Posted on Friday, 16th November 2012 by Harry Hotspur
Good evening.
I’ve been accused of being a Villas-Boas apologist! I guess I can ask for no fairer trial than to ask that any blogs I made demanding Arry’s head after 10 or 11 or 12 games be taken into consideration.
After a day reading and listening to many a Gooner thoughts about Aunty Wenger on tomorrow’s game after years of them achieving Champions League participation I think I’m even less in tune with so many of our two bob fans who want the boss gone if we don’t win tomorrow.
Tomorrow won’t be dull. That’s for sure. I predict a 5-5 all draw.
Provisional Gooner squad: Szczesny, Sagna, Vermaelen, Mertesacker, Santos, Wilshere, Cazorla, Arteta, Coquelin, Podolski, Walcott, Giroud, Mannone, Djourou, Jenkinson, Chamakh, Arshavin, Koscielny, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ramsey.
Provisional lovely boys squad: Friedel, Lloris, Gomes, Cudicini, Walker, Naughton, Gallas, Caulker, Dawson, Vertonghen, Lennon, Sigurdsson, Townsend, Falque, Carroll, Mason, Livermore, Sandro, Huddlestone, Bale, Dempsey, Adebayor, Defoe.
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November 16th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Fuck know’s what we’re in for tomorrow, praying for the win, can handle losing, just not when we don’t turn up due to lack of understanding of tactics, formation etc.
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November 16th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
I prefer threesome’s
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Hartley Reply:
November 16th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Arse is in for a spanking tomorrow, AVB WILL prevail…..
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Mitchell Thomas Reply:
November 16th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Cheaper by the pound for sure. More bang for.your buck
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November 16th, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Do you speak and understand English you 5 card trick???? Doesn’t matter how many games he has had he should go now and take mackerels like you with him!!! We hate this boring negative football and even if we win tomorrow he’s shit and your a mackerel!!
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Hartley Reply:
November 16th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
In cod we trust….
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Mikey Reply:
November 16th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Something fishy is going on here.. @ Harry Hater, if your lucky enough to get to the emptycrates tomorrow try supporting the team.
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Stupot Reply:
November 16th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Stop carping on, we’ll batter them…
calebray Reply:
November 16th, 2012 at 11:03 pm
that put him in his plaice
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melcyid Reply:
November 16th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
sounds like a load of pollocks to me.
Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:05 am
The comments here are packed in like sardines.
Tel Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 8:27 am
Are you for reel?
hoofing Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 7:33 am
Isnt Salmon Rishdie a goon?
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the man from room five Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 9:10 am
no he’s a shellfish moron
Habib Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 10:08 am
What a Basstard
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lolwut Reply:
November 16th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
You can always tell a knee-jerk reactionary moron on the internet when they over use exclamation marks.(!!!!!)
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half_baked_spuds Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
im afraid i cant comment on the boring football cos i fell asleep watching it.
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November 16th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
My wife is watching I’m a nonentity get me… whatever.If we lose tomorrow I’m going into a tailspin of terminal decline. My drink problem will escalate and I’ll wind up in a gutter somewhere with the ghost of Oliver reed.
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Mikey Reply:
November 16th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
If we win?
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 16th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Probably still in the gutter drunk…
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Garth Crooks is a bad man ruffneck ting Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:05 am
Avb out.
Steveo1987 Reply:
November 16th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Did somebody call…?
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Mitchell Thomas Reply:
November 16th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
BC i *heart* you in manly way. Night nurse and brandy for me please
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November 16th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
A good gutsie performance is what the eyeballer wants – if it’s as abject as the second half last Sunday then avb will have questions to answer
5-3-2 formation for the eyeballer as explained on previous thread
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Habib Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 10:09 am
I want a 3-6-1
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half_baked_spuds Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
555 might just see us taking the 3 points,
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November 16th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Wenger is moaning about the Arse injury situation. Yeah, half our 1st team have been out injured at one time or another. Parker aint even started this season.
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November 16th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
I just dont want to see Dempsey, the guys started or played in every game this year…..he hasnt had 1 good one.
He cant be picking him on form, I dont get the selection.
Carroll, Sig, Defoe or Falque to replace Dempsey and I will be happy lose or win, just want to see an entertaining performance, sick of us sitting back all game.
It worked once against United and even then we deserved to lose
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Mitchell Thomas Reply:
November 16th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
Dempsey can wipe my dogs arse. Silly tag nut
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November 16th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Nice piece on the Interlopers
http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/sbYsbnK2RWBT5iLRAfqL-dQ/view.m?id=15&gid=football/blog/2012/nov/16/tottenham-arsenal-battling-mediocrity-derby&cat=sport-blog
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November 16th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
No Brad, Gallas, Dempsey please, and play Ade and Defoe: chase their woeful defence
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November 16th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
I still miss Dawson……
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:08 am
Do you still miss him now?
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:15 am
How about now?
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Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:58 am
Learn to punch straight!
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November 16th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Both teams injured and out of form, 6-6 all draw
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November 16th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Only allowing itune users to acces your podcast was a dickmove on your part Harry.
Fuck you
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StrappingYoungLady Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:02 am
If you are going to write nasty things and try and hide behind a pseudonym you have to change the email address as well.
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snarklife Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 11:41 am
Anyone can download via iTunes but you should be able to use any podcatcher instead (RSS lives at http://hotspurshalfhour.libsyn.com/rss). Or go straight to the source at http://hotspurshalfhour.libsyn.com
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November 16th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Ian wright today on the radio said he will be shitting it (not exact words) if we start with jd and ade.
Don’t think avb will as I’m starting to think he is a cautious cat.
Absolutely anything can happen and probably will.
Will be hiding behind the sofa.
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StrappingYoungLad Reply:
November 16th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Yeah but Ian Wright knows fuck all about football and regularly has Defoe’s nuts in and around his mouth and facial area. I wouldn’t listen to or paraphrase that idiot.
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Mitchell Thomas Reply:
November 16th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Not sure gem o’ midget is fit for 90 mins. Hammys
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Mitchell Thomas Reply:
November 16th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Our dog has the most explosive diarroeah tonight. Is this a good sign or ominous portent of doom?
Fucking hell there’s even doggie ready brek lining the stairs.
If we win tomorrow i’ll be feeding the hungry fucker chilli peanuts by the bucket load in future.
H – get the dog nappies out of your study its going to be a long and stinky night
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kojac Reply:
November 16th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
the dog sounds nervous
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Mabelode The Faceless Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:04 am
Be very careful. If Ant and Dec appear on the tv at the same time my Staffordshire Bull looks very nervous indeed and my Border goes out for a wee. I won’t risk a John Terry post match interview, cleaning the carpet is a tough job.
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Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:01 am
Do you like dog’s arses??
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November 16th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
In AVB we trust, in Harry we rust. 4-5 Spurs win. COYFS.
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November 16th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
I would love to see Carroll get the start…..
Need someone in central who can unlock the door and so far he appears the only option…
Maybe we can get lightning to strike twice (See D Rose on his first Prem start)…
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November 16th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
0-0 it is then,need adebayor to play really,i just don’t have any faith in our midfield at the moment
so i need itunes now to listen,i guess everybody has itunes but not me,another thing on the old PC,prefer it on the blog myself
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onedavemackay Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:41 am
I’ll see what I can do
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onedavemackay Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:45 am
Try this :
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onedavemackay Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:46 am
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onedavemackay Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:46 am
Hmmm That didn’t work ! Might have to wake up Sir Harold
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spurious Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:12 am
Koj
Harry posted this on an earlier blog
http://hotspurshalfhour.libsyn.com/rss
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 10:14 am
yes but what the hell is it,it’s just a load of text for me,am i supposed to do something
thanks for the effort odm
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spurious Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Try downloading or streaming the MP3 media file for the latest podcast – show 11?
snarklife Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 11:42 am
You can download at http://hotspurshalfhour.libsyn.com
November 16th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
Come on Tottenham.
Give us a weekend of that wonderful glory you specialize in..
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:04 am
Bill Nick wouldnt even entertain anyone wearing any thing red in and around the offices and tea rooms etc.
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:06 am
Arsenal-Spurs-stars-legends-recall-favourite-derby
GERRY FRANCIS
Tottenham legend 1994-97 (146 games)
IT has to be the stunning 1-0 win at home on January 2, 1995. It was always going to be special because it was my first as manager which was the most successful reign, over the first 15 games, of any Spurs manager of the previous 5 years. We were playing like Brazil circa 1970 at the time, so we went into it with a certain swagger and confidence that I instilled in all my sides.
