! still we had the last laugh
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 25th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
I didn’t find anything they sung either surprising or unusual to be honest-it was just nice to shut them after an hour-bliss! Still can’t get rid of this grin though
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November 25th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
yes the ANL did that and Spurs Against the Nazis were there.
Racist scum!
They are all probably now in the Nazi EDL as well, pure shit
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November 25th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
I feel sorry for them – they hate us and cite us their big rival but I’m not sure we really give a shit about them. They’re just a bunch of angry lads with an inferiority complex struggling to come to terms with their own insignificance in the modern game.
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November 25th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Chelsea fans booing Benitez before he’d even parked his a**e on a seat on MOTD.
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melcyid Reply:
November 25th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
the radio announcer had to ask them to be quiet as they were supposed to be respecting with silence for an old manager Dave Sexton who had just died.
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November 25th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Chelsea’s Luiz virtually ripping Vincent Kompany’s shirt off his back in the penalty area. How can the ref not see that?
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November 25th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
On the rivalry front,I cannot hate Arsenal, in the same way I hate Liverpool-I detest everything about that side-Whereas I respect Arsenal, more so today for not succumbing to players demands or Russian Billionaires wanting to join the boar that said I don’t fcuking like either-but Liverpool and their whinging flippin’ fans-fcuk every last one one of them-with a huge spanner-right up the jacksee
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 25th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Well, at least it would keep mechanics in business. Just watched Spurs beating Chelsea on YouTube 74-75 season sending Chelsea down. Alfie Conn scoring!
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
I was there BC although I had a ticket for the game, I couldn’t get in. It ended up in the Worcester Road, East Stand, when a crowd broke through the turnstile, and we ended up bunking in to game I’d already paid for?
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East Stand Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:38 am
You hate the Scousers more than Arsenal? Eh? Why don’t you just go and be done with it and support Manure instead?
What’s all this good fucking will to the Woolwich pikes on here today, is it just cos their hardcore fans do less vile chants than others??
Each to their own mate, but a lot of this so called ‘whinging’ from Loverpool’s fans was cultivated by the Southern press after Hillsborough who tried to make them out to be claiming victim status all the time in the hope they might go away. Truth’s out now though…
I don’t care either way about Liverpool but i can think of worse clubs who have won naff all that have had a smoother ride in the media. More importantly i fail to understand how can you dislike any other club more than Arsenal if you’re a Spurs fan. Sorry i just don’t understand… Maybe i’m just old fashioned i dunno!!
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:20 am
@East Stand-I come from North London-My brother was Gooner-half of my schoolmates-work collegues and associates are Gooners. Back in the day-we’d watch both clubs on alternate Saturdays-I’ve stood on the North Bank with a huge Sporting Lisbon rosette and cheered on every opponent they ever played-because I’m a Yid-the difference was it was banter-unlike Scouseland where Stanley knives and sheer nastiness became more prevalent-that’s why-dont you tell me who I can or cannot support matey-I choose my enemies for a damned good reason, and I hate Liverpool-as opposed to disliking Arsenal
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East Stand Reply:
November 27th, 2012 at 2:10 am
I am close to loads of Gooners too, doesn’t make me dislike them any less.
As for Stanley knives and nasty 70′s and 80′s football violence, we can take Milwall, Leeds, West Ham, Man U etc and even our own thugs out of that equation and just say it was all led by the Scousers can we? Didn’t an opposing fan get ‘Spurs’ carved in his back with a blade by one of our lot at Severn Sisters tube back in the day?
Funny how selective our memories can be, our lot have also sung some pretty sick stuff in their time. You can’t tar all fans of a club with the same brush for me. You get decent and shit fans at all clubs. Like i said, each to their own but Arsenal are our main rivals as far as i’m concerned, the fact i have close friends and family that support them is kind of missing the point to me. It’s about disliking the club, not hating people i know or don’t know. Only my opinion.
Do what you like mate…
November 25th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Come on HH. You always are quick to point out JD’s shortcomings but haven’t said anything following his hattrick in Europa and nothing about a good performance today. First goal was immense as you could see the doubt starting to creep back into our game after a bright start. Did it all by himself from just inside the half. So come on HH, give Jermaine his jimboots!!
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November 25th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
My dad was stationed at Rheindahlen in the early 70s. We lived in a place called Rheydt. First football match I ever saw without my dad was Moenchengladbach and they’ve remained my second team ever since.
Like you I cannot find it in myself to ‘hate’ Arsenal. They are a well-run club who play attractive football. My vitriol is saved for the Johnny-come-lateleys that are Chelscum and Shitty.
