Posted on Tuesday, 20th November 2012 by Harry Hotspur
Good morning.
This from a proven decent source and bound to irritate the hell out of the naysayers, bedwetters and other lingering Arryites. It’s my understanding that Andre Villas-Boas’ position at the club is very much secure. For how long? Well not just this season but the next one too.
This considerable support is conditional of course. If the boss were to be linked with a vacancy elsewhere and suddenly went missing, spent his day whoring himself to the press, neglecting his THFC duties or otherwise managed to drive us into the relegation zone then you can guarantee he’d be toast.
But the plan as I understand it is to factor in Boas’ resources, review what support the Club can offer and to forge a path that will offer longevity.
Will this initiative designed to offer stability please those that claim to wish Spurs well but not the manager? Who cares. At this rate QPR will be back in the Championship next season and there are bound to be openings for supporters who want to sit in cosy, old fashioned stadium telling each other how staunch they are.
The worst thing that happened in recent times to this club was Arry screwing us over so blatantly after giving us a taste of Champions League football. Suddenly too many clowns believe it’s a god given right and have been acting like outraged consumers ever since. Spoiled children each and every one. Empty seats at Europa games and only boos to break the frosty silence during league games.
The very idea that you can separate your support for the Club and the manager is beyond parody. Oh, of course unless you’re following the Blackburn Rovers model.
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November 20th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Great news, I hope he is here for the long haul
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JIM Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 11:40 am
agreed, great news. Two years more decline and the comfort of mid table. No more sweating on results and worrying. Thank God.
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hoofing Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Great, lets get back to the old days when we didnt expect to win every week.
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white football socks Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
we havent had a decent run of results since last January when Harry made a botch up of the window, so you should be already used to it. Then Levy made his annual botch of the start of the season dealings. But it is AVBs fault the squad is considerably weaker than a year ago ?
November 20th, 2012 at 11:32 am
My copy of Celebration Day arrived today…
My typing will have to cope with the headbanging.
Good news for some indeed, this AVB business. For others, however it must be like being told you will have to work with the office git for two years. And take orders from him/her.
I like the idea of stability for a period of two years or even more. We haven’t tried the stability theory out, really, have we?
Wow, this room’s rockin’!
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
I have that on right now too, mate.
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Tel Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Last real bit of stability we had was Jol and things didn’t go too badly.
We need it.
Whoever thought it was going to be easy this season after losing Modric and having a very unsettled squad following Redschnapps’ series of cock ups is very naive indeed.
We need stability, a plan, time to get there and the manager with the backing of the board. We now have all of this – it will take time but we will be back where we should be.
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November 20th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Harry, you are an absolute twat! You remind me of that other twat off talk shite who spouts bullshit all day just to get people to phone in. Its all the fans fault, how dare we wish for our team to win football matches and play decent football. Shame on all of you…
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Harry hater Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Woooooo that’s 2 of us that agree about Harry then
remember Cambridge even if we lose every game and don’t have a shot at goal all season with players wiping there arse with there shirts we must stay silent and nod when sir Harry and his gang speak!
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BrizzleSpur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
If you really believe that then why come here?
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Tel Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
You sir, are a mug punter
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the man from room five Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
and possibly a budgy smuggling turd burglar
November 20th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Personally I’m totally confused about AVB, 50-50. Is he the real deal or a complete no-hoper? I don’t have the answer yet but I guess we have to suppprt him as well as the team while he’s the boss. COYS…
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November 20th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Strangely after loosing the last game I feel positive! Having not been AVB’s biggest fan I think he played the right system against Arsenal and had it not been for a moment of madness, I think we would have taken that match down! We looked solid (albiet for 17 minutes) but it shows we do still have it in our repertoire, also he made the right changes at halftime so all positives!
Now to read the above takes pressure away which is nice, this would also indicate Levy is prepaired to back him, lets hope this also indicates he will back him in the transfer market as this is paramount to us pushing on into the Champs League places.
Come on Daniel, get your wallet out!
The next few games are key, and unfortunately we are very short in the staff department, we’re gonna need some luck but if we hold it together we could be in for a Happy New Year!
COYS
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Harry hater Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Wow exactly my thoughts cptcaveman, first time this season I’ve been happy with the style of play and effort! Levy is still one of the best things to happen to us but he has had a few stupid moments that have really cost us!
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Perhap’s HH, that’s why he’s looking around for a DOF to take the burden away from him-allowing him the time to make money for the club, which he has,and lot’s of it during his tenure?
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Millsie33 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
I’m completely behind what this guy is saying and the other fella Tel. We lose our only world class player and expect to be exactly the same team. For those who watched us week in, week out over the last few seasons will know that EVERYTHING went through Modric. Taking him out of the team has left a massive creative and ball retention hole that Dembele only partially fills. We are struggling now because our best players are out injured. Simple. Yes, the jury is still out on AVB but his set up post game V Scummers was spot on. It worried me that it was too attacking but it worked. The Ade sending off blatantly changed the game. Defoe cannot play upfront by himself without any support as his is too small and has a touch like Jimmy Saville! So we struggled. Half time AVB made changes that gave us a chance. He recognised the problems and more impressive than that he went for it. This is what the top guys like Fergie do when the chips are down and they need to go for it. In AVB I trust. He’s earned a chance in my books now and if u are a TRUE Spurs fan then you should too.
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CptCaveman Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
You had me at ‘Touch like Jimmy Saville’
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rich Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Defoe has a great touch next you will be saying Lennon has a poor touch.
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Alspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Ridiculously sensible… you’ll not go far, here, son…
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10000rpm Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
My sentiments 100%. We miss Dembele and the sending off changed the game. Half time changes and tactics worked but with 10 men, it could only do so much.
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DaveYid Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 8:16 am
I think Defoe would’ve been praised and exalted had Bale not been such a greedy coont in the box and crossed to a waiting Defoe instead of trying to do what he did in Milan. That was another huge chance to alter the scoreline at least to a draw. Defoe was open and would’ve easily poked it in.
I think Defoe has improved on his solo performances upfront mainly out of necessity. Dempsey has been a floating fartcloud these past few weeks imho. A far cry from the talisman I enjoyed watching at Fulham. Dembele is the Palacios we should’ve had and so once he comes back, WE as a team will come back as well. So if he comes back on Sunday fully fit, we can be slightly less edgy about the next game which could well end up with any scoreline we can think of…
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DaveYid Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 8:18 am
I mean the Hammers game, not Lazio
SpursSince67 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
My thoughts entirely Captain !
I too roamed around the Home last Saturday evening feeling pretty Zen about the result based on the same conclusions as yourself…
How many times do we need to reiterate that he inherited a squad well in decline before VdV and Modders deserted the sinking ship ?
He couldn’t of had much influence on DLs dealings (who the hell does ?) so has had to make the best of a rum deal in my view…still can’t believe we are still in the top ten to be honest.
I also think he has been over cautious considering his past experience and maybe being pushed to use the Americans more than he’d like as DL needs to curry favour with Under Amour to satisfy what ever Clause he’s agreed to. How the hell can anyone on this Blog truly know what is going on behind closed even in this Twitter filled age.
I felt that the real AvB came out on show last Saturday and I’d like him to have the courage to do it again. Let’s just pray for more intelligent and talented troops in the Jan window then judge from there…
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Shelfsidejan Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Completely agree with the few comments above, though surprised I hadn’t managed to put 2 & 2 together re the yanks, not only UA but also the talk of AEG and all the US tours in recent pre-seasons.
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Northern Spur Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 11:22 am
@SpursSince67. This was the year I joined the WHL rollercoaster ride. Could have stayed a Man U fan but at age 7 I saw the light and never a dull moment since. COYS !!
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SpursSince67 Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Northern Spur, I should have been a Palace fan having grown up in Thornton Heath, but no, I’ve always had the courage to be different from my peers….but you’re right, what a Ride it’s been !
Stick with it as I have seen some incredible things in my life (England World Cup win, Man on the Moon, flown Supersonic, Iron Curtain falling down (helped someone escape East Germany in 80 to name a few) so I do believe we could lift the EPL and the CL cup yet, if not for me for my 8 year old…never let your dreams go….
November 20th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Until I see some flow to our game,AVB will be in the dock. When we get most of our players back there will be no excuses and then we can see if we do have a chance.
So far I havent seen much to be honest but if its AVB’s mind that is so astute and Levy is committed to more quality,then I am in but the results so far (not the scores) have not been impressive. Lets wait and see. I hang my hat on the quality of Tottenham.Not AVB.Not Levy.
I can only say ‘show me’ cos Im not listening any more.
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November 20th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Best news iv heard all day..
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November 20th, 2012 at 11:41 am
HH…I’m with you on this, has to be given time. Modric was always going and we got Dembele who started well. Unfortunately we have too many key players out to judge AVB at this point. Yes we’ve lost 3 in a row, but two were away to last years top 3 so always going to be difficult games. Redknapp would be in exactly the same position with the players we’ve had available this year.
You can’t expect miracles, what AVB is trying to do is take us from a top 4-6 side to consistently being in the top 3, something we have never been, so why shouldn’t he be given a chance?
And the boos really piss me off. How is that helping anyone? its not like we’re hovering above the relegation zone..its just moronic football fans who think booing will vent the frustration at their mundane shitty lives..
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JIM Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 11:49 am
LOL, top 3 !!!!! Holy crap, the dellusion bug is catching i see. Not a chance in hell mate. Seriosuly you need to wake up sunshine.
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Bigozzie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 11:52 am
you are clearly stupid..if you actually read it without jumping to conclusions you would have noticed i said that is what AVB and the club are trying to do(no shame in that). I didn’t say we would do it..you are probably one of the fans that boos no doubt..
In my opinion we will be 5th/6th this year, which is absolutely acceptable when you consider the transition.
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
I think trying to revolutionize the club in order to be competetitive under limited resources was always going to be difficult.
We have to be careful financially-whist retaining a good youth set-up-It’s a hard balancing act, but one we have no option other than to support it. The plan was always going to take time-time, when we’ve been challanging for the past three seasons-it’s getting those who demand instant success to see what we are as a club, and where we stand.
Many are forgetting, we’ve not only had a change in manager-the whole back-room staff, team ethic and philosophy has changed as well, and 3 months in you cannot judge- and it’s simply not realistic to do so
November 20th, 2012 at 11:46 am
We as Tottenham supporters have been crying out for many a year for consistency in the managers dept, even the doom and glooms have been bitching on about it for years. Well, that time is upon us, like it or not. We are in a transitional period, players are tabled with injuries, the doom and glooms will just have to show some stiff upper lip, shut the KCUF up and get on with giving the guy His chance and support He deserves, the window of opportunity opens again in January. Here we will see what kind of road AVB will be taking. I know where my support lays.
COYS!
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hoofing Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
He deserves, the window of opportunity opens again in January. Here we will see what kind of road AVB will be taking.
And the kind of road the man with the cheque book will be taking.
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Cornerpin Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Levy never buys in jan window.Plus Who the feck is he goner buy anyway?? What top player would want to come to a club that is going through a “Transition Period”?? Whats the point of giving him 2 years, so he eventually finds his feet and realises that the loan striker and high system doesn’t work, in the mean time we just about avoid relegation and the last of our “so called” top players want out! I say give him 5 years cos that how long its going to take. Get me a bit of rope now!