My revolutionary management tactics ensured that Gica Popescu scored the only goal and White Hart Lane erupted singing my name in perfect unison. To make it more special, that was the last time Tottenham finished the season as London’s top club.
There are unconfirmed rumours that a stand at the new White Hart Lane is to be named after me.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2233668/Arsenal-Spurs-stars-kits-125-years-ago-legends-recall-favourite-derby-moments.html#ixzz2CQrTHreo
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
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Mitchell Thomas Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Haha classic bit of ‘photo shopping’ there. Old werewolf head and his love affair with Ruel Fox. Strike a light.
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JP Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 10:41 am
Never could look into the camera, has attempted a tv career on SSN but perhaps felt his star transcended the televisual medium. It has been said that Guardiola cited Francis as his greatest mangerial influence likewise Messi -Chris Armstrong.
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:46 am
Harry you are maturing!!!
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:45 am
Is it the end of the month yet….need a shake up
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:03 am
Harry….Mature???? God I hope not or I’ll have to move over to DML!!!!
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:25 am
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November 17th, 2012 at 5:56 am
If we lose tomorrow, John McAfee has offered AVB somewhere to hide out.
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November 17th, 2012 at 8:29 am
I’m in Cyprus with no access to game as out and about. Please can you post full analysis asap HH?
Want to see Ade and Gem up front. Oh to have Parker back too snapping at Wilshire’s heals, still at least we have Sandro.
Come on you lilly whites, makes us all proud.
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November 17th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Dempsey out…. Negative football out.
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November 17th, 2012 at 8:37 am
I predict a riot. Today is another in a string of AVB maker breaker matches. If we win, he will win 10 games of grace, if we lose, our moron contingent will excel in their expertise.
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November 17th, 2012 at 8:44 am
Don’t use itunes either. Put it back how it was.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 10:16 am
http://hotspurshalfhour.libsyn.com/rss
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snarklife Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Or just http://hotspurshalfhour.libsyn.com if you want to download directly rather than subscribing via any pod catcher.
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November 17th, 2012 at 9:15 am
Hopefully Levy will make a call downstairs and ask why his 10 million quid investment is not between the posts. EPL Experience or no experience his distribution is far superior and does not give possession away. Thats the trick against the goons possession play and 2 snipers up front.
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November 17th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Do we need to say any more then 5-2? Also hope that monkey looking bale doesn’t cheat again. When will spurs fans accept there team will never finish above the mighty arsenal
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Habib Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 10:12 am
I’m with you. Stupid spurs supporters. Don’t they know that that Arsenal’s 40% extra wage bill means they should finish atleast 4 positions above us.
Come on you gunners! The whole is more then the sum of its parts and your average players together can have one good game!
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 10:38 am
yeah but van pispot plays for utd now
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November 17th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Apologies to those who don’t use iTunes. In future there will be a button on the blog you can press to play.
I am just recovering from two months of hourly phone calls from ODM demanding to know why we weren’t on iTunes, so from next week we can all bask in the peace and joy that is multi platform easy listening.
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 10:24 am
i think most people have itunes i guess some of us are just simple and strange,that link is all text for me am i supposed to link it or do something,i feel like a caveman but i pretty good with the old PC
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spurious Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 10:46 am
See my reply to your 10.14 post above.
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 11:05 am
but there is nothing to stream or download,just a wall of text code from that link,i googled lybsyn to see what it is though,i never really knew what an rss feed is and in the info on lybsyn they said they created this because 90% of the world don’t know what an rss feed is,lol
snarklife Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Just lose the /rss bit and go to http://hotspurshalfhour.libsyn.com
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 11:53 am
eureka!
Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 10:54 am
Cut him loose Hotspur. He’s hold you back.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
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November 17th, 2012 at 10:21 am
i like our old kit form the article up above,what is that symbol on our shirt,it looks like an old crusader cross,that should be our third kit shouldn’t it or maybe we did use it for 125,i can’t remember that big symbol though
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 10:49 am
I’m sure Herbert would love that!
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 11:13 am
started by a grammar school boys from a bible class at All hallows church,our history seems to have been buried
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 11:22 am
I’m sure Herbert would love that too!
half_baked_spuds Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
yeah crusader cross is significant – most of them got put to the sword.
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November 17th, 2012 at 11:25 am
….
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November 17th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Whats happening?
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November 17th, 2012 at 11:37 am
ive typed the same thing out 5 times and nada…
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 11:40 am
welcome to the cheese
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November 17th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Two thinkers I think….
http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/5908759/2/stock-photo-5908759-the-thinker-statue.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-leiXd0bNrZ0/T1R-Xrt3VeI/AAAAAAAAAXk/2GwEQaweND0/s1600/avb-sacked.jpg
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November 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Help, am i stiil asleep? i dont understand…
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November 17th, 2012 at 11:54 am
5-5 seems sensible
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November 17th, 2012 at 11:54 am
I’m sat under a Spurs Calendar. I get one every year from some very nice people.
November is Rafa van der Vaart.
And no doubt on the box will be Dempsey.
Woe, woe and thrice woe.
I’ll be sitting down to start with…only standing if we get to be in the lead.
I sing Spurs songs to myself in my TV room. My wife thinks I’m stupid.
She doesn’t know just how much this game means.
I hope AVB and his merry band do.
BIOYWC and booo Wenger just for me.
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Jimbo THFC Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
I’m sending my wife off to lunch with her mates just so I can sit at home and swear freely at the tv.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Will you be watching the game?
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Bruxie Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
No bloody Dempsey.
Yeeeeees.
November 17th, 2012 at 11:56 am
Your wife is wrong.
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November 17th, 2012 at 11:56 am
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1116/soc_g_wenger1_sy_576.jpg
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
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November 17th, 2012 at 11:56 am
im victim of some bizarre selective censorship
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November 17th, 2012 at 11:56 am
re. the 5-5 then i’d say you’ve been watching another team cos we dont look like like scoring 5 against the blind school let alone the arse.
if avb’s playing just ade up front then he’ll need around 500 chances to get 5! for goodness sake replace dumpsey with ade and play ade behind defoe. differance last season was we created masses of chances most games which made ade look a hotshot, this season chances are as rare as rocking horse shit so we need a finisher. ade + defoe could be special. cant avb see that?
nobody should call for avb’s sacking if we lose today like i think we will, but if things dont improve soon, and i dont mean just results but the booooring, negative football we’ve been playing even against lowly sides (park the big white bus anyone?) then avb is history for sure, its just when. lets hope levy buys him the players he needs in the next transfer window (preferably ones who understand his tactics) and we get our signficant injured players back soon.
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77spur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 11:58 am
4 OG’S
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November 17th, 2012 at 11:58 am
an ET race must heal Dembele on the spot with their EYES GODDAMMIT
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Did you say that your posts weren’t getting through? Shame.
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77spur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
ooo, you naughty little monkey.
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77spur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Tranditional physio has failed us….
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77spur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Whats TRANDITIONAL? Look, i havent had much sleep the last few days, and im very anxious and confused…derby in half hour……MEDIC..
November 17th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Playing Ade behind Defoe is the only sensible plan
Playing one up,forget it Im going back to bed
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philmccrackin Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Ade Defoe
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Well, I didn’t see him picking this starting line up to be honest.
I’m happy with it to be honest.
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Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
For anyone who hasn’t seen it yet……….
Lloris, Walker, Gallas, Vertonghen, Naughton, Lennon, Sandro, Huddlestone, Bale, Adebayor, Defoe.
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
No complaints from me. Given the available personnel that’s about as strong as it gets. If they’re up for it, we’ll win.
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
good we get to see kyle 2 at rb and adebayor is playing
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philmccrackin Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
90 minutes of honest endeavour from our boys might see at least a draw COYS.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
That’s what I like about you Phil. You’re double honest. To be honest.
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Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Ha yeah I was just laughing about that to myself when I read it back to be honest!!
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Why the fuck are we wearing that black kit against arsenal…
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Ade and Defoe both playing
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
i LOVE THE LINE UP
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
It’s a great selection.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Amen to that Ron and so be it. The only weakness is Tugboat. It may prove to be a weakness to far. Still it’s a good strong side. COYS let’s ‘ave the punk *ss b**** *ss GOON mother f******!