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Frontwheel 2 Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:36 am
I always look out for Borussia M too,late equalizer today.
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East Stand Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:10 am
I don’t deeply hate any other club, i only have a deep and intense dislike of other clubs and Arsenal are just about at the top of that list. I dislike them most, they’re bleedin’ Arsenal for craps sake!!
Yeah, Chelski, Wet Spam i’m not keen but it’s how their fans have such a problem with us that makes me dislike them. It’s almost like they’re jealous of our heritage and class and tradition of playing the right way since the 50′s. Wet Spam actually have a better football tradition than Arsenal’s historically.
I feel no affinity with Arsenal just cos of Wenger’s recent influence. They’ve always been functional with limited flair and boring as crap until he turned up… Certainly being ‘well run’ i prefer to the Chavs etc but that does’t make me like them to any degree at all. Old -school Gooners are sometimes tolerable but they have as many ‘johnny come lately’s’ as the Chavs do. Another reason to regard them as our main rivals and a load of poxy South London dog shit on the bottom of my blue and white shoe!!! Fuck em.
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Hate is a terrible thing to have. It can eat you away like a cancer. I can understand it with the victims of Nazis or when a criminal does something heinous to a member of your family. I had a taste of it to a much lesser, and on reflection completely unjustifiable extent when my partner and my friend in the 1980′s had an affair. It can never be towards someone who merely supports another football team. This takes it to an abstract sort hate which doesn’t make sense at all. How can you hate someone you have never met?
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East Stand Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Spot on, it happens with individuals too. The amount of threats and nasty stuff through Twitter etc is a case in point. The bile aimed towards Harry just seems totally irrational at times and we also see it with AVB now. Ok we are more keen on certain people than others based on their public profile but we must be very careful not to have our whole opinion of people manipulated by snippets or crumbs of information without ever meeting them.
An opinion of a club is even more detached as we’re talking about a group of people with a name attached to them. I dislike Arsenal intensely but i don’t hate them.
If you consider ‘intense dislike’ is as far as i can possibly go, then Arsenal are smelly Woolwich Pikey Johnny Come Lately’s and nothing more who think because of one manager that they now have a ‘tradition’ of passing football. Pikey and shit football is in their DNA, despite Wenger’s recent stuff.
Frontwheel 2 Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:34 am
I intensely dislike baked beans.
November 25th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Leeds for me, just because I was brought up in Halifax….Le Ar5e and Cheatski next followed by the bin dippers….don’t like Wigan, Bolton or Blackburn because they’re from wankashire but have a soft spot for Burney as I used to watch them in the early 70′s……I can’t hate the spammers too much as let’s face it, they’re a feckin joke…..
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 7:49 am
Got chased all the way back to the station when we beat Leeds 2-1 in January 1971. I thought if they catch us they will kill us. I tried to stuff my Spurs scarf down my leg, but it just made me look like I was wearing one-legged jodhpurs. Glad to get home after that one.
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November 25th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Don’t expect any more from those throwbacks. Feel sorry their non scumbag fans.
On a better note, was that the best we’ve played all season? I’d like to hear what people who go think, but it looked that way on football first.
Has Defoe scored a better goal than that?
And did Dempsey just have his best game in a Spurs shirt by a million miles? I was all ready to give up on him, but he looked quality today.
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david Reply:
November 25th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
Dempsey looked about 3 yards quicker today than he has previously. Let’s hope he maintains today’s standards.
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Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:14 am
Dempsey started of tenuously but then got some confidence.The confidence factor is the MOST important thing.Redknapp knew that. Now we have to do it with the substance as well of an actual meaning.
Dempsey felt pressure I think early.He will find his groove (Good things will automatically kick in)He just has to keep at it.
We have no bad of a team,they just have to find their flow for each game and get and stay focused.
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:16 am
‘Tenuously’. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:15 am
Its a derivative of tentatively..so tentatively..if that doesnt pass your semantics (anti-semantics?) then Im sorry but you get the drift…or do you?
Spurstacus Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:00 am
‘Tenamen’. I don’t think it does what you think it does.
November 26th, 2012 at 12:14 am
Luis Suarez. What a cunt.
https://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/sp/image/1342/60/1342604918715.gif
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November 26th, 2012 at 12:18 am
Iv’e never thought of Hammers fans as rivals in any way,pathetic and slimey,but never rivals.It always has been and always will be the Gooners who stir my hate juices.Spammers are just little gifts from God to make you one feel better about oneself.
