Posted on Wednesday, 16th May 2012 by Harry Hotspur
The Fenway Sports Group have terminated their contract with Kenny Dalglish and whilst for some, their heads won’t be in the right place to do so it’s actually a good day for Liverpool fans to have a good long think about how they approach the future.
The emotional investment made by fans of football in clubs is has rarely ever been returned …but the feeling of being short changed is bitterly exaggerated these days by the unrelenting financial leeching that football clubs impose upon those that fund them. Ticket prices up, satellite subscription prices up, polyester shirt prices up, bottle of pop at half time prices up. Same small, crappy plastic seat.
Liverpool fans need to take stock of what it is exactly that they think they are supporting.
Moyes called Everton the people’s club and this simply serves to reflect a sense of community that still exists on Merseyside. It’s an echo if you like of what they called the ‘Blitz Spirit’ of London.
For those of you joining us late, the game has changed and nobody values your support or gives a stuff about you. Seriously, they don’t. You storm off in a strop and you are replaced in an instant. You’re a client reference number, credit card number with all but the last four digits asterix’d out. That’s all that you are. Getting in you in and out of the ground, communicating with you? A chore.
The upside to the money pouring in and everything going well is easy. The trappings of wealth and success bring problems that aren’t problems at all. What colour shall I paint my yacht? Should I buy an apartment in Monaco or perhaps St. Moritz? Shall I get, ‘Aguero’ on the back of my replica shirt or, ‘Kompany’?
It’s dealing with losing. Dealing with being hurt, sucking, getting beaten and looking like you’ll never win. Scratching together enough for the kids school uniform that requires talent.
Liverpool lost repeatedly this season. I don’t mean in the conventional sense, by conceding goals I mean as a club.
They bought badly and they spent heavily while they were at it. Andy Carroll seemed only sufficiently humiliated and thus motivated to get into shape physically and mentally by the time it was too late anyway. I could go through the others but it would be to no purpose, everyone saw what happened.
The Suarez business was deeply unpleasant to watch unfold. One of the greatest clubs in the world was hijacked by a tin pot victim mentality that whined and bickered until the owners, the paymasters reminded everyone that ‘normal people’, ‘balanced people’ were at best deeply uncomfortable with the whole business. And so, ‘…stop it!’
Suarez, whilst a talented footballer isn’t an honorable man. He doesn’t conduct himself in an open and honest manner. Like Drogba, he fakes, cheats and plays the ‘sportsmanship’ card to such an extent that no matter what genuine good he may ever do, the response will always be, ‘Yeah, but it’s Suarez.’
Dalglish surprised me that he went along with the siege mentality over the substandard players and Luis Is Innocent rubbish. He emotionally over committed to people that didn’t deserve anyone’s love. Dalglish’s post match interviews were cringe-worthy. Masterclasses in churlishness. Dalglish wrapped himself up and weighted himself down in the emotion of it all and it sank him.
The argument that the Carling Cup was worth anything was naive. The final itself was unremittingly bad viewing. The naivety displayed here though was eclipsed by the belief that Dalglish had that they were going to beat Chelsea and win the FA Cup too. Of course it didn’t happen and if two pots might in some surreal parallel universe have been staved off criticism of a lackluster season, winning one was no good to anyone on any planet.
For Liverpool fans this might be a good point to draw breath and think about their public image. Think about the future. Football clubs need money, nothing else. Just money. They don’t need petitions, supporters groups, tips on replica shirt design, letters to the chairman, or to have the name of their purely commercial operation dragged through the mud by extremists.
King Kenny bit the bullet for a whole heap of quite valid reasons and instead of grieving for someone that didn’t die, it might be a salutary opportunity to think about the best way to support your club, rather than feed the vanity of an emotional investment that’s worth nothing to anyone but you.
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May 16th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
24th??
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Habib Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
So Spurs can hire Dalglish then eh?!
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May 16th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Well,
Must say i dont feel Kenny hard done by, Hodgson actuslly tried to do something about it, agree about the romantic money view there…
Hope THFC can accumulate some of that stuff
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May 16th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Is ratboy not humilating us with his moving on to better things talk when the c**t has a long contract.
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david Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
He can go as far as I am concerned, provided we get decent money for him.
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robbie Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
spot on!! we need to get rid get in ganso or Eriksen to replace him and get it done soon.
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Eyeball Paul Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Exactly lads, HH is remarkable quiet on the subject of ‘No like Chicken Badge – Part 2′ …..Luka should p*ss off now, he has about as much loyalty to Spurs as Sol Campbell….again, he should take a long hard look at his own performances throughout the season and then ask himself, ‘could he have done more to help us succeed in getting turd place at least? He is the epitomy of what is wrong with the modern day footballer….Adios pipsqueek, enjoy Manchester, enjoy Liverpool, enjoy West London – you is still a tosser…
May 16th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
If all it takes is a trip to Boston, I’ll cover Harry’s airfare myself. Hell, I’ll even throw in a pair of Red Sox tickets.