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Dick head Koscielny wil surely pull down Bale in the area
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
IN AVB DO WE TRUST: STUFF EVERYONE ELSE!
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Hope we play billy just for the first half
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Watching on the comfort of my Commode.
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Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Is Douche playing?
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
I think this is the big one for AVB
at least for now
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Koscielny is going to pull Bale down I know it
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Ade is best at providing cool and creativity.
I hope this works big tme and we can start playing every game with two strikers
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Lloris in goal.Couldnt be better
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
I know a lot of people have been crying out for it, but I don’t really think that the Emirates is the natural home for a 4-4-2 away side. The last team we sent out there like that came away without their pants. But having said that, Dumpsey and Shitterson have looked so poor it might just be a case of f*** the system, just get some half decent footballers on the pitch, whoever they are.
Slender Lloris in goal is an interesting one too. At least Ronnie will be happy.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Thought you’d been barred.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Everyone deserves a second chance. I promised to reign in the sweary stuff (and the Saturnism).
Anyway, it’s been democratically proven that I ‘bring balance’.
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Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
In Lloris I trust.
I do hope he has a good game but I believe he will help us raise the level of what we do in general
I can see Dempsey doing something late BTW when the expectations are low
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
My expectations are pretty low already!
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Stop Cazorla and they are done
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
YIDS!
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I like the strip we have.very Uruguay.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Tee hee. U R Gay,
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
EA f’n dressing us, grey shit…. Judas next to Henry…. Now I’m ready!!!!
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Sandro the Lionheart!
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Kill them Sandro
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
we are paying those fuckers too much respect
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Bale has to find space
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Defoe and Ade!
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
you fucking beauty
too easy. lets have another
coys
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Jimbo THFC Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Get in.
We can’t sit back for 80 mins.
Go get another one.
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
f*ck yeah,can they disallow it,go big man
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Koscielny will give us a penalty.The bloke is the putz of putzes
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Wilshere getting a red today. Booyah!
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Its fucking Christmas!
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November 17th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
nearly two – come on you shower of bastards
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
They look ropey as. Need to be punished further before they wake up.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
We look strong.Tough.Mentally capable.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
eh i read the team wrong then,both kyles out there and vert in the back,bit late to the party
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Ade is the new Modric
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
We have been impressive
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
The arsenal fell down 5 minutes after Gallas hit him
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
fucksake
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
One up front then
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Oh frack it.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
i hope we aren’t going to be poofs and sit back and take it,
oh well thats that then,stupid big fat f*cking balls,no brains
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Unbelievable
Yellow card not red riuned trhe fucking game
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Come off it. If that was Wilshire on Bale you’d be screaming for a red.
It was a stupid, stupid challenge.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
thats a shocker
yellow yes. red no
spurs to win 1-0 anybody?
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Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Studs showing is an instant red, those the rules.
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Alspur Reply:
November 18th, 2012 at 12:59 am
Err, those are not “the rules”, those are your interpretation of the rules.
If those are “the rules”, please show me them?
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Need to wind up Wilshire, even it up
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
strikerless for the next few games now too,let alone this f*cking game
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Total shithouse.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
What on earth was Ade thinking???
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Feet up yes but stupid to give a red
Ref couldnt handle the argey bargey afterwards and gave a red
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
defoe – you need to do some serious miles today brother.
lets do these slags
coys
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
LLL your boys not doing so bad today
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Bale will get one
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Really a fuck up that red
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Our cruel year continues. When does the good karma kick in for us?
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Can’t you sacrifice something for us?
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
I’m starting to question my faith a bit to be honest.
Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
The ref had no choice Ron, it was a dickheads tackle, there was no need for his foot to be that high, right near the bloody half way line too.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
He did have a choice. The contact was minimal even if the foot was high. Could have easily given a yellow and a stern talking to. He had an option – he didn’t have to ruin the game. Agree that Adebayor was a dickhead though.
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Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
I’m pissed off too but it was a red all day long. Ade, what a cock.
This could be embarrassing come full time.
Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Exactly, you are not allowed to go in studs showing, he had both feet off the floor so a easy decision for the ref.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
FUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JUST DON’T ANYONE FUCKING START SAYING THIS WAS AVB’S FAULT…
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notsohotspurs Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Only one persons fault double agent Adebayor
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Alspur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Yup, except he scored
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Dammit. Lloris too short
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
may aswell take thud off,he can’t cover any ground for this long,the goons are always so lucky.we’re gonna get well beat
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Damage limitation now.
Losing Ade reduces our ability to defend crosses as well.
This will probably get very ugly and it is a shame because before the red card we looked well up for it and dangerous going forward.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Ade was playing at his very best and then fucks it up.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
we can come back.Bale has to do something and make them pay
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
get baler diving anything to level up in this stinkhole
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:13 pm
If we cannot get the ball in CM, Bale, Lennon And Defoe become passengers.
The longer it goes on the more knackered our players become and the worse things will get.
Time to park the bus.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
I sincerely hope that Wilshire gets sent off, the horrible little shit. Or gets hurt, either would do.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
pointless tackle,this day and age,stupid,he’d already done the damage,must be thick
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
We can still go for it
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
I love the way Naughton ids playing…COOL!
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
we’ll be 9 men by the end of this game,hopefully we can nick a set play and get a 2-2
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
I love Lloris put him in t5he forward line
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Cazorla is their best player
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
lets get dumpsey on for thud so we can all moan and groan at him then he might score
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
How about a yellow for Sagna?????????????????????
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Without Caulker and Ade we have no height to defend crosses.
Defoe cannot hold the ball up to keep the pressure off and Hudd will become less mobile with every passing minute.
Just need to keep the scoreline respectable.
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Alspur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Hudd and Sandro are tall enough – we have a tall team: even Bale is tall – no excuses, there, I’m afraid…
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david Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Hudd can’t jump, if you think we have enough height how come they have scored from one cross already and Lloris has made 2 excellent saves from headers from crosses
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Alspur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
How exactly would having Adebayor on the pitch have prevented any of those?
We have plenty of height – I’m just saying we can’t use that as an excuse, that’s all…
david Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Ade would have been marking the goalscorer, him and Caulker are 6′ 4″ Verts and Gallas a lot shorter.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I’ve watched it 10 times and I still don’t think it’s a sending off…
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/emmanuel-adebayor-spurs-sent-off-v-arsenal/
Not in a derby game, when the crowd is fired up… the ref surely has to take that into account…
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calebray Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
he only sent him off cos hes black. anyone know a good lawyer
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
get hibbert on the phone,we have a case for him
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mystic arnold Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
What about Mark Jacobs he s also a that word we re not allowed to use
kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
not these days,the ear mic would have said,red
if you are sliding in feet high,the refs eyes light up,more screen time
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Alspur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
but the ball was high – he almost got the ball, just caught Cazorla’s foot… yellow for me…
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
doesn’t matter,they send you off for intent these days,ball is irrelevant as strange as that sounds
if you are lunging in feet high,you are thick as f*ck
Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Why tackle like that near the half way line though? Absolutely no need for it.
Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Then you don’t know the rules of the game.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Has anybody else got a really bad feeling now? I really hope I’m wrong but years of getting unfairly fucked by these tossers tells me otherwise.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
great stuff from baler,
i want to see heart now,here is where we see who is tottenahm and not
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
I thought it was a red card but these gooners do spend a lot of time falling over.
Means a 3 game ban as well.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Bale is tired will dive get penalty 1-2
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
ARTITA!
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Come back benny!!!
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
fucking shit
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
man this is grim……….
lets see some heart
coys
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
fucking doris….i hope all you lot wailing for the frog to start are friggin happy now…what load of shite he is!
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Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
You are an idiot
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chiversmetimbers Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
oh really? what the score?
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Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
You are a fucking idiot
Giroud had two men marking him
You are a putz
Hartley Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
It would have been 5 apart from Lloris, Adebayor is a mug, Gallas is too slow and Naughton isn’t doing his job,
chiversmetimbers Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
beaten at the near post…nuff said
ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
He hasn’t done well today. I’m not saying he’s shit, I don’t think he is. But he hasn’t really done anything yet in a Spurs shirt to warrant taking Friedel’s spot if you are objective about it.
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Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Its not that,buying him and putting in that position was wrong.