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OfftheShelf Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 4:04 am
‘Top players’ will come if you pay the money, we won’t pay the money, top players will not come.
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November 20th, 2012 at 11:46 am
trouble is harry, is that i have NEVER expected a top 4 finish and have always said that based on club resources that we should never be top 4.
However we were a laughing stock when we hired this clown and we still are. It was all so foreseeable that this maddness would fail yet still you lot put your heads in the sand like some religious fanatic, “it will all come good in the end, if i just keep believing”.
What an opportunity we had as a club and we blew it big time.
Our season is a mess anyway, so no harm in giving AVB the season now. Then we can judge him. Saying he will be here for two years is foolish. Nobody knows what next week will bring let alone next year.
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hoofing Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Our season is a mess anyway, so no harm in giving AVB the season now.
That’s very kind of you.
What an opportunity we had as a club and we blew it big time.
Which opportunity? Not the 13 pointer wasted by the previous incumbant that the author of the blog alludes to is it? Unfortunately I heard Blue Racist supporter who was happy that they were beaten at the weekend, ‘Brings us back daan to urth mate, yea its tuff dis league’ The gulf in class and history is obvious. AVB is managing the best he can with the best he has.
Nobody knows what next week will bring let alone next year. Exactly.
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stantheman Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
levy helped harry blow that 13 point lead,by not investing in january .time you harry haters woke up and realised it doesnt matter who manages us until we stop pissing around in the transfer market we will not compete with the top clubs in the epl.i say harry hotspur is adrian durram in disguise.(he wished).
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Bobbles Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Buried in here is the path to enlightenment.
The truth is that it doesn’t matter who the manager is, until we can (and do) spunk £20m+ on a single player twice a year we can never mount a sustained challenge for glory.
Man City had nearly £200m of striking talent in their squad against us the other week – in the long run that buys the 3 points more often than it doesn’t.
Bobbles Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 11:20 pm
JIM, I suggest you go put your head in the nearest oven asap. Life sounds like hard work for you.
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November 20th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Wunderbar….
Bet them ficklefuckers aint too pleased though…
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Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 11:57 am
There’s one just above you.
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Harry hater Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
There’s 2 above me!!!
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Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
We’re all above you, matey.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
I hear the rustle of quivering elbows!
SpursSince67 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Essexian 76, you bugger ! That sent my tea flying everywhere !! Well funny !!!
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November 20th, 2012 at 11:54 am
Heard the opposite last night on twitter from @thespursinsider I don’t know if he’s any more reliable than other sources but he made a few good or lucky calls in the summer re Moutinho and VDV going but the chairman has to stick with his choice otherwise he’ll look a “wolly”!
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
SpursInsider is a top bloke.
My info is from the same place that advised AVB was done and Ade was done. This doesn’t make it infallible but it does make it respected.
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Mitchell Thomas Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
thespursinsider’s profile has gawn. I sense a mystery afoot H…..
*Columbo turns back at the exit door*
“You know, there’s just one other thing that’s troubling me Mistah Hotspur….”
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Mistah Thomas, my wife… she’s a big fan of yours…
Smog Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
SpursInsider claimed we were signing Sturridge, Butland, Carroll, Llorente and a host of others. He did get a couple right as well to his credit. Jury’s out for me on his credibility. Instinct says bull though, like most ITK.
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November 20th, 2012 at 11:55 am
Real fans don’t accept second best! Real fans don’t keep quiet when things are going wrong! Real fans don’t abuse other fans every minute of the day because they don’t agree with the shit coming out your mouth! Real fans do boo there team when there team doesn’t fucking try hard enough! We know what you are Harry!
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
‘Real fans’ like ‘true fans’ are a sect created in the minds of small people who feel the need to stand on others in order to get noticed.
If you don’t accept second best why did you still back Arry when he was to busy preparing England team sheets to prepare Spurs ones?
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Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
will the real fan,I mean the real real fan, please stand up (He is probably in Madrid)
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Real madyid!
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Harry hater Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
I wanted Harry out just like you muppet features! ‘True fans’? never called you a liar!? Prick 1 or prick 2!
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Harry hater Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
I wanted Harry out just like you muppet features! ‘True fans’? Is this a term for an honest fan? Maybe muppet 1 and muppet 2 are mistaking or must I speak how you speak? I’m a real fan thanks!
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
@Harry hater
Do yourself a favour and leave the ‘prick’ etc out and focus on going for the kill using language that aids your debate, not distracts from it.
All this ‘twat this’ and ‘twat the other’ gives most right minded folk a headache.
Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
I like the swear words.Sometimes when the dinner itself leaves a lot to be desired some condiments will help.In some cases its all there is.
Ketchup for the Soul
Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
I can’t get up, my arthritis has kicked in.
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Steve Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Real fans don’t expect to be the best! Real fans keep supporting when things are going wrong! Real fans don’t abuse the team/chairman/manager every minute of the day because they don’t win every game 4-0! Real fans DO NOT boo there team when there team are drawing at half time! We know what you are Harry Hater!
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Ah, the myth of the ‘real fan’ rears its head once again. How comforting.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
This goes for Harry Hater too. (I’m reading this all backwards!)
stantheman Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
steve we know what you are ,harry hs arse licker.realfan real loser,likes losing lifes underachiever,but still happy.
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November 20th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Spurs is in my blood and I go through the highs and lows like everyone else, losing on Saturday hurt just as much as any other time. However, we as fans have to accept we are a club in transition and I hate to say it but a top 8 finish is probably on the cards.
Next year is when we can judge progress. AVB and his team can hopefully cement their system and integrate new players (their own) and play how he wants.
Patience is difficult when you want and expect to win but we need to change our mentality and this won’t happen from sept – nov.
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C.O.T.I Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
That’s exactly what I said at the begining of the season about expecting a top 8 finish this season and expecting signs of improvement next season.
You can’t expect overnight improvement on last season with a lesser squad.
As long as AVB learns from his mistakes and the team slowly improves year on year, I’d be happy.
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November 20th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Excellent.
Read the last few paras.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20407028
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Mitchell Thomas Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
That man is truly a human being of immense dimension. What a legend. Any new stadium must have a stand named after him IMHO.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Cut from different cloth. Such a decent bloke.
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November 20th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
At last! An article with a dose of reality. Too many Spurs fans have their expectations levels way up in the stratosphere! Come back down to Earth where real life goes on & not some fanciful Spurs utopia based on a modicum of success & 1 CL season. The impatiance is mind boggling! Its bad enough that every media pundit, writer & his donkley with an opinion is all over AVB like a rash in the vainglorious hope that if they pan him enough, their dire predictions will come true. Give the guy a break, I don’t think SAF would’ve survived at Manure with today’s fans & media, let alone the 5 barren years he was allowed.
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Cambridge Spur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Its comments like this that I just cant understand. Patience, transition, needs time, etc. Not sure how old the rest of you are but I’ve been listening to these statements forever, finally we get a bit of stability in Harry and guess what we should all be happy that we’re starting all over again. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed watching us over the last few years and for once being a Spurs fan I wasn’t the butt of all jokes. But guess what we ARE a laughing stock again. Back to statements of this time next year…Whats wrong with getting excited at the prospect of giving the so called big clubs a run for their money every year.
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Spuds-U-Like Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Nothing wrong at all, its just the totally unrealistic expectation that because a new man comes in, nothing will change & things will go on as before. Not sure how old you are either, but I’ve seen Spurs through some glorious & debilitating times over the last 50 years to not let expectations run away with me & cloud my judgement on how well we are or are not doing. I’m afraid its some of the overblown expectation of fans that make us the butt of derision from other fans & give those muppets on TalkSport all the fuel they’ll ever need to pour onto the flames of our desperation on their poor excuse of a sports station.
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spursgoliath Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
The fact that a mildly disappointing season makes us a ‘laughing stock’ probably says more about how other fans really want to see us than anything else. I think the phrase ‘man up’ springs to mind, changing manager is always a bumpy ride so you can either get on with it or boo hoo into your pint.
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spursgoliath Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:54 pm
That should read ‘mildly disappointing start to a season’!
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
@Cambridge..What exactly did you think you’d bought into when you opted for Spurs as your team of choice? What year did you begin ‘supporting’ the side?
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Cambridge Spur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Like most of you I’m sure, I was born into the Tottenham family and brought up as a spurs fan from 1979 by my father, can’t honestly say it was a ‘choice’. The problem I have now is that I have a young son of my own and have seriously began to question whether I should inflict this life onto him. Lets be honest the game is not what it used to be and the fact we’re all on a ‘blog’ bitching and moaning about a football team tells its own story of the effects of supporting Tottenham has on your life. I’m thinking of taking him to the rugby when he’s old enough.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
So, since 1979-Wasn’t that the season we got humped 5-0 at home to Arsenal?, wasn’t that the year we were in transition?, wasn’t that the year we hardly played to a full house?Wasn’t that the year we saw the likes of Galvin, Hughton, Miller being forced through the ranks-and buying the likes of Yorath, an aging mid to us shore up?-We are what we are-it’s never changed!
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
You’ve got a son, and introducing him to Spurs, is no difference to my own experiences-as I’ve had to convert all my nephews, my daughter and many other’s over the years-my nephew-call’s me up on regualr basis asks the same question ” Why, Unc-Why?”- but it has it’s own rewards also-like only two seasons ago- when in Milan, sitting on cloud 9-felt the same as I did as a kid watching Chivers bang a beauty at Molineux-it’s football
Cambridge Spur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Exactly! But we got a taste of the good life and I actually enjoyed it. Lets be honest we’re all a sadistic bunch and we’re not happy unless we’re moaning about something.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Me too, believe me I got into a lot of shit on here spporting the team, when doing so meant you were deemed to be supporting HR, which wasn’t the case-now I’m spporting the team again, but apparetly I’m now pro-AVB, which again isn’t the case. But I really cannot see how very different things would be right now under HR, as those who’ve left-would’ve left-and the injuries would still have happened. So all I’m suggesting is, give the bloke time, under settled circumstance-and not say ‘ told you so’, after 3 months under adverse condition.
Cambridge Spur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
The fact of the matter is we will never know how HR would have done under the same circumstances and just because I’m royally cheesed off with our performances this season doesn’t make me anti AVB. What I am is pro attacking, having a real go football and injuries or not I’m not enjoying the get a goal, defend for our lives mentality that we are currently seeing. For the record I have NEVER booed. Also the conspiracy theorist in me worries that when a team is struggling and things aren’t rosy in the camp more and more players become ‘injured’. I will continue to voice my opinions as we all do rightly or wrongly, but I can only see this going one way now and that is that Tim Sherwood will be our next manager, however nothing would make me happier than seeing our players return and AVB getting them playing like we’ve seen over the last few years.
Aristotle Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
The problem I have now is that I have a young son of my own and have seriously began to question whether I should inflict this life onto him.
Ah the agony of choice.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Just keep the faith-and of course inflict your pain upon your child-there’s no point in having kids if you can’t inflict a little of what makes them cry now and then-you’re allowed to have some pleasure you know?
Cambridge Spur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Nice one mate, that did make me laugh. COYS!
Hot_Spur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Cambridge – You really believe we had stability under Harry??? You’ve gotta be joking. He would have been out the door in a flash if a better offer came along, you call that stability?