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SpurredoninDubblin Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
ROFLMAO
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November 26th, 2012 at 12:20 am
Enough with the Dempsey manlove. If Sigurdsson had been given the same amount of game time we’d have have some player on our hands by now. I fully expect Dempsey to return to type against the bin-dippers on Wednesday.
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November 26th, 2012 at 12:50 am
Still don’t get the concept of a non encompassing organisation “the black lawyers society” campaigning against being non encompassing ? As they used to say ” you can’t please all the people all of the time” we don’t live in a perfect world,some grotesque things do make us laugh and trivial things get under our skin.i have purposely avoided the R word as its context is clouded more day by day.lets just live a life to enjoy what we have,not envy what we don’t and try to make others smile
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November 26th, 2012 at 12:58 am
i don’t hate anyone but the arsenal are the ones i want to beat,
good job we won today needed that,tough week ahead with the poo and fulham away we need th epoints tin the bag to start progressing
arry went to QPR then in the end then,good luck to him
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November 26th, 2012 at 1:09 am
yeah dempsey actually did something for a change but it was about f*cking time,he did look like it had been getting to him with his shiner and mascara,hopefully his mrs has knocked some bloody sense into him
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November 26th, 2012 at 1:19 am
I’d urge everyone who reads this blog to read this disgusting linking of us using the term yid and the stabbing in Rome by guess who?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/25/peter-herbert-combat-football-racism
Comments have been closed for today but will reopen tomorrow when the mods back at work I guess.
Harry, considering the traffic you get, I think a blog post of your own in response which shows up on newsnow is in order.
YID ARMY!
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LLL Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Oh dear. I thought he might have developed a shred of self-awareness and crawled back under his stone.
The ‘logic’ of blaming Spurs fans for attacks on them is akin to blaming rape victims for wearing too short a skirt, or indeed race attack victims for provoking people. What a complete and utter fool. Now, he’s someone I really would relish getting into an argument with!
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cyril Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:15 am
this in the huffington post today: “Tottenham’s Jewish following has been worn as a badge of honour by the club the past 30 years as the club have embraced their Yids moniker. However this has led to anti-Semitism on the terraces”
Now it is possible to read this as saying that the Jewish following has led to the anti-Semitism but I fear a more natural reading is that it suggests the “Yids moniker” has done so. I mean, obviously there had never been any abuse of spurs fans before the adoption of said moniker!!! herbert and baddiel are quite extraordinary.
baddiel had a piece where he talked of how some thug at chelsea had been screaming anit-semitic comments from two rows behind him, did our intrepid hero, fighting for justice, go to a steward and have the thug kicked out? no, his bold and fearless stand is against the victims bringing it on themselves; indeed the short skirt theory. thank god we have him looking out for us, an example we can point our children to, fearless and brave
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david Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
That lawyer was on Talksport this morning talking with Richard Keys.
Came across as self-important, arrogant and loving his 15 minutes of fame.
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SpurredoninDubblin Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Just had a look at the link recommended by Papaspurs, and someone quite rightly points out that if we are to be prosecuted (or should that be persecuted) for the context in which we use the word “Yid”, will Mr Herbert be urging the Police to arrest black men for using the word “Nigger”?
Glad to see that the overwhelming majority of comments are in our favour. That is even more important because the Guardian is clearly one of our more liberal papers, and if the took the view that our use of the word “Yid” was meant to be offensive, then it would be reflected in the readership.
November 26th, 2012 at 1:21 am
Dempsey did something playing for Spurs… Whoop de flipping do! Yes he looked kind of like a professional footballer tonight. Very good performance from the whole side, Bale came inside often and it worked a treat.
I remember H.R getting so much shtick for getting Bale to come inside last season. To leave a player of his ability stuck out on the wing is just madness. He just needs to learn when to come inside or stay wide and his reading of the game is clearly improving. Dempsey’s ball was quality but Bale’s take, touch and finish was almost as good for me. J.D great too.
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Paul9inch Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 9:42 am
spot on with Bales analysis. Dempsey had a better game but still lost the ball far far too much
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LLL Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:15 am
You are right about Bale to an extent. The thing that worries me though is that his agent has got him roaming in a training exercise for Real. i.e. we have to suffer half a season where it doesn’t work and it generally counter-productive to our play, then a season where it starts to slowly work, and then he f-s off. Just my worry there.
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East Stand Reply:
November 27th, 2012 at 2:18 am
That’s a pretty complex worry to have but i take your point. Thing is, if he makes the decision to come in when it is effective and not otherwise, i can’t see a problem myself.