Does every player have to earn his place after buying him?
November 17th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Webb is a schmuck!
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Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Neil Webb? He retired years ago!
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
just a no contest now,modern footy ruined
they need to have a new yellow/red card system for refs with how thick a player is and the size of a game
we let teh goons off the hook at every possible turn,f*cking sick of it
right now get them all out,levy his mrs f*ck the lot of them
get thud off ffs,he is no use with an 11 in a big game,let alone 10 men
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Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Just watched the replays of the goals and Huddlestone was instrumental in two of their goals. Great passer of the ball but offers virtually nothing going back.
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
he should have gone as soon as we hit 10men,i have often praised thud back in the day and he is a skillfull player but his time has long gone,he offers nothing
a man utd player wouldn’t have let that 2nd or 3rd goal,they would have battled for their life,tahts the kind of mentality we need and thud just hasn’t got it
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
I didn’t have much hope for this game. But why do we always have to suffer such ridiculous luck and indignity?
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mystic arnold Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Its could being a Spurs supporter
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
3-1 and we have not got a clue. Would take the dog for a walk second half, if I had one.
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Yep, just getting ready now.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Hopes and dreams smashed in less than 45 mins.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
the gardening looks good now
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Bad call by Webb
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Jimbo THFC Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Ade’s tackle was unnecessary and late but never a red card. His foot was off the floor but so was the ball and the arsenal players foot. It was a mistimed bad tackle, unfortunately it seems someone has rewritten the rules and you’re not allowed to do that anymore.
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
well yes football is for pansies and the refs are poofs but that tackle was still made by someone who is thick as F*ck,red card all day long in modern football
you get sent off for intent these days,the ball is irrelevant as i said above
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notsohotspurs Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Jimbo THFC Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
If you sent off every footballer who was thick as f*ck there wouldn’t be many players on the pitch. The only intent I saw was one to win the ball, he missed but I didn’t see any intent to injure.
kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
i don’t think they should get sent off for being thick they should be left on for being thick,they should take an iq test,the thicker you are the more leeway you get depending on the type of game liek a derby for example
intent is impossible to tell if you ask me but thats what the refs say when they account for things i believe,it’s a stupid thing to bring into the game
Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Wrong I’m afraid. He went in with studs showing. That is a straight red, you can not do it. It was a 100% sending off tackle.
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Gary B Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Couldn’t wait to get his red card out and spoil the game for Spurs fans and neutrals (once again), from the ref who let’s players stamp each other in the chest in World Cup matches.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
How many will it be today?
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Step up AVB.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
This team is mentally weak. Even suffering the dismissal, we didn’t need to crumble so badly. It gave them a boost and our players in turn bottled it wholesale.
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notsohotspurs Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
For me thats the most worrying thing. we have seemed fragile even before today. Worse than last year ? We need to show something second half.
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Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Aha someone with some intelligence. Exactly. Why do think we concede so many late goals? If a player is so soft he needs to be protected from boos he will never be a winner. If a player responds with i’ll show em, he a strong minded winner. I’d rather have winners playing than soft fairies.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
I’d settle for a 5-5 right now.
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
I’d settle for a loss if we just showed some f***ing fight.
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77spur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Dont bank on it. Its not avbs fault that webb is on the payrole but it will be that we’ll get embarassed. The attitude of the players has changed for the worse since he came in.
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Alspur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Errr… 2-5, last year, we’ve always been brittle…
77spur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
That was just at the start of the Harry for england campaign that derailed us. Refer you to a fully functioning distractionless Tottenham team 2-0 down the season before and coming back to win 3-2.
November 17th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
This is all down to Adebayor……we were dominating up until that point, and now he’s banned for the next 3…
He’s a f*cking disgrace
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notsohotspurs Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Him and his other gooner mate can do one as far as im concerned
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Hartley Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
We really should have a no goon policy….
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
its the safest way and one i would prefer
kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
and further if a new manager came in and the first thing he said was “no F*cking goons right,got that”
that man can have the longest honeymoon in spurs history
mystic arnold Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Yeh just stick to Hancock s half hour
ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
It was idiotic in the extreme, but he scored the goal and looked like being our most important player, which is the frustrating thing. However, Webb didn’t need to give him a red. Foot high, contact minimal. Crowd hostile. Don’t spoil the game. Be sensible.
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Alspur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
The reaction of the Arsenal players and the mini-scuffle all added to it… f*cking scum…
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Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Studs showing so he had to go, rules is rules, you can’t change them for 1 particular game. The right decision as AVB admits.
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Alspur Reply:
November 18th, 2012 at 1:08 am
Those are not “the rules”!!!! Show me any “rule” that says that…
November 17th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Id settle for 3-1,if we are not carefull we are going to get smashed, not right mentally now.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Livermore on for the 2nd half?
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
HOWARD WEBB. PROTECTOR OF THE PRE-DETERMINED TOP 4. 1-0 up dominating. 1st challenge, he didnt need asking twice did he? red card. prick
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Would he have sent an arse player off for the same challenge. NO.
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Majesquire Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Yes. Well that’s killed off that ‘point’. Marvelous.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Caulker, Kaboul, Parker, Dembele, BAE all out. Now Ade out for three due to red card then for the African cup. Seems like this team has absolutely no luck but bad luck. Hard to win missing half the lineup. Worried though about them dropping to lower half of table without some major moves in January. Total disaster.
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77spur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
its just caught up with us like it was always going to. QPR Home lucky to win. Norwich Home lucky to draw. Man utd Away fucking lucky to win. We’ve been suspect. The injurys are bad but there is somethin WRONG. SABOTAGE my friends.
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Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
A lucky manager is better than a good one, unfortunately we have an unlucky bad one.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
another groundhog day for us it seems and against the worse arsenal team in recent memory
our players are in my view seriously lacking in mental capacity and strength, if avb can’t rally this lot it could be 9-10
we’re in control of game until the stupid cunt gets sent off, after that we’ve defended like amateurs
we’ve not stopped crosses coming in, we don’t mark properly in the box, it’s going to get messy
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Hudd is dreadful but he sent up their goal wonderfully
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
He’s off
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
He’s not? Aw jeez.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
It could have been a toss up for Ade getting a red or yellow and the punch up sealed the red.Webb had to calm it down and fucked the game up
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
We have lost this game, just a question of by how many.
We are a 7 man team with Lennon, Bale and Defoe out of it.
AVB has a chance to come up with something to hopefully avoid us getting beaten by a rugby score.
PARK THE BUS!
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Dempsey for the winner anyone? 4-5 Spurs!!
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Dawson for Gallas?
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Full backs off?!
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david Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
3-5-2.
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david Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
sorry, 3-5-1
November 17th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Bale has to get two…he can do it
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Lloris, Naughton, Huddlestone… The usual blinkered diatribes will no doubt be trotted out following today’s (assumed) defeat, but one man and one man alone deserves the vitriol. And that man isn’t Howard Webb.
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Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Exactly right UncleKev, we were well in the driving seat until Ade went silly.
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Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Or did you mean Wiltshire? Just for being scum!!
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Naughton and Walker off!!
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Tactical genius?
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Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Certainly a brave move, I will give AVB that. Mind you Naughton was getting skinned constantly by Walcott so probably a good move.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
I fucking like it. Brave moves from AVB at last.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Ive got to go…taping it….Im going to pray
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Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Taping it? Where have you got to go Ron, back to the 80′s?!!!
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
Bold substitutions from the manager. Although how D****** comes on ahead of Sigurdsson baffles me.
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Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Well it hardly matters, they are both shit.
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Huddlestones corners are utter pants
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
And yet he’s our best corner taker!
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Lloris?Bale?Vert?Ade
We have capitulated 
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
nice one Dawson…bugger his shoulder up!
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
We’re looking good. If we could just snatch a second, I’d fancy us to get a draw.
Of course if they score next we could be in cricket score territory.
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
nice dreaming unkle,liek it
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Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
oooooohhhhhhhh shhhhiiiiiiiiiiitttttt!!
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November 17th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
at least has done something,the kyles off
here we are ripping into the players like thud,dumper won’t one of them ram back down our throats
if i was an online gambler i’d probably have 5-2
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
One goal closer…
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
scrap my bet,we’ll never score now,you got me believing
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
maybe not,hey bookie waaiit!
UnkleKev Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
November 17th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Why has Gallas swapped shirts? Sorry, my mistake….I forgot he was playing for us….