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Cambridge Spur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Can you remember a time when we were more stable? And lets all be honest thats life, he wanted the England job. Who on here can honestly say they wouldn’t leave their job if offered something ‘better’ (not saying England but you catch my drift). The funny thing is I hated Redknapp as a person but we all need to take emotion out of it. None of us know these people personally.
November 20th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Ah Bad News! What a band. An inspired choice H, both episodes are high in the pantheon of great ‘Comic Strip’ episodes (‘Mr Jolly Lives Next Door’ being number 1 of course).
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Give me another drink Mr Bar – tender
If you don’t I’m going to stick your dick in a blen – der
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Poor man’s Spinal Tap for me.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:46 pm
The Tap cannot be touched.
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Mitchell Thomas Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Amen. None more Tap.
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
November 20th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Andres Villas Boas is set to become the Arsene Wenger of Tottenham Hotspur! I said it first, before any of you lot could’ve even thunk it!!
Kinda sad already that we’ll all hate him in 12-13 years for losing the plot after a good run…
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November 20th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
“Hey Mr Bassman
Get the fucking nightbus home”
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November 20th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Funny about these rumours but I heard the exact opposite from a good source and that there are serious concerns about AVB, time will tell I guess
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November 20th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
We will finish above Arsenal this year. Whether that’ll be enough for us to qualify for the Champions League remains to be seen, of course.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Will I get a promotion?
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November 20th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Dear long-suffering Spursfans and eternal optimists
How does it feel like when every Tom Dick and Harry kick around Spurs -not to mention Arsenal !!!
Do you still have faith in Levy and AVB? Do you blame AVB? If you do, please ask yourself who appointed him knowing his achievements at Chelsea? But who sacked Harry and other recent managers and who sold our best players without replacement and who appointed AVB anyway? Levy – a Spurs fan? A tough negotiator? Or just a money-maker tough businessman? You, the fans to judge.
I’m just another long-suffering Spursfan who sees no prospect for Spurs under Levy.
Unless you’re a teenage Spurs fan you don’t have a chance in your lifetime to see your beloved Spurs above your north London rivals – consistently, if you’re stuck with Levy first and then AVB. Spursfan.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Mate, what would you do with 36,000 seats worth of money every fortnight?
Do tell.
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
‘Eternal optimist’s’ indeed-yep, that’s being a Spurs fan right enough-nothing new there then!
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November 20th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
More pro AVB crap.
Clearly now Levy etc have settled for mid table rubbish. No further investment planned in Jan from what I hear.
Please come back Harry.
Harry Redknapps blue & white army boom boom boom boom
AVB out, Levy out
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Oh dear…
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Swido Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Darren out!!! Do ba di bi do!
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Darren Lake Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Pull your tongue out of HH arse pleeeeeaaaase
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the man from room five Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Dear Darren.
are you a budgy smuggler?
Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Redknapp is great but please he is much better on the coast than he will ever be inland.
People on the coast dont think,they just lie there.
This is an advertisment from Southern Rail.Dont worry about formations every pebble on Brighton beach will find its spot
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Dorset Spurs Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
So they don’t run around ahbit then?
The way Redknapp was acting towards the end of last season, he seemed he wanted a break from management. What he wanted from the England job and then from us everyone knew he would not get.
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
I don’t think you can catch a train from Fenchurch Street to there. Besides if you spend too much time lying “about a bit” on the beach, the Press Gang will get you.
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Who is your mole Darren,who told you that? Was it in the tealeaves or was it a secret microphone planted under DL’s desk? perhaps you’ve got info via the Daily Mail (always reliable)-or perhaps you’re making it up?
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the man from room five Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
I KNOW!
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
But does he live in hole?
November 20th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
I don’t know where all this “laughing stock” numptyism is coming from.
We have always been cast as unrealistic dreamers. What’s new?
One day…we’ll be back to our best. I’ve been saying that since the late sixties.
What irritates me is the fact that the facts of the past year have not fully been “open to the public”.
Did Levy hate Harry? Did Harry piss Levy off asking for a longer contract whilst DL was grieving and during a period of dreadful performances by the team – caused in the main by a dalliance between HR and the England job.
There is obviously a clause which prohibits the facts coming out. Both HR and DL have agreed to that…and even Jamie R is biding his time with the opinion which he undoubtedly holds.
I’m still thinking in terms of our procuring a £10m manager and how such sage owners/chairman of Spurs and Chelscum can all be wrong…and that the great unwashed are actually correct in their assertion that AVB is a disaster.
I’d like some players back, please. So does AVB. He must be bloody desperate!
We’ll be ok and will probably do quite well with Parker, Kaboul, A&E and Dembele back.
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Mitchell Thomas Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
I won’t be posting any football related missives on this thread as you’ve pretty much summed up everything I’ve been thinking in this post. Nice one.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
I’m still thinking in terms of our procuring a £10m manager and how such sage owners/chairman of Spurs and Chelscum can all be wrong…and that the great unwashed are actually correct in their assertion that AVB is a disaster.
This would be a better point if it wasn’t already a matter of fact that Abramovich effectively accepted he was wrong when he fired him. And if Levy had just a slightly better track record when it comes to hiring managers. Eh?
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Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Well thank you for making my point a better point.
I knew you had a purpose in life.
Back to normal, then, I see.
I’ll be making more points throughout the rest of my days…and I hope that you are there to readily improve them.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
wtf?
Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
WTF indeed.
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
WTF WTF indeed indeed
November 20th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
if ade didnt get sent off we had that game in the bag
we WILL do them at our place we WILL finish above them we WILL get champs league STAY POSITIVE.
and levy PLEASE give avb your full financial backing in the jan window (plus next summer) if he says we NEED a certain player then fricking get the cheque book out or this can NOT be considered fair.
COYS
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November 20th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Harry H is a big mouth clown. Harry Redknapp was the best manager we had in the last 20 years who delivered two top four finishes and a fifth place with a champions league quarter final thrown in. All he needed was proper backing from our joke of a Chairman in January and third place at least would have ben a formality. I have nothing against AVB but we didn’t need yet another transition period with a novice manager. Levy then compounded his mistakes by failing to back AVB in the transfer market and stripping the squad bare, so we can no longer cope with injuries. They are the facts, Harry H.
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Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
That’s not diillusioned.
That’s bloody stupid.
We are not privy to what goes on…but I do know that the future looks good.
New stadium in the pipeline; new training facilities; a decent youth policy at last.
In a couple of years you’ll still blame Levy for not delivering the UCL. Who do you want instead? You cannot kick owners out of football clubs unless they really want to go and Levy is doing an excellent job as far as the owners are concerned.
Will you unfurl the “Levy Out” banner at the next home game? Like Blackburn?
You are in the minority. Thank god for that.
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
So you honestly believe that if HR had stayed on-that we’d be in good shape-This, knowing we’d still lose Modric and all the others? Who do you think HR would’ve replaced Modric with? Who do you think Harry would’ve played during the current injury crisis? Would Walker still be shit because Harry didn’t sort him out last season, when his form began to wane did he?-So, how would keeping Harry really have made a difference do you think?
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
@Disillusioned fan
Just how has the collapse of communism effected you on a day to day basis?
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Urbane Stirrer Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
.
Hmmm…. the first half of Disillusioned’s post does appear to be factual and the second half fairly well reasoned if a tad presumptuous. Fair post I reckon but then I do suffer from a non reactionary zeal.
Nice work Dis’lusioned.
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the man from room five Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
I would question everything you have just said, but I couldn’t be arsed.
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Urbane Stirrer Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
.
I would query the point of your post but neither can I.
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November 20th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Why is it that all of the fans hating avb or liking Harry sound like they’re 14?
Dembele back according to tweeps, anyone know of any news on Parker, BAE etc?
Get our players back soon and 4th is still realistic, AVB needs some luck with injured/sent off players. 3 points against WH at the weekend and we’re back, COYS
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Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Dembele, Sandro and Carroll…I can’t wait to see how these three fare together.
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BrizzleSpur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Dembele’s back, yes, but please let’s not play him on Thursday eh?
klinsmannfan Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Yes that sounds like real quality and how good is Pritchard guys?…..I’ve yet to see him.
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November 20th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Oh and let’s get an addition in Jan to go with Ade, Kaboom, BAE, Parker, dembele coming back. Willian would do
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November 20th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
AVB FOREVER
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November 20th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
last feb arry redcrapp was offered a long contract,He declined, he declined not Levy. blame the trout for the position we have found ourselves in and get behind our current spurs manager who wants to be a success and is prepared to work hard for it.
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Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Yep.
HR wanted to keep the compo from England to a minimum.
Looks a bit stupid now, though.
Trouble is…that’s not what the papers printed. They preferred to ignore that little titbit.
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philmccrackin Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
TWITCHY OUT
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philmccrackin Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
TWITCHY was backed when he was up in front of the beak but decided to S**T on us.NOT WORTH THE INK.TWITCHY OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Got to love the McCrakin-not subtle but sure is effectice
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
As I said before-A guy goes out buy’s a gun and bullets-holds it in his own hand, then put’s to his own head and fires it-but somehow that’s classed as murder?
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November 20th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
HH, if this rumour is true then I think it’s pretty shocking. A few weeks ago our goal was fourth, nothing less. Now – again if this is true – AVB will be retained if we finish 17th or above.
From 4th to 17th in two months…talk about lowering expectations.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
‘Our goal’?
My goal has always been to make us world beaters.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
But first we need to have a few years of ‘transition’, right?
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Yes,that’s right
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Do we have a map or a plan to reach the promised land? Or can that all be summed up in the word ‘transition’?
Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Of course there’s a plan.
Hasn’t DL included you on the distribution list?
Bugger me.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
I’d have thought the word transition was self explainitary myself?
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Transition: The process or a period of changing from one state or condition to another.
In footballing terms, the ‘state’ is the level you have obtained. So I can only assume that what is being put forth is that we change from a 4th place team to a mid-table team as part of a larger transition which ends with us being a ‘world beating’ team. Right?
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
The point you keep missing is regardless of who the manager is, was or could be-this season was always going to be one of tranistion-you cannot lose key players, players that were instrumental in how our shape was, how the side balanced with them in it and so on. Injuries apart-and new arrivals considered-they would still have to bed in, play under different instruction and so on-what else would you expect?-a touch of realism is required on your part I think?
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Essex, the bloke said he had come here and agreed to finish in the top 4. So who is in need of a touch or realism? Me, you, or the chairman and manager?
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
You continue to say that-but as I’ve continually in response ‘don’t you think, just a second-that maybe, just maybe-DL would consider how things have panned out this far-and maybe, just maybe thought there are circumstances when things just don’t go your way-and then review his outlook accordingly? Investments are exactly that-they’re not windfalls or lottery wins-they’re longer term and hopefully higher yield-but certainly not immdeiate-unless you’ve a ready supply of magic beans handy?
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
I accept that things pan out differently sometimes. And I’d add that they can do that for different reasons. I’d argue that one factor in the way things have panned out thus far is AVB himself. His handling of the squad, his tactical planning and adaptation, perhaps even his footballing ethos itself – I’ve seen enough in the games thus far to be able to question all of these things. I don’t know that he will ultimately fail any more than anyone else knows he will succeed.
So yes, we may have to adjust our expectations due to a number of factors. A partially failed transfer window – for which both Levy and AVB should share some responsibility surely, some bad luck with injuries, which is blameless obviously, and lastly maybe the elephant in the room himself, if anyone is brave enough to mention him, that is.