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Ziege Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
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hoofing Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
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May 16th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
liverpool let themselves down very dadly over the suarez affair and kenny’s churlishness, indeed downright rudeness to interviewers under the very mistaken impression that he was being amusing and witty was cringe inducingly embrrassing. he should never have gone back and they should never have taken him back. a lack of familiarity with the english game probably led them to believe he could do the job. sad that his memeory there is now tainted. as to “ratboy”, i think we should calmly wait and see. he said he was looking forward to the higest level in regard to the euros and has been misquoted. he learned a lesson last summer and is unlikley to want to eat humble pie twice. if chelsea win i doubt levey will let him go due to the precedent for bale and others. if chelsea lose i wd imagine that with other business done he would let him leave for 35 mill. i would. he has not dominated and dictated a game all season. beautiful football with great composure and wonderful skills that take him past a player, BUT he has made a dumb square pass to the opposition more often than he has made the telling pass thro to a striker or even bale. and he does not score anywhere near enough. we can do better for less than 35 mill
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david Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Suspect Man U will be in for him, a bidding war with Chelsea is no bad thing. For all his movement and quality, his lack of goals and as you say, failure to dominate games means I too think we should sell for decent money.
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Jamie Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
I think this Modric goals business gets talked about a lot, so I just looked up Xavi’s goal record. 48 in 414 career appearances for Barcelona. Modric at Spurs 13 in 125. So both roughly 1 in 10.
Fair enough Xavi is a better version of Modders. But they both perform more or less the same role, namely picking it up from the back 4 and get us up the pitch. His form dipped after Jan certainly, but the critique of him reminds me of Carrick, who also never scored… nobody realised how important he was until he was gone. I wouldn’t sell without an equal replacement, and there ain’t many – hence his price tag!
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david Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Those are interesting stats, but how many assists does Modric have in comparision with Xavi ? I suspect there is a huge difference between the two
and Xavi can dominate a game whereas Luka does not and sometimes vanishes altogether.
Re Carrick, I never really rated him and only appreciated what he brought to the team after he left so fair play on that point.
Jamie Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
I guess my point on Modric is his role is so deep that assists isn’t the real way of measuring his contribution. It’s the number of times he completes an intelligent forward pass. Xavi is kind of the same, I don’t know those stats but when I’ve watched him he does most of his work outside the final third..lets be honest if it wasn’t for last summers chicken badge antics we wouldn’t be hyper critical of him. I understand that, loyalty works both ways – but my take is if Harry can settle Bale and Modric down, heck I’m prepared to put it all behind us with all three of them (so long as HR stops talking up what a great job he’s doing)
david Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
On his good days, he sets the tone and pace of our play and is almost like the teams heart beat. On his bad days, he can tend to vanish and become a luxury.
He is not helping himself with these comments in the press (if they are true) and as you say, a lot of us have gone off him because of those comments.
Going to be a long and interesting transfer window!
LLL Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
You are quite right. Criticizing Modric for his goal ratio is naive in the extreme. That isn’t his job. Neither are direct assists. However, if you look at how many assists are ‘assisted’ by his initial pass I think you’d all be quite surprised. And generally speaking, he is the heartbeat of the team setting the tempo and movement.
david Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
If we accept he does not score many goals or provide many direct assists for goals, is he really worth 35-40 million ?
I think Man U will be after him but would he want to move up there or hang around for renewed interest from Chelsea ?
The Tottinghams Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 3:29 am
“they should never have taken him back” I totally agree. Just like us and the boy Keane
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May 16th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Atomic kitten have reformed to appear at the KK farewell gig.
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May 16th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Wow. You did not just wax lyrical…. Sir you just finished Champion’s League to Martin Luther King’s Europa!
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May 16th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Is anyone else totally underwhelmed with Hodgson and his squad ? His insistence in using 1,000 words when 10 would do is grating already.
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daytripper11 Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Check out the comments on the previous thread. The squad is awful.
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david Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
What is it with us taking teenage gooners on these trips where all they do is complete their homework ?
First Walnutt and now Poxlade Chamberlain.
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Frontwheel 2 Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
I know he’s red,but he is a great player and bringing him on as a sub when some things got to happen is a great option.
Eyeball Paul Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Sturridge must feel a bit hard done by….Engerland seem to living in the Michael Owen memories of whenever it was….
Another overrated Goon, if you ask me…
May 16th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Kenny was given a monumental task to turn that club around. When he arrived, he had no strikers, no natural width and no playmakers in the middle. He addressed the striker issue (Carroll will be a star – in the right system) and he picked up some promising young mids in Henderson and Adam, who both had major injury problems. He should have been given one more year.
My fear now is that they will hire Martinez or Lambert, who will turn them into a serious contender immediately.
My hope is that they look for a proven European manager who will come in with a big ego, waste tons of money on favoured players who will fail in the PL, and leave them in shambles. Someone similar to Juande Ramos.