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
cold light of day, thats a red everytime.
we are the masters of our own undoing
thanks lads
again
fuck me
strong move from the ginger one at half time though.
coys
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
We need to get niggly. Slow game down see if we can get one of theirs sent off.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
All too easy
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
4-1 holyheartofdivinejasus….
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Its going to be a rout
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
4-1 is a rout too far for me already.
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calebray Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
its a trout
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
I dont know where to look
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Comedy defending. Tragi-comedy.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Last Christmas we had a team too be proud of. Now we are a fucking laughing stock. Cheers FA media FIFA your a disgrace, oh and spineless Levy.
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calebray Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
stop with the bullshit. how is this levys fault exactly?
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77spur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Doesnt he hire and fire? Im not convinced, you may have a point mate.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Is that a George Michael song?
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
…and to think, we wre pretty much dicking all over them for the first 18 minutes…
I am seriously depressed…
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
It’s always the way. Lower expectations. Add false hope. Remove. Suicide.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Dempsey not even trying,not a happy spurs man me thinks.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
I think thats how the song goes…
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
6-1 and 9 players on the pitch.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Sandro off soon
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Too many Spurs players ball watching here, show some fucking pride please.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
i’m afraid adebayor is the c*nt today,stupid f*ck
i know he arrived late but we are 18 games played and he hasn’t actually contributed to the season yet,regardless of not being a very happy bunny right at this moment we do seem to be in a very shite place and it feels like it is going to get worse
i need a letter form levy to reassure us stupid fans that he knows it’s going to get better and who we are getting in the january window
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Mr p Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Like
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Go on Baler.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
I love Gareth Bale
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Fabulous from Bale but watch Defoe, he couldn’t have been less interested in making a run.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Damn Bales a beast tho
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Dunno why we dont play him down the middle
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
it would be worth a shout to me
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
They are bottlers too. If we can somehow snatch another, something might happen.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
My 4-5 is on!!!!!!!
Come on you Spurs!!
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Fucking ref, fucking Adebayor, fucking fuck…
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david Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
Don’t hold back mate, say what you really mean.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
this season i have seen enough of gallas,thud and walker they should be replaced in the first team i think
wow baler nearly with a second
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Pass it Bale!!!
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
tap in there. Shit.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
It’s on like fat Pats thong
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
1-1, this half… is that something to be happy about? I need something to cling onto…
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
it’s hard to be happy today,they aren’t even trying it’s a no contest,3 league losses in a row
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:20 pm
4-2 up and their fans are shit. Says it all to me.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Id be more worried if i were a gooner. We were pissing on em before howard earned a crust(playing simple and effective 442 that brought us success) and they still havent put us to bed.
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david Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Amazed we are still in this. As you say, it says a lot about them at the moment.
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david Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
And if Bale had passed to Defoe and made it 4-3, they really would have been bricking it.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Id be more worried if i were a gooner.
Hmm.. Can’t quite share that assessment.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Yeh they have much more to worry about.
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77spur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
LeT me put it different. Id be VERY worried if i were a gooner, wouldnt you?
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
I’m quite wrapped up being worried about Tottenham to be honest.
77spur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
well, yes, that is worrying granted.
November 17th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
The refs are doing their best too win games for them and thir still struggling. Last minute pen vs fulham last week. missed. If we got a point it would be funny to say the least.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
4-2 up, at home, against ten men … and their ‘keeper’s time wasting with ten minutes to go.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Dempsey passing to players in red shirts. Clueless.
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
…and making not one ounce of effort to win it back.
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david Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Twice in 60 seconds he had the ball in good positions and twice he passed straight to a gooner.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Wonder if Adebayor has closed his twiter account yet?
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Deuce Bigalow wants beating
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
not sure we are in this david,
f*ck me dumper doesn’t want to make his life any easier does he,complete bollox from him and i’m varely watching the game
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david Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Not in it now! 5-2.
To be honest, I thought it could be a lot worse at half time.
Shame because when it was 11 v 11 we were the team making the chances.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
AVB keeping par with Redknapp at least.
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
STATUE LLL
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
Tell you what though, Dempsey is fucking atrocious. Bad touches, conceding possession followed up by no attempts whatsoever to retrieve it.
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
he looks like a pub player,someone needs to tell what the f*ck is going on,we could do a better job,at least we’d be huffing & puffing
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
the higher ups better get some well worded letters written,i want the feeling that someone gives a sh*t or heads will roll
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
We’d have wrecked these tango instructors with 11 out there
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Walclot
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
First it was Harry’s fault then injuries and then it was the fans fault now it’s gonna b Ade’s fault bottom line is we’re now mid table thanks to you Harry haters yes he lost us 3rd but remember he was the one that got u there. Argue all you want about Harry’s faults and brag about AVB all you want we’re now mid table , hope your pleased Mr hotspur and your followers
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
no that one was adebayors fault,plain and simple
sure we could and should have been better with 10men but being spurs that wasn’t going to happen
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77spur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
as ive said ahrry pissed me off from time to time but anyone who thought this appointment was a good idea is a lunatic.
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essexian76 Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Could’ve sworn we lost by the same score-with 11 men (for the best part) and were 2-0 up, with Modric, Bale and VDV in the side…now what the managers name again?
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77spur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
once again, that was at the start of the rangling about harry and the england job and it clearly effected them there on in. If you want a comparison look at the season before.
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essexian76 Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
How about the 17 seasons before that then? 1993 I think was our only other win-should we bring Venables back? FFS,how can any manager legislate for a player making a gigantic fcuk up as Ade did?
77spur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Well maybe. I thought you were talking about HH though?
77spur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Anyway, i wasnt blameing avb for today, i suggested that his appointment was the very definition of insanity.
Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
The result may have been the same but the two sides couldn’t be more different. Give me that side everytime.
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essexian76 Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
For the billionth time Redknapp effectively sacked himself-end of story-he wanted to leave for England, and would’ve walked ,if offered the post-so let’s move on eh?
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Lordy Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
My point is Harry was staying if we’d wanted him to , getting rid of him without a manager who is proven to be better was suicidal , I’m pissed off with the constant AVB is the 2nd coming bullshit by all that hated Harry.. By not replacing him we’ve cut our own throats and some of our fans have given him Levy the right to do so,
Harry Hotspur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
So naff off and support Arry’s next club. Why are you here? Why?
77spur Reply:
November 18th, 2012 at 11:36 am
yes, if levy wanted him to stay he would have. He was building something and he wanted to win a title with tottenham. He never said he wanted to manage england, he knew it a poisoned chalice.
Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Spot on, this is what the Harry Haters wanted because the grass is always greener apparently. Be nice if some of them were actually big enough to admit they were wrong.
18 games and people are understanding what was obvious after 3. We usually don’t play a system that suits the players.
Ade ruined this game but we should still not concede 3 before half time and 5 in total. We are the only team in the top 11 to have a negative goal difference.
January can’t come quick enough. At least we won’t have to worry about our players getting tired having to play European football as well next season, every cloud has a silver lining, mind you the likes of Bale won’t be here then.
Maybe that’s AVB’s master plan.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
What makes it worse is ades just got fit now misses the next 3 games! What a wolly
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Wolly? Don’t hold back.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Adebayor – what a dollop he was today. A real silly billy.
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Stubert Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
A twerp even?
ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
I have to be careful with the language these days, but I’d go as far as calling him a bit of a donut.
Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
He’s a bad lot and a rum cove. The rotter.
essexian76 Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
He’s a bouncer and a cab or is that floucer and a crab?
mystic arnold Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Or a pilchard
kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
he is a naughty boy alright,getting the belt when he gets home,a jolly good thrashing is what’s needed
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
that was horrible and with thud and dumper in the middle with no strikers it doesn’t look like it will be getting better soon
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seattlespursguy Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Carroll should get more minutes
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
At least his corners beat the first man.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Selling VDV and replacing him with Dempsey in the final hours of the transfer window was insperational last minute judgement from the chairman. Will always prefer 65 minutes of magic to 90 mins of turgid crap.
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essexian76 Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Run that by me again? 65 mins of magic! When-because I can’t recall 10 mins of magic last season out of him-tell me otherwise!
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E4_Yid Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Agreed, people vastly overrate VDV’s importance. Losing Modric on the other hand has crippled us. Dempsey is shite though.