Let’s get it straight. I’m not in a position to judge AVB in the long term. But I am in the position to say that his start hasn’t been great, and that’s taking everything into consideration. Without Modric and with the injuries, we still should have performed better in most of the games I feel. Do you really disagree with that?
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Absolutely disagree with that-and all the reasons are exactly the same reasons I’ve said time and time again-I won’t bore myself by listing them all out again in minute detail but the gist is-New bloke, new coaches-new players-massive injuries-constantly changing, having putting rounds in where squares should go blah,blah!
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Ok mate. If you think we haven’t currently got the resources to see off the likes of Norwich and Wigan at home, leave alone Maribor away, then we do look at things quite differently indeed.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
As pointed out in no uncertain terms-we’ve lost to Norwich at home and Arsenal 5-2(what were the excuses for that one!), Wigan at home, Stoke and Wolves at home-drew with Blackpool at home, drew with Wolves at home, lost to Wolve at home, Lost to Stoke at home-lost Utd every flippin’ year-so, it’s nothing new, but I’m hoping by ripping up and starting again, things MAY change, eh? Eternal optimist maybe-but you know-if you can’t see a problem exists-then you’ve no chance of making it right-right?
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Yes, we have a history of throwing points away to rubbish teams. And also throwing them away and getting our pants pulled down and our heads dunked in the toilets by good teams too. But even still, we would normally punctuate them with some decent attacking performances and results. We’ve had one good, stand-out result (and performance, and that’s being 50% generous), a whole lot of ‘meh’ results and performances and perhaps a couple more bleurrgh ones than is normally tolerable. Optimism that things will change for the better is definitely the way to go at the moment, but this doesn’t preclude seeing what has happened already for what it is. Not for me anyway. It’s been poor. imo.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
So, let me get this right, you know we’re an unpredictable team, you know we’re not a super team, you know we’ve got a new regime, you know we’ve got an abundence of injuries, you know why there had to be a change-but you expect free-flowing football, a winning team and a manager, director in tandum…..would you also like free admission and a pot of jam to go with that?
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Being facetious is one way around it, but up until about, I don’t know, last week, you were also admitting that the football we’ve been playing this season has been pretty turgid stuff and acknowledging that some blame for that must, surely must, fall at the feet of the person who is in charge of it all. But now it is all about injuries, time, transition, change, squad, etc etc. None of this stuff has any effect on a style of play which is quite obviously dull and not expansive or ambitious in the ‘Tottenham way’, and none of this explains bullshit substitutions and frankly bizarre assertions that we are controlling games we end up losing by 3 clear goals.
Problem here is, contrary to popular belief, I am quite capable of accepting that there have been some constraints and hindrances along the way. But unlike yourself and a number of others, that isn’t the only thing I allow myself to see.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
I have yet to see a decent game this seasn if you want to quote me correctly-but I’m neither niave nor stupid enough to think that this season was ever going to easy either-as regards playing style, and I’ll repeat myself..we have 2 strikers-right? 1 of which is injured, so how do we know AVB preferred playing 1 up front. When he dragged Defoe off for Ade, are we certain Ade was 100% fit or just needed a run out? Secondly-when you employ a Mouriho clone-you should expect a Jose style-keep ball-knock ball around etc-so I certainly wasn’t expecting a Harry style of play, that’s for sure-Would I have said turgid? Dire, boring and uninspiring maybe. But equally-I expect to see something take shape-some point and purpose-but if this insipid style continues-I’ll let you know LLL-because tippy-tappy doesn’t do it for me TBH,but I’m a patient man-well, a Spurs man to be precise!
Urbane Stirrer Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
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“My goal has always been to make us world beaters.”
My goal too, always, even under Ossie, francis, gross, santini & ramos.
Go on the AVB
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November 20th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
It’s near impossible to justify belief in a football team like Spurs without the benefit of a fully functioning crystal ball.
What I am certain of however is that Benny, Kaboom, Dembele and Parker are all on their way back. Can you imagine the impact that these guys will make on any squad let alone ours in it’s weakened state? We’ve done Manure away thats a bonus 3 points. Dropped points in tough away games like Citeh, Goons and Toons sure. You’ll have to forgive my optimism but those fixtures are out of the way so technically we can only get stronger and face weaker opposition.
There’s too much emphasis on the coach atm. I just want our players back. Any updates on their return? I can’t bear trolling through NewsNow.
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November 20th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Wasn’t the reason why a lot of fans got annoyed with HR was the whole “you’ve never had it so good” stuff. Saying “We have no right to be there” but yet you have a go at fans who aspire to the same level that you want. I am a big VB fan, think he will do a good job if DL backs him sufficiently but I hate this HR bashing as well. Would you boo HR HH if he came back to the lane (not as manager)but to say hello to the fans. He angered me like most fans but at the same time I am one of those fans that do not expect CL football and accepted that reason, some of the time, when HR said it.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
I wouldn’t boo him. As he means nothing to me. He’s an ex-employee.
When he’s held up as a saint, I’ll aid people in the re-evaluation but he’s just a punter now.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
If he means so little to you why are you literally always banging on about him?
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Luke Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Just an ex employee who gave us our first taste of CL since forever, does that not deserve some recognition or appreciation. I love to join in a chorus of I love Marin Jol whenever we play Fulham but he never got us CL. Just trying to get to the root of your blind hatred? As I said earlier, I was as angry as the next Spurs fan but in refelection I also realise he did a lot of good. Like he said, leaning out of his car window after he got the tik-tak “I left this club in a better condition than when I came into the job, that’s all you can do” granted he could of achieved more but it’s all ifs and buts not facts. Give the man his due, move on and get behind our current manager. That last part does not apply to you HH, I know you, like me, are behind VB just hate all the anti HR stuff as well
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philmccrackin Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Luke ,still preaching the Gospel according to TWITCHY?FFS he is a total DOUCHEBAG.
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Luke Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Not at all, did you read my post at all you mug?
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November 20th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
With our current available squad, I very much doubt that Redknapp would’ve secured a higher points return this season than Villas-Boas…
Only real difference would be the long list of excuses given on MotD and SSN
However, instead of the excuses we get a fair bit of football nonsense talk from our new manager
I didn’t mind Redknapp, i could ignore the sound-bites… he just lacked something. AVB does talk some serious shit, a more intellectual form of shit and again i can ignore that but he again lacks something…
Right decision to get rid of Redknapp, but i’m still to be convinced that V-B is the right man to take us on. Levy’s delivery in the transfer windows will prove whether he’s in it to win it with V-B at the helm… but i’m sceptical to say the least: Levy has rarely delivered in a transfer window…
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November 20th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Today’s blog:
- Makes no sense
- is a load of bollocks
Number one: embellish on your ‘source’ please. No quotes, no facts, no substance = bollocks.
Number two: Why would any chairman say any manager’s job is safe for 2 years? What if we were to be relegated? Seriously? Think about it, just a tiny bit = cobblers
Number Three: But the plan as I understand it is to factor in Boas’ resources, review what support the Club can offer and to forge a path that will offer longevity. What does this actually mean? = Balls
Number Four: Will this initiative designed to offer stability please those that claim to wish Spurs well but not the manager? Who the fcuk are these people? Figments of your imagination! = big, swinging clangers
Number Five: The worst thing that happened in recent times to this club was Arry screwing us over so blatantly after giving us a taste of Champions League football.
Come on. Who cares? He’s gone. Get over it! The fact that you are suggesting that Redknapp made such a disastrous contribution to our club that it technically allows the new manager to be completely terrible at his job indefinitely is really pathetic! = hairy saddlebags.
The saddest thing of it all are the people here who are falling over themselves to believe and cheer and celebrate this new exclusive load of old bollocks you’ve made up. People are really rather dim when it comes down to it, and will believe anything it seems.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Oh dear.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Care to expand? Didn’t think so.
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Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
I can see him falling out of love with footy sometime soon.
To be so angry at everything is just unsustainable.
Have a six month rest, ELELEL. You are killing yourself with vitriol towards all things Spurs.
Nobody can say anything without you wanting to put it in italics, bold or in numeric form.
Life’s to short.
Ask Stevie Perryman.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Jesus Christ. It really is a cult. Question the ‘logic’ of the faithful and you are a heathen, a non-believer, you should be banished.
Why can’t either of you engage intelligently with the conversation?
Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
What are you talking about?
A little over reaction, I think.
Typical.
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
I’m ‘falling out of love with football’, ‘angry with everything’ and ‘killing myself with vitriol’ and I’m overreacting?
Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Yep.
And accusing people, indirectly, of plagiarism?
A la Raj Persuad? If you’re going to quote a psychiatrist, quote a good one!
He’s similar to you, by all accounts. Makes a big noise in a small room.
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Plagiarism? What? When?
The whole point, which you missed, of naming Raj Persaud was because he is two-bob. I assume that LosLorenzo is not fully qualified. Get it?
Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Look him up you numpty.
I didn’t miss any points that you made.
Except of course, the fact that you are a big noise in a small room.
But you failed to comment on that.
Mmmmm.
On the couch Mr LLL.
Let’s see what you’ve got.
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Look up who? Are you still missing the point on Persaud? Or are you telling me LosLorenzo is a fully qualified shrink?
You are upset because I didn’t respond to your ‘big noise in a small room’ masterblow? How about this:
MIKE T Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 3:50 am
Harry Hotspur LLL talks a hell of a lot of sense. In fact he’s the only thing that makes me visit this platform right now.
I had noticed with amusement that your stance was shifting incrementally and could see how you were slowly starting to make tiny movements in the questioning of AVBs peculiar formations and tactical subs etc. Your hilarious belligerence that the manager should pay heed to your demands before one of the last two games (like he reads this) was actually very funny. You remind me of something off of Dads Army.
Anyway, this information you have may be as dodgy as the HMTL on your page. NO?
And the simple facts are this: If we carry on playing DRAB football and losing games he will lose the dressing room, Bale may leave in Jan, the crowd will become even more flat and then angry and they will be forced to fire the man.
I’m not a betting man but he wont last two seasons unless things change. It does not look different to his fiasco at Chelsea so far. Who in their right mind could say it was apart from your sychophantic fun boys on this page. God help us.
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November 20th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
The clappers have a new hashtag. Every time Spurs lose #arrysfault
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November 20th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Can’t see what all the fuss is about myself…
AVB is in a new job with new players and there was always going to be mistakes made, without the likes of Modric, VdV, King, PNB, Adebayor and Benny, if you compare his results to Rubberchops from last season against the same teams (swapping those relegated with those promoted) then AVB’s Tottenham is only 3 points behind Trouties side..I would imagine that if AVB had the same choice of squad this season that Saggy from Sandbanks had last season we would in the top 3 comfortably…..
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Some of what you say is valid. Perhaps I can ask you to honestly answer a couple of questions: How much have you enjoyed any of the games we’ve played this season? How confident have you felt watching us play this season?
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Hartley Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
I would compare the first half of this season to the second half of last season….
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
But the second half of last season was awful, and continues to be cited as the key reason Redknapp had to go. So why are you so happy with a similar run of form under the new manager?
Hartley Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
I’m not happy about it, I’m not sad about it either. I’m realistic…AVB has a tough job to do, getting a team playing together without it’s best 2 creative players from last season. As far as I’m concerned he has done extremely well so far, we look hard to beat, we are still scoring goals and we are still in amongst the mix…all you could ask for really given the circumstances.