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November 26th, 2012 at 2:41 am
seeing david sullivan in the stand prematch and his strange attire with his wench . very much gave me the uneasy feeling of seeing Jimll, very strange and very jimmy savillesque
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 10:02 am
The art of saying something without actually saying it eh?
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melcyid Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:57 am
he is dark and creepy
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LLL Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
I’m suspicious of him. Think he might be ‘weird’ in some undefined way.
November 26th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Fortunately they are an isolated gene pool that proves Darwin’s theory has flaws (probably because they are in captivity come to think about it).
Not even a bit of cross-pollination with their female fans from Mr 9inch can help there.
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November 26th, 2012 at 11:04 am
I have nothing but utter hatred for those rats ! far and above how I feel about Chavs and Arse wipes. I mean,” Grown men bringing tubes of childrens bubbles with them to football Games pretty much sums it up !!
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Astro Spur Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Ha ha, always thought they were sad bastards with that meself.
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November 26th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Provocative fuckers…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKmBvm6ReO4&feature=player_embedded#!
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Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
I put this up because its ironic (which is ironic in itself) It wasntr meant to be insensitive (just thought of that now)
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
I wonder if one of Chris Tarrant’s railway journeys on Channel 5 starts from Fenchurch Street.
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November 26th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
I’d say Peter Herbert’s perverse fixation with Spurs “Yid” chants is bordering on anti-semitic itself
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philmccrackin Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Big Sam had his arm around Mark Clutterf**k and said to him”did you call any of my boys monkies,no said Clutterf**k it starts like yourself with a big D,its DONKEYS I SAID YOU FAT F**K.
:lol: 
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November 26th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
TWITCHY aint af giving it large on newsnow.
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philmccrackin Reply:
November 26th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
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November 26th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
I think Benitez should insist that Chelski start the next home game by singing ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone’.
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November 26th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Sudden increase in anti-semitic abuse about the same time as a ‘well intentioned??’ organisation highlights the Y-word usage…..coincidence?
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November 26th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
west who???????
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November 26th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
west who?????
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November 26th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Good old joey barton. possibly the brightest footballer in his own opinion. Car mechanics are more intelligent that footballers. type barton post match interview into teh tubes. i loled a lot.
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November 26th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Good luck Harry at qpr, be interesting to see how he deals with taraabt, anyway same team for Wed night? The only change, I hope is moussa for Thud, sure Lloris is the real deal and good to see Daws in for Billy
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November 26th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
apparently Benitez is the most unpopular caretaker since Ian Huntley
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November 26th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Zis eez ze crackin.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2238720/Joey-Barton-French-accent-Video-watch-midfielders-hilarious-post-match-interview.html
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November 27th, 2012 at 12:17 am
Now fellas we need to be very careful here. I am by no means one of the PC brigade, but for the benefit of this post I`m going to try to look through their eyes.
Firstly, look yourself in the mirror and ask – if it were West Ham, Chavs or Goons that were stabbed up would `we` not chant some merry ditty in their direction? WH have spouted some filth at us over the years, but we haven`t been shy in spouting back. Herbert and his S.O.B.`s may have a stupid argument as far as we`re concerned, but they are educated and adept in springing traps. We are in danger of walking straight into their snare, this has panned out beautifully for them.
If we have claimed the right to wear the `yids` badge, then we need to accept being called yids by the opposition. Racism is not acceptable in any form, but it is inevitable in this context by the mindless few. If we keep on focussing on the fans` behaviour rather than our brilliant win, then we are playing into the S.O.B.`s hands. Their argument will be `WH have handed out life bans to guilty fans. Therefore the argument that you call yourselves yids as a defence mechanism is no longer a valid one, so keep your side of the bargain and drop it`. Otherwise, we are in danger of sounding like the bindippers – `remember Hillsborough, why should you ever forget. Hysel? What you talking about?` Now, I distinctly heard `No noise from the pikey boys` being sung. Like it or not, travellers are an ethnic group nowadays. I do not recall WH claiming `pikeys` as a badge of honour. This hypocracy plays right into the hands of the S.O.B.`s. Now to the real issue – great win, Lloris, Defoe and….was that really deuce? all looked good. Shame about the careless goal conceded, we need to beef up our GD. Bring on the scouse, this game couldn`t come at a better time for us. COYS.
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Papaspurs Reply:
November 27th, 2012 at 1:19 am
‘If we have claimed the right to wear the `yids` badge, then we need to accept being called yids by the opposition’
Tosh.
Please try that in 1990s Compton. LA.
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East Stand Reply:
November 27th, 2012 at 2:22 am
I wouldn’t try that in South Central L.A at any time… I did, and this is my ghost typing!!
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