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essexian76 Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Modder’s is a massive loss to us-but let’s not forget-he played in all of shocking performances at the business end of last season. I stil don’t understand why we spent 12m on a keeper, which at best was low priority and not a creative mid, because let’s not forget Huddlestone who playing there, was surplus to requirements in August-so what was plan B?if as has happened, we get a spate of injuries
essexian76 Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Well it certainly had sod-all to do with VDV, that’s for sure!
DJB Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
So our passing game just revolved around Modric, really??? As for last season, how about a run of 6 goals in 5 games – I can’t see Dempsey breaking this club record any time soon.
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essexian76 Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
In every top performance last season we had-you’ll notice one glaring absentee-guess who?
Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Lloris?
77spur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
its frightning isnt it?
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DJB Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Yep.
It was a big call to chop Redknapp in the summer and then not to back his replacement in the transfer window after selling off two key players is really starting to come home to roost.
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Majesquire Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
I’d take Fulham’s Dempsey any day, like I’d take Everton’s Piennar. There’s a lot to this sort of thing, not just that they’re crap players.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Pienaar was never really crap for us, most often played out of position and never really given a fair shot or run of games. Plus the fans thought he was beneath our level for some reason. No doubt at all if he was still here he’d be in the team week in week out atm.
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Not crap? He was woeful. If you can point me in the direction of so much as a successful pass Pienaar made in a Spurs shirt I’d appreciate it.
ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
He made 10 league appearances, probably half of which from the bench. I remember him being played out of position by Redknapp and the fans never accepting him. I also don’t agree that he was ever ‘woeful’. Never on the same planet as Dempsey levels anyway.
And can you argue that he wouldn’t be in the first team atm given our injuries and general squad weakness?
Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
The manager is consulted and agrees to all moves, he has to take his share of the blame.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
I’d never seen Dempsey play before he came to us, although my dad assured me that he’d be a good addition to the team. I am struggling to understand how someone as bad as him could be in our squad. We don’t look a shadow of the rampaging counter attacking side we were. Its been said many times but we lost real quality and replaced it with mediocrity. Until we inject some proper quality into the team we will not be a top four side.
Very very sad.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
We need Benny back, put verts and dawson with walker on the right and get Gallas out. His passing and positioning are poor, although he does give 100%, unlike Dempsey who is a waste of a shirt at the mo.
Glad Hugo got a game
Also, Ade’s was a red card all day long, shame cos 2 up front is the way to go.
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
…not if one of them’s D****** it ain’t.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
This is the dark ages all right. Where the hell is our next win coming from?
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Can’t you recite something stirring for us from Beowulf?
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Paths that will never be crossed,
Hope that is now lost.
A continuous flow of tears
from the reality of my worst fears.
Buried in this sorrow now kept,
in limbo unsure of what’s ahead,
not wanting to be misled.
extract: Melissa June.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Thanks. Apt but yikes!
ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
That hasn’t helped. Have you got anything else?
Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
No, I’m now going to listen to the Shostakovich 8th Symphony, the most miserable piece of music ever written.
Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
No problem Elelel, it may not be Shakespeare and it’s not from Beowulf but I feel that it is of utmost importance in these days of war, hardship and poverty:
Oh! And then this one time? At band camp?
I stuck a flute in my pussy.
Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Did it give a musical rendition of anything?
Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Not after she did that no!
essexian76 Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
It just sounded like some C**T whistling I suppose?
November 17th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Why do players come to us a shadow of the player they were at their former club? This is not the same Dempsey. He’s an imposter. We must have bought him from the same lookalike agency we bought that Pienaar clone from. I’d be worried if I was AVB. I saw that axe man glint in Levy’s eye at the end there. Gone by Xmas for my money.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Maybe there’s something psychological about being a big fish in a small pond.
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Yes, the mystery of Pienaar and Everton.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
I can here the clinking of glasses now as Modic and his agent share a toast in relief to his decision to move on
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stujam Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Yes he is taking extra training because JM says his performances are not good enough for RM.
He was top quality for us, keeping the midfield moving, there are players at RM that are better than him because their game has more to it.
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November 17th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Two positives today. AVB got is right and the start and right at half time. Second, Sandro is a beast and our stand out player.
AVB, does however, deserve criticism regarding the lack of reaction in between the sending off and end of first half.
The hope for us is that we have played nearly all of our huge away games and that our injured players are on the way back. Kanoul, dembele and a&e would have been so useful today. (Sandro has more than filled parker’s boots). Our run of games in the next two thirds of the season will be easier with only one trip away tl the big 4
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Hartley Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Couldn’t agree more, add to that if Friedel had played we would have lost by at least 3 more. Lloris made 2 fantastic saves and his distribution was excellent, he also came out a few times to save where Friedel would have stayed on his line…
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wowsers Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
I dont split Friedel or Lloris. I think they are both worthy of being our number 1. I think Lloris releasing quotes through french media is shit though.
If we can slot together a couple of wins and stay in contentiom whilst our first team stops being injured we might be able to recruit some much needed flair in January and push forward.
We are in damage limitation mode atm but that is down to poor luck rather than AVB’s performance.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
We are in damage limitation mode atm but that is down to poor luck rather than AVB’s performance.
Wouldn’t you say that it’s a bit of both?
Losing at home to Wigan nothing to do with luck, I’d say.
wowsers Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
I mean luck regarding injuries.
AVB is not a brilliant manager but we have few other options. Also judging AVB on an injury ravaged side currently and a side that was rebuilt following the loss of the two best players (earlier in season) is harsh. Moyes is a good manager but paying a huge amount for him now when AVB is not a catastrophe is short sighted.
We are not out of reach of 4th, we have a better run of games coming up and our playmaker should be back soon. Judge him mid february hopefully after we have made a few useful additikns to the squad.
Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Yeah that dive on the floor in the first half from a corner that thankfully was headed away in front of him, as he would have missed it, was quality as was the pointless punch. He did the same against Maribor. He inspires no confidence at all which is vital for a keeper, Friedel No1.
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
We cannot play a right back at leftback, hudd not good enough, dempsey the same throw in gallas also,
ade needs to see a shrink madness what he did.
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Kill me…..
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:47 pm
no you will suffer with us
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Lazio away
West Ham home
Liverpool home
3 defeats away from the sack ?
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Wot happened?, did we win?
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Nearly.
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 18th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Oh well………….
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
I’m willing to pay for Adebayor’s ticket to the ANC, one way only mind…….
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notsohotspurs Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Can you pay for Gallas to be dropped at the knackers yard on the way.
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Hartley Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
I’d be delighted to…..
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
I don’t wanna see Dempsey anymore…
I think Falque is better than him
and Naughton… we just need BAE
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Tough to watch, we would have beaten them given the evidence of the first 15 minitues
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
That’s two humiliators in a row now. (I know that’s not a word, but it is now. We badly need to avenge this indignity at WHL.
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Crikey, the Humiliator! Sounds like a boss in a PS3 game or something in a sex parlour.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
I once worked with a 25st Brum painter who was known as the Crippler!
LLL’s humiliator sounds like apparatus.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
It’s none of those things. It’s a 5-2 loss to the goons.
notsohotspurs Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
that’s his gimp suit
November 17th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
5PUR2 you soapy mugs lol
You lot keep crying lolol
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notsohotspurs Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
is that you Ade ?
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notsohotspurs Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
or Redknapp ?
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Ave it Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Well you know, for sure for sure, wobble wobble, “Sandra Pick my winnings up at the bookie while yer out” wobble wobble
Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Last season called, it wants it’s put downs back!!
Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Well thought out gloat! It must have took you ages.
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Bobbles Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Soapy mugs?
Do you think he meant soppy?
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
he likes us soapy
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
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We continue to be a nervous wreck of a team. We lost one of two front men due to a little stupidity on both Ade and the ref’s part but we still had exactly the same midfield, defence and goalkeeper, all of whom were solid, confident and controlled for the first 20 minutes of the match during which we went ahead.
Why, after losing a striker, did we fall apart as if the defence lost a player and there had been a complete reshuffle? Ronnie Wolman wrote on here after the first 15 minutes of play; “We look strong.Tough.Mentally capable.”, and he was right up to that point. So what happened to the same defence and midfield after the sending off? Granted the arse got the wind behind them but we fell apart! Same performance and score as last time. We have had a fragile & mentally weak-arsed team for far too long now, which hasn’t been properly addressed – Parker and Sandro aside. We are being out organised and mentally bullied by even more sides than the past couple of years and it’s only mid November.