The one thing I am happy about is that we dared to do and got rid of the man who was never in a month of sundays going to win anything…
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
I disagree with you that we look hard to beat, and I think the results back me up, but leaving that to one side…
How long can this run of bad form – bad enough to sack the last manager in your opinion – continue for AVB? When do you expect / want to see an improvement in performance levels and tactics?
Hartley Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
AVB has a brand new team minus it’s two best players and an injury list longer than any under our previous illustrious leader…we still have 17 points from 12 games and we have played everybody who matters….
Rubberchops had a full squad that he had worked with for the past 2/3 seasons and the team were in a wonderful position in the league with confidence oozing and he single handedly fucked it up…
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
I really wish that the general debate would move on from lingering over Redknapp’s tenure and comparing and contrasting. I’d say it was in your interest as a an AVB fan too as it is starting to look more like an unfavourable comparison.
But anyway, to carry on with it, to suggest that Redknapp never had an injury list of 5 players out to contend with is to demonstrate an incredibly dull memory.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
You see there you again ‘Bad enough to sack the last manager’ The results and league position had absolutely nothing to do with HR’s sacking-he said so himself-It was his constant media whoring and self interest that did for him-nothing else
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Getting two things mixed up there I think. Firstly, none of us know the reason why he was actually sacked and I wouldn’t personally say it was any one thing as fact – because I don’t know the facts. Secondly, I was citing this as a key reason people argue that he deserved the boot.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Gordon Bennet, Harry flippin’ Redknapp-you know the bloke, saggychps a bit of a ruddy complextion-you must have heard of him?-Well anyway-He said and I quote “Even if I’d have finished 3rd, and Spurs had qualified for the CL, I’d have still got the sack” Well, how the flippin’ hell can that statement allude to anything other than ‘a clash of personalities’-as it’s Clearly sod all to do with results is it?-Horse’s mouth and all that jazzzzzzz!
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Since when was anything delivered from that horses mouth received with anything but all the salt the pacific ocean has to muster?
I don’t want to get bogged down in that detail as it isn’t related to my point really. But I’d say that another aspect of Redknapp getting the boot was to do with him not getting on with Levy full stop, and Levy wanting a younger more streamlined model. That even fits with Redknapp’s quote, there are in fact lots of ways of reading the situation and seeing as how Levy’s never explained himself, we can only guess.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
How about on BBC during the Euro’s, conclusive enough-unless you actually want me try to find the clip?, it’s bound to be on there I reckon?
Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
LLL, you keep doing this thing of taking this season’s performances and results in isolation to personnel.
That’s [respectfully] nuts.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Not at all. What I’m doing is looking at what happens as it happens and reacting accordingly. Hence, as an example, when AVB does a rubbish with a substitution or a tactic, I notice this and it makes me unhappy with AVB, not with Redknapp for wanting a different job 9 months ago or with God for cursing AVB with bad luck.
philmccrackin Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
ELELEL, AVB IS GOD
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philmccrackin Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Saggy from Sandbanks “ACE”
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November 20th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Dembele’s is back apparently…thank f@ck for that!
Even tough we don’t have to beat Lazio to progress, might be a good idea methinks, they lost 4-0 to Catania the other day, could have been more by all accounts.. COYS!
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November 20th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
It would aid debate if those with a specific gripe stuck with it.
So, ‘Harry sympathetic’ comments are impossible to engage with when people responding to them are then asked, ‘Why do you keep mentioning Harry?!’
Sadly is mostly aimed at LLL, a dog chasing cars.
I don’t mean to patronise [then does so in seconds] but please collect your thoughts so we can actually discuss this with some sense of rationality.
In the long term, you’ll thank me and this comments section will be a better read.
Redknapp is dead. Roadkill. Gone. Never coming back. I’m not crowing, simply sharing.
So readers wishing to comment need to make a contribution actually worth reading, engaging with.
Wow.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Hotspur.
Every time I or anyone else makes a point you can’t argue with, you don’t bother trying. You swerve it by either completely ignoring it or making a stupid remark, and then elsewhere blurt out something sanctimonious and self-important such as the above. But where is the substance old bean?
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Sounds like you aren’t enjoying it here.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
See what I mean?
LosLorenzo Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
“makes a point you can’t argue with”
Why would anyone bother arguing with a point that is impossible to argue with?
The reason a lot of your points are impossible to argue with, LLL, is that they are in fact your opinions. Nothing wrong with stating your opinion, mind. It’s just not worth arguing with.
Such as your opinion above, that when HH “can’t be bothered” to answer you, it’s because you have somehow ‘stumped’ him. My opinion is that it is just as likely that he is declining to reply because there is nothing to reply to.
This blog comment section stuff isn’t a sport. People come on here to say what they’re thinking about Spurs, and read what other people are thinking. Discussion can be enjoyable, too. But having pretty much every post, that happens not to align with your personal worldview, dissected down to the definition of each word, syntax, spelling, etc. is not what most people are looking for. It is not what people generally respond to.
I’ve read a fair few of your posts, and it (my opinion) is clear to me. You have a massive confirmation bias, and project your self-criticism onto others. Plenty of times you do exactly what you’re accusing HH of now. In stead of engaging with the point people are actually trying to make, you latch onto some factually incorrect peripheral detail like a rabid dog, and don’t let go. And because, in your mind, you have found a chink in their armor, their entire point must be invalid.
I know where you’re coming from. I was exactly the ame at your age. Take it from me, though. Sooner or later you’ll see why so many (not everyone, I know) take a dim view of your posts. It’s not that your opinions and points are bad ones. You make a lot more sense than a lot of others around here. It’s more the way in which you make them, and your inability to see any perspective other that the one you are espousing on any given day.
You’re a fairly talented debater. Maybe even a masterdebater (
). But you’re not always right. It’s just that anybody with eyes can see that there is no swaying your opinion, no matter what they say. In short; if you’re 198% certain of everything you say, and unwilling to listen to counterpoints, what is the point in descussing things with you?
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
The reason a lot of your points are impossible to argue with, LLL, is that they are in fact your opinions.
Well spotted.
Nothing wrong with stating your opinion, mind. It’s just not worth arguing with.
Just mine, or do you mean it’s not worth arguing with opinions in general?
Such as your opinion above, that when HH “can’t be bothered” to answer you, it’s because you have somehow ‘stumped’ him. My opinion is that it is just as likely that he is declining to reply because there is nothing to reply to.
It’s my opinion that he does this quite regularly, and not just to me. It’s my opinion that he argues something, quite strongly in terms but flaky in substance, someone disagrees with him and puts their opinion over decently enough, and he typically fails to respond or else offers some kind of discourteous, patronizing remark.
It’s my opinion that opinions are in fact there to be shared and debated. Perhaps argued even. I often find the tone of the main blog here sanctimonious, lacking in substance and overly judgemental and scathing of people with different opinions. That’s all fine. I could accept that if there was the willingness to engage with the counter debate just as vigorously as your own argument is put across. But it never is. And the fact that the majority of people here tend to want to agree with HH (that’s natural I suppose, it’s his blg), means that these points are never really treated fairly in the comments section. That’s probably the reason I’m argumentative here – because there is a lot of shared consensus which seems in fact to be based on pretty wobbly ground, and just as little tolerance for people with different opinions.
And I’m quite willing to listen to counterpoints. You might have probably noticed me asking for a response on a number of occasions. I think I’m right, we all do. But I know I may not be right all the time, and all I would ask is that other people test their own opinions if they also hold them as strongly as they seem to.
As for the rest of the post, please spare me the somewhat patronizing psycho-analysis, Raj Persuad.
LosLorenzo Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
So yet again you prove impervious to the point being made and/or unwilling to reflect on your own role in any of this.
Duly noted…
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Hmm. Perhaps I’m thick. Can you tell me, in brief terms for a dummy like me, the point I missed and wouldn’t reflect on?
Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Your typing skills are brilliant.
I couldn’t hope to answer posts as quickly as you do.
Your grammar is exemplary.
Especially for a fourteen year old.
And a credit to your over indulgent parents for letting you spend so much time on the blog.
However I would recommend other sites. There are others available – as the BBC frequently states.
What your mind and fingers come up with is quite different, however.
As a two fingured typist – I salute you.
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Bruxie, I see you have basically thrown in the towel now, as you are basically directing at me nothing more than vaguely inscrutable insults. I shan’t lower myself to your level. You cheeky little sausage.
LosLorenzo Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Long day at the couch?
MIKE T Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 3:54 am
hh you are acting more like the snappy dog##
lll seems to be trying to make sense of your blind support and thats all
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MIKE T Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 3:56 am
and when i say blind support i mean of AVB
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November 20th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
a funny description of him from another blog:
“He looks like a German submariner five weeks into a voyage and he has a voice like an industrial accident”
Levy has to back his man for the long term this time.Harry was an old pro who no doubt made a lot of mistakes on the way – not in the glare of the redtops.
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November 20th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
All this sarcasm about the importance of AVB versus Harry as though AVB had a clue. David Moyes wanted the job and wasn’t approached. At least we knew he could do the job. With AVB it’s perhaps he got a raw deal at Chelsea (with fingers crossed). You might cross everything you’ve got because, when we drip feed players to ‘next level’ teams because of AVB’s inability to get us there, his bum lickers will soon revolt and he’ll end up like Ramos, out on his ear. Levy has made a monumental mistake here and the cover-up won’t last out the season. My opinion.
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Hot_Spur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
So you “knew” that Moyes could do the job?? Well I wonder how you could possibly “know” that?? Moyes has been at Everton 10 years, their trophy cabinet is absolutely bulging with all the cups he’s won isn’t it.
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kranky Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Yeah he gets no money whatsoever.
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November 20th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
The first piece of great news on the club’s long-term project together with AVB. Much welcomed! In order to bring Spurs to their very high ambitions – we’re talking about EPL titles and Champions League trophies, or at least put the club as close to those as possible to challenge genuinely – Spurs will need to adopt a higher level of football, that means a more continental and sophisticated approach than traditional British ways. In order to do so, stability is of utmost importance, with AVB backed for a time of at very least of 2 years. During this transitional period, there may be poor performances every now and then in the quest to achieve a brighter future. Of vital importance too, is getting the right players that fit the coach’s philosophy. Arguably, only 2-4 players right now are suited for that, so Levy must continually bring in new faces THAT THE AVB WANTS over the next transfer windows.
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November 20th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
I like AVB….
Maybe a touch misguided in his persistence with Gallas but other than that all is good.
People forget we are missing Kaboul, BAE, Dembele & Parker.
Depending on chosen systems 3 of those are grunted starters and as. Back up Parker would always come before Huddlestone ….
I still think by end of season we will be either 4th or 5th and in honesty I will take that ( cup would be a huge bonus)
One last thing Talk Shite suggested the players were not up for the fight against arsenal in the 2nd half!!!! I don’t agree
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
People forget we are missing Kaboul, BAE, Dembele & Parker.
With respect, seeing as how we all watch the games and see them not playing, and that we are reminded 567 times here each day that they are injured, I don’t think many people have forgotten that.
I still think by end of season we will be either 4th or 5th and in honesty I will take that ( cup would be a huge bonus)
I would most certainly take that too. I’m not sure we will get it though, and a lot of people seem to be adjusting their acceptable returns to a mid-table kind of placing. I think that mid to lower table – if it happened – would be a big failure of chairman, manager and playing staff.
Also, I would like to see some enjoyable football again sometime this season. If you don’t mind, like. And I also don’t want to see celebrations and smiles from our coach after getting hammered 5-2 by Arsenal.
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BrizzleSpur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
I see you’ve made the switch from BOLD to Italic, looks a lot classier!
He is right to point out that it would be unfair to evaluate the manager based on the performances of squad players not his first eleven. Wouldn’t you rather be evaluated in a fair test of your skills?
The Premiership is a funny thing. Teams on the brink of CL glory fade away into mid-table mediocrity almost overnight. And visa versa too I suppose. But sometimes you need to go through hell to get where you are going and I imagine that this is the sentiment of a lot of Spurs fans who are desperate for the Club to have a solid identity that can be maintained for years to come.
No more magicians and their tricks. No billionaires and their bucks. Just a lot of professionals working diligently over a long course of time to create a winning formula.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Yes, I get it, we all hope that Spurs will be good one day. And to a greater or less extent, we are all blindly faithful, it’s the nature of it. So to say that anyone would hope that AVB fails or is sacked just doesn’t make sense. I hope he shows himself to be a better manager than he has shown / has been able to show so far. I really do!
But I can understand there is mistrust and scepticism at the club too. I don’t agree with them, but I can perfectly understand those who didn’t want Redknapp sacked. The results and stats are clear and pretty difficult to argue against. It’s the continual swerving of these issues and the wilful blindness to any mistakes AVB may be making or the poor quality football we have delivered which irks.
We all hope that he will succeed. Some people are still angry about Redknapp – and that won’t go away until AVB proves a ‘worthy’ successor whether AVB’s fans like it or otherwise. Some people are happy to commit AVB to a 5 year contract now, so confident they are in his ability. Some people are more sceptical about it all.
November 20th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
we should buy Moussa Sissoko in Jan so we have a legitimate backup to Dembele. The lack of depth in our squad is scary, and probably the reason all of our injuries are killing us.
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November 20th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
some steel at the back please.
a reliable captain.
some tactical nous.
then we’ll rock.
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cookiebun Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Sounds like your saying a new manager with a tactical sense and about four players.
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November 20th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Reinstate AVB now!!!!!! or else
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November 20th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
If he stays for the duration of the season we will be down with QPR dumb ass!!!!
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November 20th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
he should be sacked for his comments after the Arsenal game alone. Its bad enough being embarrassed on the pitch without your manager saying you dominated a game that you lost 5-2 and having your rivals boss laugh!
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 8:55 am
Paulhasissues.
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November 20th, 2012 at 3:45 pm
Perhaps AVB should wear a beret on match day.
Viva la transition.
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LosLorenzo Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Hasta la mid-table siempre!
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November 20th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
We should buy Messi and Ronaldo and Ibrahimovic and get Jose Mourinho as our new manager and then buy Iniesta and Xavi and Tevez and Aguero and Van Rapist and Rooney and Suarez and play them all at once so we don’t need defenders, that should keep the ficklefuckers happy…..
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Hartley Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
Sorry…just practising for the upcoming school holidays….LOL
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November 20th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
It’s a bit early for the dreaded Vote of confidence from the club isn’t it?
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
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bob Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
this isnt a vote of confidence. If it was a vote of confidence they would be saying this to the public, not us hearing it from a source on the inside.
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November 20th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Does my bum look big in this?………..
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Massive.
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notsohotspurs Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Your thong is showing
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Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
“Why?
Do you want it to?
Then you’ve succeeded”.
Got me in trouble, that little responsc.
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Just trying to take the sting out of the poisonous in-fighting on here………..or wanted a honest opinion on how my batty looks in pink spandex……..who knows………..who cares?………
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November 20th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
What a load of bollocks!
VB will only stay for as long as he’s got the dressing room on his side.
If you wait till season’s end before criticising anything, the teacher’s pets on here, like head prefect essexian, accuse you of using hindsight. I couldn’t stand the last bloke and got a lot of stick for rumbling what a wanker the bloke was way before the majority did. Could I separate my hatred of him from the club? Of course I could, and so did you.
VB should be given more time and support, but it’s naive in the extreme to think that Levy wouldn’t oust VB should he lose the dressing room, or give in to the horrible fans if the poor displays were to continue for some time (regardless of whether relegation looms or not).
This “we’re only poor little 36000 Tottenham, AVB has a right to bore everyone to death and finish mid table” might wash with the arse lickers, but not with me. If that is the case, then why not give the job to a manager with a proven premier league track record until the stadium is built?
Handing the job to an inexperienced manager and then not backing him was lunacy, and for my money will backfire massively. Tottenham isn’t a job where you cut your teeth. Instant results are now the nature of the beast whether those harping on about stability like it or not.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Good points. Well made.
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Yeah, like giving the job to a manager with a proven EPL pedigree-just as I’d hoped for in David Moyes,-unfortuneatly Levy didn’t want to-so we’ve got AVB instead-but as I said-supporting Spurs today now equates to supporting AVB and HH according to you in your tiny mind-and last season, when I was supportive of the team-you labelled me a Harry Happy Clapper!.. how strange how you can seperate the two yet I can’t? or are you playing just playing Devil’s advocaat..that’ll be a cocktail made with rotten egg,jealousy, a touch of bile with a dash of slime!
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notsohotspurs Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
If we continue to dominate games from the first minute till the last minute and get turned over
5-2, AVB will be gone before Christmas.
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Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Arselickers to whom, TWNN?
I cannot help feeling that the balnced views are being lumped in as HH lovers.
This is a blog for god’s sake. Are you seriously suggesting that there is a playground politic that sides with the so-called head honcho?
We might like the blog – all of us – and we keep coming back.
But you, LLL, ODM and a lot more have genuine views and it’s pretty damning to pigeon hole posters as arselickers.
Tell me what you think. And if you want to name names – do so.
This “two camps” (or more?) of Spurs supporters is tiresome.
And if someone plays devil’s advocate – then accept it. Including the headline writer.
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TMWNN Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
HH must have the cleanest arse in the blogosphere.
Nothing wrong with a bit of Devil’s advocate; I dabble in it myself from time to time – keeps it spicy, but it’s funny how all the ‘balanced’ views weigh down on the side of the happy clapper.
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Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
So.
The arselickers remain unnamed.
And the advocates come out on top.
As always.
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
@ Bruxie…You’ll just go around in circles arguing with that fool and end up with him saying ‘It’s all Levy’s fault’ thought I’d save you an awful lot of time
Topspur100 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
The real shame is that the big debate today should have been about our playing Captains comments, namely that we will miss Ade badly and worst still the fact that ‘confidence is low’.
We are just about one third of the way through the season and already we have a player telling us that confidence has to be rediscovered.
I wonder who’s brought him to say things like this?
Harry, Levy or AVB?
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Head prefect?, yeah,I suppose it’s better than the class dunce?..now back in the corner and put that hat back on-there’s a dear
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November 20th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
spoken to all my itk’s
as ever hh a load of bullsh1t
now i can sleep easy knowing this prat won’t last much longer
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Alspur Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
all of them? how many wankers do you hang around with?
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
a handfull… boom-boom!
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November 20th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
My source tells me it is total rubbish and that the man is on a set probation period.He was a bit pissed though
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Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Your source was on the sauce?
Or was AVB angry at the probation thingy?
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koko61 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Haha ..I think a bit of both mate.
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November 20th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Perhaps when Chelsea appoint pepe we will inherit rdm! What with rdm and avb . Can’t we just have Steve Clarke
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November 20th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Was just thinking how LLL and Bruxie would do reprising ‘Monty Python’s Argument Clinic...”
LLL ” Is this where I go for an agument?”
Bruxie “What did you say, you useless pile of parrot droppings?”
LLL ” Look,I only came for an agument!”
HH “Sorry chaps, I thought he said abuse!:
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Bruxie Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
A 10 minute argument , please.
Have you got any left?
I only came on here for the company.
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the man from room five Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Can I just say that this my first time on television?
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November 20th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
i think everybody is right.
except me
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Hartley Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
I think you’re right…..
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
I’d like to pick you up on that.
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November 20th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Going back to the original point, the notion that a chairman who has never shown his cautious side when it comes to dislodging managers has now had a complete switch-up in thinking is a complete and utter joke. Some supposed ITK are now saying that a loss to West Ham will see him out the door. I don’t believe that either, but to suggest that Levy would tolerate a continued show of poor results, worse performances and sinking morale in the view to a longer term ‘two season’ plan is not only naive but shows that you haven’t taken notice or paid attention to our recent history.
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November 20th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
To many clowns thought CL football was a god given right , I could not agree more HH these clowns applauded Harry’s sacking. I would be quite happy for AVB to whore himself to the press and not lie about wanting to take the only post I wouldn’t mind him leaving Spurs for if he played attractive football and got us to finish 4th. Not wishing HR well but wanting Spurs to do well did not make sense . The pro AVB mob again using arguments that contradict their position when HR was in charge , he had proved himself AVB has not … What’s his excuse going to be this week boys? , my money’s on played well but couldn’t handle A Carroll for one second and it cost us and injuries and the crowd getting on the teams back ,Maybe a sending off or an egotistical dressing room.
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November 20th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
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Just noticed that Nicholson was in charge for 16 years and during the past 16 years we’ve had 12 managers.
Yikes.
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
I pointed out yesterday Billy Nick took a side finishing 4th and managed to secure 18th place in his first season-furhthermore Burkinshaw took over a side in 9th place and got us relegated-but they didn’t turn out too bad-considering neither had any managerial experience to fall back on! All history-but they precedents nevertheless.
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4 Ever Hopeful Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Sometimes it is all on the slenderest of margins. I believe that in the final game of 77/78 season, when we drew 0-0 at The Dell, Southampton hit the post and thus kept Brighton in 4th spot. We went up, signed the Argentinians (I know and John Lacy) and soon after were winning cups. Otherwise Burkinshaws tnure would likely have been pretty brief.
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Well that was another point I tried to emphasis-KB had to build three sides in as many years-one to get us out of Div2, another to remain in Div 1 and another to push on even more-it took 5 seasons from the lowest point in our then recent history to winning cups from 1981-1984-hardly an overnight success was it?
November 20th, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Hah, hate Arry yet love the club? Hate AVB and you hate the club?? AVB has me in a quandry. He picks dicks and blames the defence! He takes off a striker for a striker when we need to win! He waits til half time to change formations. By which time we go from 1-0 infront to 3-1 behind? That said he has fuck all to chose from. The real problem is players like Huddledonkey and Dawsososlowandthick. They look like they might do a job yet fail every bloody time they’re needed. AVB with his own team..I’d like to see that! Willian, Diamao et al..! Yas dreaming! Levy will not pay for the fee or the wages. I’m sick and tired of being fed bullshit. Parker back in light training is great news. Dembele’s personal coach has given him the all clear too..even better. All we need now is for Benny to came back. Or does he still hate AVB? Once Kaboul is back we need to sell Huddledonkey and Dawsososlowandthick so we can get some “proper” players in. BTW I hate redcrap, we’d be further in the shit if he had this squad so maybe AVB does have something? Just dunno what yet. Wet Ham above us is not good. See defo a quandry. It would be good to have a manager stay the course. Will be interesting to revisit this thread in Jan-feb if we’re tenth. Will we still want him then, for a few more years?