Something tells me AVB may have some talent, but making us a tough to beat side isn’t one of them in spite of that appearing to be a priority. I left the pub at half time; I knew exactly what was coming, I’m a long toothed Spud fan.
COYS
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
“We look strong.Tough.Mentally capable.”, and he was right up to that point. So what happened to the same defence and midfield after the sending off?
That was an illusion. We are Tottenham. Mental strength is not our fortitude.
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PeterTheStoreyTeller Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
If we hurry we will get Arry back before QPR nick im
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Bobbles Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Left the pub at half time?
Pussy.
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Urbane Sturgeon Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
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Bored pussy.
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
We’ve all been anticipating this match, then that guy from Togo had to ruin it! Terribly disappointing, terrible! He’s supposed to help Spurs, not Arsenal. Now we can’t use his skills for the next 3 games. Good job Ade!
I’ve had enough with Huddlestone and Gallas. First 2 goals, both of them were poor. 3rd goal that’s Gallas again. Huddlestone switching off, clumsiness and slowness are too many weaknesses that other players had to compensate for. Gallas was involved in all 3 of Arsenal’s 1st goals. Both of them are off in my book in July and August, period.
Carroll’s been pretty good with his passes and movement, get him on in place of Huddlestone who’s the slowest player in EPL currently. Dawson had been a good leader for us in the past, drop Gallas and sub Michael in.
In the 1st 15 minutes, Vertonghen showed his quality as ball playing centerback, he showed why he should be at the center, where his distribution, composure and passing dictates Spurs play from the back.
Honestly hope Lloris plays in goal from now on.
AVB did well for the 2nd half with 3-5-1. The team gave it a go, although it was too much for Spurs in the end, it’s still pleasing to see.
With the injured players starting to come back next week, it’s light at the end of what has been a long and dark tunnel.
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Our defence is really rotten. We have had several games where we’ve looked ‘hard to break down’ for most of the game but then fallen apart sporadically. Very weird. Walker is culpable sometimes, but with Sandro shielding and decent CB’s and keepers we are still very very flaky and fragile.
The only thing I can come up with is a recalling of Dawson to the starting line-up. Him and Vertonghen together may instil a bit of the ‘mental toughness’ we are so lacking. Maybe. Either way I think that Gallas has been a bit shite this year and that the rookie Caulker may need to be eased out of the team and eased back into it occasionally so he can build more experience. Seeing him up against Ibra in the week showed that he isn’t up to dealing with world class strikers just yet – and there are a few of those in the premier league.
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Will Levy give AVB money in Jan or will our squad be broken up ?
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
hard to see sandro and baler wanting to stay really,thats the main problem with not replacing super luka with some kind of name
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
The other thing which must be addressed is that we are now officially on a terrible run of form. One win against Southampton and 4 losses in our last 5 league games.
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UnkleKev Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Three of those being against Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City. A bit of perspective wouldn’t go amiss.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Doesn’t really matter. It’s a poor run of results. We had a run of piss games before that and failed to take full advantage.
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Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
It’s got sweet FA to do with form.
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
shall we just blame dumper and move on,this gu has a whole heap of work to do,he just gets in the way as far as i can see
i swear he used to score good goals last year and a lot of them and now he looks liek he hasn’t got a flipping clue,good luck to him he is going to need it
they have the 10man excuse,the crazy ade tackle but really a decent team shouldn’t crumble with 10 men,i thought that was the appeal of an AVB,poor performance,no bottle
i am niether an arry clapper nor avb blamer but
,in the end it’s a results business so avb needs to get winning fast to give him a chance to get in who he wants otherwise levy will be asking wifey for the keys to the gun cupboard
even west brom are getting way from us
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jfdit Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
quite a lot not going right for us this year koj, my view is we’re lacking quality in key areas in particular at full back on both flanks, our forward line especially defoe looks lightweight
these squad shortfalls aren’t avb’s fault, he didn’t sign the useless f*cks in our squad did he?
it’s taken 3 months to get a key forward fit and he’s turned into a liability today, he’s turned into a bad bit of business just like dempsey and jenas mk3
AVB comes across as a thoroughly decent man but I can’t help thinking he’s now on borrowed time, lose against wet spam and he’s done for despite the odd glimmer of hope we’ve seen.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
these squad shortfalls aren’t avb’s fault, he didn’t sign the useless f*cks in our squad did he?
Um, yes. He signed perhaps the 2 most useless fucks in our team. Credit where it’s due and all that.
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jfdit Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
AVB probably wouldn’t know who dempsey was before meeting him at the spurs lodge FFS, last minute levy panic buy & any idiot would know that
in reality ade,sig and verts were signed before he landed the job so how can they be his signings?
ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
So you’re saying he took the managers job knowing he would have no influence over the squad or say in the Summer recruitment policy?
Now why would he agree to that?
jfdit Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
he took the job because it was a chance to restore his reputation and he has no other offers @ 3 million a year basic
who would have turned down a job to manage a top 4 side regardless of player recruitment policy?
did we need a 12 million goalkeeper? did we need sig? I think a goal scorer who can play 1 up front, a replacement for modric and cover on the wings/fullback were more pressing issues
ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
So you are saying that Levy single-handedly runs the transfer and scouting policy, the manager has nothing to say about the matter? If so, that’s quite worrying, no?
jfdit Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
who else does it if levy doesn’t?
levy appoints the scouts but the change of direction mooted in redknapp’s leaving PR was proof that the manager role at spurs is now to coach players supplied/chosen by the club
look at avb’s signings at cheatski and you’ll see the type of player he likes
ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Think a sizeable chunk of that may have something to do with the relative purse dimensions of Levy and Abramovich. I’m sure most managers and chairmen would ‘like’ players like Mata.
Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
No he just agreed to them or for all we know suggested them.
kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
people don’t seem to like vdv but vdv and modric were world class players whether they like it or not even if for 25mins,creating/passing in the middle unlocking defences/linking midfield and attack,our midfield has nothing this season,i’m talking centrally of course,dumpsey,sigg and thud can’t do the same and it’s hurting us,dembele makes a difference creatively and parker will let sandro be more rampant but right now we are in trouble
levy should have got the cheque book out,avb has the season as far as i’m concerned but it’s a results business obviously
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Levy wont be asking for anything if i see his wife first.
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November 17th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Its time to stop shopping in poundland folks.This is what w get.To to move a few players on who week in and out are either to old or not good enough.Other players will get the chance to shine.Gallas,Hudd,Parker,Ade,Dempsey,Sigurdson all fall into these areas.Some are out injured but really except for Parker how many of the the list are worth keeping.Parker i fear will not fit well in the system plus his age.Move themon in January and push hard for four top players.Motinho,Willain Llorente and one more midfielder to help out in the goals/attacking area.Don’t blame AVB so much its Levy and his cheap replacements that are making me angry.
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:07 pm
that would be nice but i think our chance was better in the summer to get players like that we surely won’t be looking appealing in jan,Llorente no chance,willian not sure if he ever was,can only hope moutinho is pre-agreed,becasue we need help in the middle
and hope we can find a couple of diamonds somewhere which seems unlikely,need to find another modrat
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Urbane Sturgeon Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
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“push hard for four top players.Motinho,Willain Llorente and one more midfielder ”
Please define ‘push hard’.
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Apply conjecture right up till the last 2 hours of the transfer deadline, then miss all 3?
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
haha,push hard means half of the last day,not just the last half an hour
Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
We all love a dreamer, now what’s that song?
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stujam Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Tottenham will not pay the price (including wages) that is needed to bring in top flight players. Once again can I remind you of Hazard, Oscar, and the midget playing in the midfield for the scum today, he made our midfield look stationery. Until or unless we pay that kind of money in wages we will continue to get the level of player we now have, maybe an occasional gem will be found, but don’t hold your breath.
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November 17th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
A message to all of the AVB fan club
and “Harry haters” who frequent this board.
You have now got exactly what you so richly deserve a team of mid-table mediocrity .
When exactly are you all going to wake up &
smell the coffee.
We have an incompetent in charge
AVB should go and go now was a message I posted
not today but three months ago.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
I told you all I would tell you I told you so.