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November 20th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
just got home from work and the kids are fighting again on here, how dull
We showed a bit of something Saturday Dembeles back lets dream a little about beating Lazio and Spammers
Redknapps gone AVBs in support him or piss off
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November 20th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Bye, this is my favourite blog but boring reading tonight
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November 20th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Just read that Barca are looking at Pritchard and Shaq from Next Gen, I hope we tell them to shove off, Pritchard is mustard and the Shaq isnt too shabby either.
Get them in the January squad AVB
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
I thought they can play anytime AVB picks them on account they’re under a certain age.
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4 Ever Hopeful Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
I don’t think there is a need to register players that young and they do not count in the 25 but I may be wrong.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
No, you are not…
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November 20th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Guess im on my own oh well its more fun
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November 20th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Champions of Europe my arse.
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Steveo1987 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Juve telling the truth…
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Forza Juve!
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November 20th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
RDM as next Blue Racists sacked manager odds have been slashed by WH.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Maybe we can hire him next Summer? He has won the CL and FA cup after all…
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Mexbrit Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 2:45 am
Would that nice Mr Abramovich posibly like to give AVB a second chance, please?
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November 20th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Willian scored 2 great goals tonight, one of them a real banger. Think that’s another ship which may have cruised off…
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November 20th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
does anyone know if ekotto is ever going to play again
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4 Ever Hopeful Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Or Parker?
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Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Parkers back doing light training, but no date as yet
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November 20th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
H.H, your hatred of HR is obviously down to an intense dislike of the man, him delivering our highest ever league finish in the Premier League twice seems not to have registered with you to any degree whatsoever.
That’s fine, but your dislike of him seems to boarder on the irrational. I guess that’s fine too but could you possibly find it within yourself to try and mention his name without following it with the same insults every time? I feel his aforementioned achievements count for something and you don’t have to be a ‘Arryite’ to appreciate that in my opinion.
I am in no way a ‘Arryite’, i can’t stand the knee-jerk AVB stuff going on at the moment or the section of the press that clearly hate AVB’s guts and yes, big up HR constantly. I just feel that both managers are good at their job in quite different circumstances. AVB with a lot to prove but it’s a time thing with him.
I don’t understand this idea that if you rate HR’s achievements that it should mean you should want AVB strung up every week and vice versa. I admit i wasn’t that sure about AVB, (who would of been lets be honest) but he has honestly grown on me. I think he has obviously got his own methods and has had to work through the cultural minefield of working here after Portugal but there are signs for me that he could end up being very good for us over the longer term. The club possibly recognise this, hence your latest post HH.
Give him time, lets get the players back and then see how he gets on. We lost at the new Library 5-2 with Harry, we also lost to Wigan at home didn’t we? The only thing is, he must play a more open brand of football at home and possibly he’s recognised that now. It has been pretty shite at home lets face it!!
He has a tried and tested formation from his Porto days, who can blame him from using it? Perhaps if we had someone of quality in behind the striker rather than Dempsey it may have worked better but perhaps we don’t have all the players to play that way and he’s changed it. Credit to him.
You can like Arry AND the Ginger, it’s allowed you know and there is no law against it…
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4 Ever Hopeful Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Your opening two paragraphs are excellent. There has been a persecution of HR on this site that has been unnecessary and too personal. He had reached his sell by date but he also had a 4, 5, 4 PL record. It’s probably time to move on.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
This is true and I remember when HH’s sack campaign got started, I found it pretty fickle and distasteful myself, which is ironic I suppose. Eventually Redknapp’s bullshit, which had always pissed me off no end, began to be accompanied by a string of poor results and a lot more bullshit, so I was happy to see him go. But for all of that, I can’t knock his record here. For all the talk of blowing 3rd spot, how we would all love for us to finish 4th this season.
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East Stand Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
That’s it, to disregard the league placings as some kind of fluke or whatever just because you don’t like the personality of the bloke isn’t a rational judgment of the situation is it?
I personally don’t care for ‘personalities’ or how people are portrayed in the media because there is always some kind of angle or a quote taken out of context etc to fit the stereotype they have built for people.
It’s how they do their actual job that matters, honestly it’s the only thing. The rest is about content for an increasingly hungry, and diverse media machine essentially to sell advertising and really nothing more.
HR was once asked if he was a ‘wheeler dealer’ (the ‘Barra Boy’ image thing) which he hated and rebuffed it as only he knew how to. In exactly the same way just yesterday the Mail decided to show a closeup of AVB’s notebook and slag the guy off for having the cheek to be in possession of one and even worse looking at it at 1-1 away with a man just sent off an an attempt to portray him as some clueless statistics guy with no passion for the game. Both are examples of creating and affirming preconceptions which are based on a lowest common denominator, media stereotype.
Why is all this bullshit relevant to anything? To me it’s just not. I’d rather judge someone employed to do a job on that job and that job alone. Not some cartoon bollocks portrayed by one dimensional media coverage and radio ‘debate’.
We’re all being duped man, tell it to the people!!
Essexian76 Reply:
November 20th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
But at the same failed to mention Breden Rogers’ notebook-or was that because Liverpool won I wonder?
TMWNN Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 12:44 am
Completely different situations. Attempting to compare the two is simplistic.
November 20th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
“We know who we are”
“We know who we are”
“Out at the group stage”
“We know who we are”
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November 21st, 2012 at 12:13 am
Harry, getting rumours from theSPURSInsider that AVB has 3 games to save his job. https://twitter.com/theSPURSinsider
Go to 19 November. You’ll see it. Any thoughts? I’m very concerned about this. I hope your insider is right.
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Chirpy Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 6:31 am
Unhelpful guesswork, nothing more
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November 21st, 2012 at 12:52 am
Was Levy Stupid or Brilliant?
Buying S
Dempsey.He was voted again as the top athlete or whatever in the States.
Beckham is leaving the US.
A Payday for Levy?
Perhaps.
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November 21st, 2012 at 1:33 am
Givge AVB a break guys.Its early days.And he has had rotten luck,with injuries to major players.Even on Satuurday against the arse,until Aby got himself sent off,we looked the better team.Shit happens in football,unfortunately it happened against the arse.Hopefully with the return of our injured players,we can tun things around.The arse may well have won last Saturday,but,it really only covers up,the cracks in there team.The only thing that worries me,is why Huddlestone starts,yes he is technically good.But far too slow,for the premership.And gets caugth out time and time again.
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November 21st, 2012 at 2:39 am
arry was a spiv
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 9:18 am
Arry IS a spiv.
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Arry was/is a spiv in his past life!
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East Stand Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Yes he is a spiv, nothing less nothing more. managing the team to our highest ever Premier league placing twice proves that. He has no other abilities other than that of a spiv…
November 21st, 2012 at 6:21 am
Not long till February and i can change Dans name to ( 1 league cup in 12 years Levy ).
As for empty seats, if you put on a show the people will come.
The thing that concerns me most under Avb is win, lose or draw the football is dross.
Lets hope he gets a couple of top players in and that the football excites again.
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Chirpy Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 6:58 am
I am confident that Levy’s priority is NDP and his strategy may include continuing to cash-in on the club’s ‘star’ players (generating revenue and reducing costs), which in turn may also provide his new manager/project additional time in which re-build/shape the squad.
Ignoring injuries, as every side has those, our squad is degraded from the previous season: Dembele is no substitute for Modric and VdV (Sig replaced Kranjcar; Dempsey replaced Saha; Adebayor replaced Pav)and it is unrealistic to expect any new manager to come in and improve on last season with ‘less’ – in real terms, if you are not moving forward, you are going backwards.
We may not like what AVB is trying to achieve on the pitch – personally I don’t – but we should still continue to support him. Whether AVB recovers the situation or not, let us not forget it is Levy(‘s decision making) that put him/us where we are.
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November 21st, 2012 at 6:49 am
good to finally see someone write something other than the usual “AVB out” shit that some so-called “writers” are churning out of their arses. OK, 5 defeats in our last 6 is unnacceptable, but with 3 of them being the scum, the russians and the arabs – its not too bad. I agree we shouldn’t be losing to Wigan and Norwich – but some of you need to get out of harrys arse already. hes gone and hes not coming back. And dont forget he lost to both of those teams last season as well.
Also our fans need to accept the fact that we are not and have not ever been a club worthy of top 4 premier league status. We are an outsider/underdog. When we did finish fourth, it was due mostly to hard work and determination to steal it from the champions. Even finishing fourth last season we only just about scraped it on the final day, and only due to the poor performances of chelsea earlier in the season under – ironically enough – AVB. But give the guy a chance. None of the useless signings we made were his doing, and dont forget Redknapp had two world class midfielders in VDV and ThatUglyTeenageGirl who were both shipped out in the summer..
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November 21st, 2012 at 8:07 am
i just dont get all the harry haters out there.Best manager for yrs.Levy gave him no money ,he pulled us out the shite ,champions lge football,nice attractive football,evrybodys happy ,then bosh.Media got on his case about england job,then it all goes wrong.Problem was he was more popular than levy!
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ausspur Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 8:37 am
agree with sniffer…can’t understand this club (although i have followed spurs for many many years, as do my four young sons). the moment we look like we are (at last) finally on the threshold of throwing down the gauntlet after all these years and challenging the top three/playing brilliant exciting football that all the other teams (and critics)even acknowledge and which we all as spurs fans crave for, we get shot of our manager. what other club would do this? crazy to me…i hate the goons, but they must be loving this. levy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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November 21st, 2012 at 8:58 am
I don’t think Levy’s that interested in popularity.
The problem was our nosedive from 3rd once the England job became ‘up for grabs’ and Redschnapp’s subsequent unrealistic contract demands, having presided over said ‘nosedive’ and in doing so cost us CL football.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a Harry hater by any means, but having been backed (by the club/Levy) through his trial with HMRC and in the knowledge he had overseen us squander CL football (and all its potential consequences re. player attraction/retention) it was a tad foolish to then expect Levy to resurrect his ‘pre-England job speculation’ contract terms and offer him a further three years.
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 9:22 am
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November 21st, 2012 at 9:20 am
I should think AvB is having a sly chuckle now that Di Matteo has gone !
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david Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 9:25 am
Always going to end in tears for RDM, how do you top winning the CL ?
In hindsight, should have quit after winning CL and gone out in a blaze of glory but takes a strong and possibly stupid man to walk out of a top job.
Not surprised he got the sack but am shocked it has happened so soon.
Guardiola, Benitez and Redknapp being linked with the job.
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 9:32 am
Nothing surprises in football.
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Tommy_Puddle Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 9:37 am
Please be Harry. They’re a match made in heaven. He’ll age that side. Imagine him telling their players to run around a bit!
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ELELEL Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 11:34 am
Would love it, but can’t see it at all. Redknapp’s PR machine ramped up its campaign to sack Hughes yesterday leaking stories about him managing Ukraine.
November 21st, 2012 at 9:41 am
So because AVB was a failure at Chelsea where he was asked to work to a certain criteria makes him a failure!! Shall we forget about the good work he did at Porto albeit in a weaker league but always harp on about Chelsea. Didnt Porto also win the Europa league. I suppose if we are rewarding failure then Di Matteo wouldnt have a job at Chelsea right now. Let me see..Didnt he mastermind their CL victory against all the odds. Jeez.!!!AVB has a weaker squad than that that blew a 13pt lead last season..We scored something like 7 goals and 25 against in all competions against the top4 last season. Shows it was a good squad but ultimately came up short against the big boys..The team lacks balls and prescense and is easily bullied. It lacks the flair required at the top level,lacks physicality and am sure AVB has seen all this..We need a TEAM not a group of individuals..GIVE THE GUY A F*UCKING CHANCE TO BUILD AND RECTIFY THE MISTAKES OF OLD!!!!!!
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November 21st, 2012 at 10:20 am
The team lacks balls and prescense and is easily bullied. It lacks the flair required at the top level,lacks physicality and am sure AVB has seen all this..We need a TEAM not a group of individuals..GIVE THE GUY A F*UCKING CHANCE TO BUILD AND RECTIFY THE MISTAKES OF OLD!!!!!!
Nailed mate! bang on feller.
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November 21st, 2012 at 10:26 am
prescense ….love it
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November 21st, 2012 at 10:46 am
AVB – BRAVE & SMART OR ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS Hear The Boy Hotspur’s verdict -the latest Hotspur’s Half Hour on iTunes now
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 1:26 pm
You’ve got panache.
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spurious Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
He’s been sitting on that pan far too long.
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Ahh……..Panache. What a fragrance!
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Mitchell Thomas Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Preferred ‘Tramp’ meself
November 21st, 2012 at 11:20 am
RDM gawn. What a pointless appointment that was.
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Mitchell Thomas Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 11:35 am
Why on earth Abramovich doesn’t do a ‘Noades’ and manage Chelsea himself i don’t know. Cut out the middle man Roman and do the job yourself.
Another reason why you can shove your billionaire benefactors where the sun don’t shine.
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November 21st, 2012 at 11:54 am
Having watched Juve whip the Chavs who played us off the park a couple of weeks back, I just can`t wait to see Spurs qualify for CL.
Willian – there we go again, kiss goodbye to that one.
Hilarious to hear the `two deflected goals` spin being put on Juve`s win last night, ffs!
Now see, the EL will suddenly become prestigious once the Chavs and Citeh are officially in it.
People, chavs have sacked RDM, scum fans are moaning about Wenger, Mancini will more than likely not see the season out – do we really want to be part of all that?
We cannot pass reasonable judgement on AVB until this wretched injury list shortens a bit.
HR had to go, AVB was the best available to US because of the standard we were at. Proof of the pudding, had HR built us into a real force, bigger names would have been stamping over each other to be our boss.
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4 Ever Hopeful Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Yes HR had to go I agree but AVB was the best available? Really? I refuse to believe that a guy in his early thirties whose only previous attempt at running a PL side ended in failure and only has a season the Portuguese League to put on his CV was the best available.
If he was then its because Levy’s silly tactics in transfer windows put off other more qualified candidates.
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moe Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 2:23 pm
My point is we only had the `second pot` to choose from due to our standing in the game and that`s what one or two fans on here need to get their heads around.
Consider, though, that a year previous the chavs snouted the trough and could have had anyone they wanted and chose AVB.
Our current standard is EL. We should take it seriously. Fans moan that this competition leaves the players tired. Do those fans think that if we qualify for CL the players are sprinkled with magic anti fatigue fairy dust?…………..erm that was retorical, stop pondering it.
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November 21st, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Chelsea is pretty much a ‘point and steer’ job. The fact that di Matteo couldn’t even do that demonstrates just how clueless he was.
I’m hoping they give the gig to Guardiola and we discover that his success at Barcelona was entirely down to the set up there.
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moe Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Tottenham was a `point and steer` job at the start of last season. One injury and the handbrake was yanked on, steering wheel pulled violently from side to side and the whole thing span horribly out of control leaving everyone feeling dizzy and sick.
As for RDM, fell into the same trap as AVB attempting to get the chavs playing football rather than diluted rugby.
There`s suggestion that Drogba may be returning on loan – so Abramovich will bring in a new boss and tell him what the team sheet and tactics will be, just as when RDM took over. Hit the reset button again.
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
What happens there? If you aren’t top of the League, winning the Champions League every year and not letting any goals in at all you are shown the door? Good grief, the term megalomaniac is a term not often used in a football context, but Abramovich, (better be careful what I say here), he’s on a different level altogether. Benitez has just been the subject of conjecture on The One O’clock News as a replacement. Words fail me.
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Aristotle Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Who would want the job? Posioned chalice-
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
I can see Mr Redknapp’s eyes lighting up at the prospect. A fat juicy contract followed up by an even fatter compensation payment six months later.
Luvvly jubbly.
melcyid Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
arry to cheatski,let the spiv deal with the russian mafia.
matteo to QPR
sparky to his magic piano
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Aristotle Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Not a bad bet, Redchops going there however they would never understand him down the Kings Road.
ELELEL Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Agree, but it’s a no-brainer for someone like Benitez – come in on a short-term deal, end of season type thing. Pocket a load of cash and if it goes tits up blame the guy before you.
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Mitchell Thomas Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 2:08 pm
I’m serious – Abramovich should man up and just come out and say that he’s the manager. Buy players, sell players, appear at the training ground for ‘gee ups’ and choos your coaching staff.
Sorry but isn’t that the job description for a Manager?
At the moment he’s got all the trappings but none of the accountability (or press conferences)
He’s spent more time on the training ground in the last year than Redshnapps did!
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November 21st, 2012 at 1:56 pm
My bets:
*Benitez to CFC
*Pep to City in the summer
*QPR to keep Hughes and achieve record breaking fail
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Mitchell Thomas Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Mourinho to City in the Summer methinks.
I’m no ITK however. In fact anything i propound about football is fiction and based on gut feel.
Ah….I see….
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November 21st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Apparently Chelsea have paid more in compensation to managers since 2004 than Everton’s net spend for the whole of the Premier League era.
Classless twats.
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Mitchell Thomas Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Twas ever thus with them though wasn’t it…classless, grasping, disaffected yobboes.
See: Ken Bates, John Terry, John Bumstead, Jason Cundy etc. etc.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Pretty stunning statistic. Although we are probably quite far up that chart with our manager merry-go-round ourselves.
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November 21st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Sparky to Blue Racists
Trout Chops to QPHahahahaha
Pep to Scum
Whinger up to Scum Board
Di Mattesons to MurdochSkySportsNews CL panel
Ian Dowie to Job Centre
(i’ve seen it in the tea leaves)
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November 21st, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I have been converted overnight into Redkrapp`s biggest supporter. I hope he gets the chav job. I`m pointing all my positive energy into the prospect.
`EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDEN – Run around a bit. Waan – kick the f***in ball. Frank I`ve booked you in wiv Dr Atkins. Jaayte – don`t call him that – he`s mixed race, not black….`
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East Stand Reply:
November 22nd, 2012 at 1:27 am
‘Redkrapp’ got us highest ever in the Premier League than we have ever been, twice, very ‘krap’ that is. I like AVB too before you start all that nonsense…
“Arry’s a Barra Boy innit… got no clue!!”
“AVB got lots of charts and a notebook innit…got no clue!!”
Put them in their little media created pigeon holes, that’s brilliant i never thought of that one! Anyone got anything else to say about either manager without reverting to the same old boring bow-lax?
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November 21st, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Just a thought…
Abramovitch moves before Citeh.
The prize is Guardiola.
Mancini will be gone if Guardiola wants the Citeh job and holds off from the Chelscum job.
According to the BBC Chelsea will appoint a temporary manager…
HR?
Aren’t they all temporary?
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Dublin Yid Reply:
November 21st, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Guardiola will crash. He will be expected to deliver a team like Barca which is a distinct exception to any other team in the world.
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November 21st, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Well worth a read on ‘Manager worth’:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomchiversscience/100190878/it-makes-almost-literally-no-difference-who-replaces-roberto-di-matteo-as-chelseas-manager/
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November 21st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
AVB the tactician !!! A trait that we were craving for in a manager !!! I watched him during ” That Game ” and he was screaming and pointing at players continuously. When I’m working I hate it when I’m talking to someone on the phone and this twat is making hand gestures and telling me what to say in a hushed voice with distorted face movements. Hear me out…I can only imagine that it must feel the same for the players. Players will feel anxious and uncomfortable when on the ball waiting for the scream to come. These are professional footballers who are not permitted to express themselves to their utmost strengths. A good team needs freedom to express themselves hense getting the most from them. My point is, defenders know how to defend midfielders know their place etc. I love tactics but leave the manual in the car sometimes.
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November 21st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
I wonder how long it will be before people start demanding we replace AVB with RDM! losing van der vaart (who is in my top 5 spurs players ever) and luka modric has cost us, Ledley too, it is simple, you need to spend 70m quid to replace that lot, anyone deny that? the best thing for the club is to construct a model of longevity as harry suggests, whether or not AVB is the man or not is an open question but the club is behind him it seems, there are some wonderful prospects in our youth ranks. Jesus, Pep Guardiola, the man credited with a significant role in La Masia had loads of time to mold those players who went on to become one of football’s greatest team, we do not have the setups in the UK that allow this though the new youth league formats will over time change this. This contant demand for instant brilliance, it is demented, if hear any booing in the next couple of matches, it will cause me pain in my soul!
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November 22nd, 2012 at 12:00 am
All of this is true, AVB has his own methods as did Arry but constant micro-anaylasis of a managers’ every move is missing the point. We have to stick with AVB and let him do things his way.
As i have said before i liked Harry and thought he should have hung about another few seasons and AVB has grown on me a lot too, i have seen enough so far to suggest that he could be a good choice long term. If AVB really wants to win over a section of the support, stop playing frightened rigid football at home and go for it a bit more and that will keep the doubters quieter for a start. He must show he understands our traditions in the way we play, maybe the penny’s dropping now. Get some more quality in Jan and next summer and lets see how he does.
However, some people seem to think any criticism of AVB is automatically ‘pro-Arry’, why? On what basis? Makes no sense, i think both of them have different methods but are both good managers. Can people please stop playing AVB off Harry and vice versa, like the press seem to do? It’s short sighted and pathetic.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 1:58 am
Avb will be up the road by christmas. him and his back room staff are clueless.We need to get a proper manager in like david moyes invest in a couple of class players and get moving in the right direction again.
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November 22nd, 2012 at 8:48 am
I hate to disappoint you but i think the plan is longer term than that. AVB is also prepared to work with a DOF who i’m sure will be put in place before long. The whole structure of the coaching and development of players, signing players is being overhauled. They won’t bring in someone like Moyes as he is more like Harry, a man manager for the present. Levy wants a ‘first team coach’ who will stick in line and not question board financial policy and work with a DOF.
It’s what he tried to do with Ramos but sold Berbatov and Keane and replaced them with Pav and Bent and it all went boobs up from there. Harry was brought in to save a sinking ship but ended up doing far better than Levy probably ever thought.
The board wants that system in place as it it’s an economic strategy and allows for forward planning, how can you plan spending when a manager suddenly demands that you sign a 20m player on 100k a week or he’s off? Not saying HR would have done that but even with smaller deals, the board want full control over all of it.
AVB will only go if we are hopelessly bottom half, otherwise he’ll stay, top 4 or not. The club will defend keeping him by saying there is a long term project and that AVB is key to that to justify not sacking him. They might be right long term but only time will tell, it might all get us nowhere long term but at least we’ll have a new stadium… Which is essential, like it or not and oring as it may sound.
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