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
you need to tell levy because he sacked arry and brought in levy
just like arry didn’t deserve the sack for 4th,AVB deserves a full season,let’s see where we are in may before you start crowing
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
brought in avb *ahem*
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Urbane Sturgeon Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
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AVB did ask to be judged at the end of the season and I reckon any manager deserves that courtesy lest he take us to shouting distance of the bottom 3 by, say, March.
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Bobbles Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Hardly AVBs fault today, he did the right thing starting with 442, then made positive changes at half time.
What he cant do though, is polish a turd.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
He can, but it’ll still be a turd.
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November 17th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
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From the Grauniad last August:
André Villas-Boas has admitted that a fourth-placed Premier League finish is the minimum requirement from his debut season at Tottenham Hotspur. The manager is keen to stamp his personality on the club, after taking over from Harry Redknapp in the summer, although he has said that he will not push his changes too quickly.
Villas-Boas gave short shrift to the notion that it could be a season of transition; perhaps, as he is mindful that Redknapp was dismissed despite coming in fourth last May. “That’s what was proposed to me and that’s what I accepted,” he said, when asked whether he had to finish in the top four.
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Today, arse passed us in the league, we are 8th, we are now 10 points behind the leaders and dropping fast, we are one of only 2 teams in the top half with a minus goal difference, if the toons beat swansea tomorrow by 3 goals we go 9th, and if fulham beat sunderland on monday we go 10th. We need injured players back urgently, it’s begining to look like more than a blip.
Top 4? I was just getting used to that question not sounding silly.
Come on the AVB (or should that be ‘players’?).
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Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
The injured players won’t make a blind bit of difference. It’s been the wrong system all season, nothing else.
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November 17th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
I saw this debacle coming during the Wigan defeat. So i decided to drill a fucking great hole in the kitchen wall and fit a ventilation system out of the back of the dryer instead. Best decision I’ve made so far this week.
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Urbane Sturgeon Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
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Sounds like you had a better afternoon than most of us.
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Bobbles Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
There’s support for you. Maybe next time you should buy a ticket so you can go and boo.
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Phil McAvity Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Nah come on, you don’t really mean that. You’re just letting off steam!!
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notsohotspurs Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
a lot of people will be venting this weekend
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mystic arnold Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Gottle of Geer Gottle of gerr
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
johnyc for manager,great decision making
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
How disappointing for you. You only needed to drill a hole 110mm or so.
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November 17th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Really hard to judge that game today.
We were the better side until Ade got sent off but for the rest of the half we were just clinging on.
AVB then changes the side and system at half time and to be fair, we did better than I was expecting.
Difficult to make those changes in the first half and you can wonder why he brought Dempsey on at all.
As I said, hard to judge it, just a shame a cracking game was spoilt by the red card.
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November 17th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
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Question for Our Harry:
Is there a league finishing position at which you would consider AVB’s position untenable, and if so, what is it? Sorry if that’s a little facile for your taste but please humour me anyway.
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Bobbles Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
First season, key players sold or injured.
Got to give him 3 years regardless, so anything top half this year will be tolerated – Levy won’t pull the trigger even if we finish 10th.
Next year will be a different story though…
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Sandy Denny: The Optimist. “Next year there will be many flowers, each one much brighter than the one before”.
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david Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
I would say he should be judged at the end of the season.
By then, he should have some of BAE, Parker, Dembele, Caulker and Kaboul back and he may have a chance to buy and sell in January so the squad is more to his liking.
To be honest, I don’t know if he is a pretender or the next big thing but time will tell.
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jfdit Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
if he’s still here in January and we sign players of the ilk of saha & nelsen again we’ll know the answer
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Quntum Physics Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
If AVB is given players of the standard you suggest then he may resign.
notsohotspurs Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
if AVB doesnt get top four he is gone.
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jfdit Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
it’s shit or bust this season for AVB, fail to get top 4 and bale, sandro & dembele will look at us in different light – truth is they’re too good for a mid table club
levy needs to remove pressure on manager by giving him some decent signings
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Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Exactly that’s why it’s so important we play a system that suits the players and not a system that suits AVB’s chalkboard. He’s won every game on there and can’t understand why we haven’t.
With no Euro football players will go and we are a mid table club again. You either sack the guy or splash the cash when players cost more, the January window.
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
i don’t know about HH but if you don’t make europe you’ll probably be in levys office
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November 17th, 2012 at 4:28 pm
ARSENAL ARSENAL ARSENAL, ARSENAL ARSENAL ARSENAL!
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Boy Charioteer Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Is your keyboard working properly?
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Is your brain working properly?
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melcyid Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
devil worshipper
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Wheres Billy ‘Witch Finder General’ Legit when you need him?
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 18th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
I’m on it. The heathen gooner gobshite interloper above will feel the wrath of the righteous one and be made to pay for he has chosen the path of the Devil and must atone for his sins!
Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
I bet the Cricket Club was a great place to be today.
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melcyid Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
I knew were done as soon as I saw Webb was the 12 man. he was waiting for an excuse to change the game.He gave a yellow to Lennon when he had his back to the incident,as he turned round and saw a gooner rolling around he automatically reached for the card.Pfft
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Billy Legit Reply:
November 18th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
ACAB!
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November 17th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Is it true that the QPR fans are singing “Harry, come and save us”.
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Apparently so. He would be hard-pushed to do worse for them than Hughes. Triffic.
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
defoe to qpr £15m nailed on
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November 17th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
We need to get a sporting director in asap. Remember when we used to sign some half-decent players?
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Summerspur Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Mus for sporting director . Sign tha facky samba n Shelvey
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November 17th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Oh dear. That chump of a manager Brendan Rodgers has got Liverpool to within 2 points of us. What say you HH ?
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
i never agreed with the negative talk of martinez and rodgers i think they are both good managers
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Me neither. That was just ‘I Told You So’ crowing of a different variety.
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:23 pm
I expect HH is chumping at the bit to answer that one.
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November 17th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Arsenals midfield contained three players who are effectively box to box players Wiltshire Arteta and Carzola We had a giant in Sandro and Thudd who has great skill but zero mobility Things will be better when our injured players return I’ve been with this club for47 years and I was proud of our efforts on and off the potch
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ELELEL Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
It was a bit of a hotch-potch though, eh? Thought Adebayor made a botch of it to be honest.
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kojac Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
our midfield is hopeless at the moment,really you need to control or at least have some influence in the middle,parker,sandro and dembele appears to ahve a bit of everything but no idea how long it will take
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Spurstacus Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
You’ve been on the scotch.
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November 17th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
I just heard AVB in his post-match interview saying he felt that we were the better team from the “first minute to the last”.
Does that scare the shit out of anyone else or is it just me?
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November 17th, 2012 at 6:29 pm
I’d like to personally thank Michael Dawson for that crunching 2nd half tackle on Theo Walcott. It’s reassuring to know we stil have a tall, strong, committted, ball winning centre half…warming the bench!
I’m surprised AVB didn’t play Siggy at center-half, instead, raising the high line a little more while he’s at it…
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November 17th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Ronnie Wolman Says:
November 17th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
We look strong.Tough.Mentally capable. lol lol lol
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Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
You ou are right.I was right only up to that point
but not sure if you noticed.Adebayor was sent off.
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November 17th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
melcyid Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
I knew were done as soon as I saw Webb was the 12 man. he was waiting for an excuse to change the game.He gave a yellow to Lennon when he had his back to the incident,as he turned round and saw a gooner rolling around he automatically reached for the card.Pfft another numb nuts.anyone knows you go in studs showing feetup and off you go.so stop the crying.why would webb care if spds won or arsenal won grow up little crybaby.
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melcyid Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
wizard of
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November 17th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Andre Villas-Boas had no qualms about the sending off, although he did insist that his side had “controlled the game from the first minute to the last”. He added: “Players want to dispute the ball, there was no intention to do any harm. I think the sending-off determined the game, but the referee made the right decision.
for the spuds fans who said webb favoured arsenal.your own manager said it was a red.
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david Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Why not use the reply function when replying ?
Saves you typing someone elses comments and is easier to follow.
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Mark Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
I’m delighted we controlled the game from the first minute to the last, for a moment there I thought we had lost 5-2.
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david Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Bit worrying if AvB said/ believes that, it is the type of comment you would expect from whinger.
Seem to recall that aftr we beat their team of placentas 5-1 in the Carling cup, he said they were the better team as they had more possession.
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Ronnie Wolman Reply:
November 17th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
He meant we controlled the first minute and the last the other 88 we were in lala land
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