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Eyeball Paul Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Agree with carroll – next year will be a big year for him (and he may actually have a good Euros – he is beginning to hit form)
Adam is only a toe-rag: see Joey Barton for his ilk….
The Eyeballer sees that Liverpool will struggle for a few more years yet..They need 3 / 4 quality players to become a ‘Top 4 Challenger’
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May 16th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Dalglish, McCleish, the Prem is off the the leash..happy days.
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May 16th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
I dinae Ken wat ee was on boot,see u jimme
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May 16th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Good. Two dour,miserable Jock managers sacked and another 2 relegated. About time that over represented cadre was slimmed down. Maybe now we will find some English talent to help move the international game forward. But then probably not…
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4 Ever Hopeful Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Nice one.
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May 16th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
A great read aitch. One that Liverpool fans would find difficult to disagree about mate I’m sure.
What do we reckon klinnsman,cappello,redknapp,mourinho or goose?
That’s 2 jobs going already in the pl
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kenny powers Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Oops 3 jobs
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essexian76 Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
4 jobs, you forgot Chelsea
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May 16th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
I wondered if they would consider taking Redknapp off our hands and put Carragher under him to be trained up (and no I don’t mean to learn about tax returns and media training).
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May 16th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Let Luka stroll around somewhere else we have Sandro.
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Eyeball Paul Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
And Pienaar..
We have ‘Arry for the next season, so it will be high time he earns his corn with his famed ability for ‘man management’ and get this boy playing for us like he does for Everton. If he can, Pienaar is more dynamic option to both VdV and Chicken Badge Face….
Possible midfield (which could have been played last season:
Lennon….Parker…Sandro….Bale
……….Pienaar…….
…………Ade……….
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May 16th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
I hope to feck Levy keeps Moders for the full length of his contract, £16m for 7 years is ok by me, dont pay him a penny more in wages either.
FFS someone has to take a stand again these bloody premadonnas who we worship week in week out, ive had enough of the greedy fcuk witts!
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Frontwheel 2 Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
My feeling exactly,as Levy was meant to have said to him “play or I’ll let you rot in the stands” fukim
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Eyeball Paul Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Lads, get 35m – 40m for him and get in a suitable, exciting replacement i.e Hazard etc…(all dependent on our qualifying for the CL, no doubt…..Modric (or ‘Arry’s consistent trust in him) is one of the reasons why we have so far failed to qualify))
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MysteriousStranger Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Isn’t Hazard supposed to be demanding £200k p/wk? And was quoted as saying he’d be likely headed to Manchester, just wasn’t saying which team in Manchester.
As much as I like your suggestion in principle, we have to secure a lesser name on less money. Kind of how we got Modric in the first place.
david Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Hazard is supposed to be Citeh bound. As you say, we would not pay that type of wage.
May 16th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
I’d like Modric to go to the Chavs; they lose in the CL final, we get the CL. We bring in better plays, they lose players, and their old players get…er older.
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May 16th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
If ratboy goes theres only City with the money for him, fuck selling him to UTD or the Chavs.
No way!
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May 16th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
And as for them Toffee nose scousers trying to get Pienaar on the cheap with there “He has come home” quotes they can feck off too! Moyes wanted £10m upwards before we got him, either pay up or crawl back under ya scouse stones That or hand us the bootleg beatle you call a right back!
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May 16th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Err left back, lol
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May 16th, 2012 at 8:24 pm
Sorry no sympathy for KD- while as a player he would have graced any of the top teams in the world; it was his behaviour as a manager, defending that gormless, nasty, subterranian shitehawk.
And whats more; allowing HIS team and HIS club be used to proclaim the shitehawks supposed innocence, which brought Liverpool down in everyones estimation.
He damaged the club, and in the eyes of the American owners-that was the step too far- it was never about the results- it was the defence of the N word, and he had to go, and deservedly.
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May 16th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
I’m biding my time on Modders. He’s a shifty ponce, of that there is no doubt.
Whilst he does appear to ‘have a pair’ coming out with more guff, they seem to me to be extremely small. maybe about the right size for rat earrings
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Eyeball Paul Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
….some silence broken from ya HH!Good man!
BTW: I wonder what the average HH rating ChickenBadgeFace got throughout the season?..I reckon 6.243
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nobby nobbs Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
We will never see the best of Sandro while the Midget Vierra is at THFC. He needs to shut up or we should sell him to the highest bidder outside London.
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May 16th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
i haven’t read any press about the pool,just here but it shows the yanks in charge don’t except failure,the league season was along way from good enough,like someone said lots of jobs going
brave of old Roy to choose terry,i would have drawn a line under it myself and moved on to younger players to think about Brasil
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Steveo1987 Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Look, it’s Te-wee and Bwa-sil. Aplologies to Roy but you got to have a laugh ‘aven’t you?
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May 16th, 2012 at 8:40 pm
HH, you are also very quiet on Ade – to me, The Eyeballer I really hope we keep him, the man is fast becoming a Spurs legend:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2145251/Emmanuel-Adebayor-I-want-stay-Tottenham.html
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May 16th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Hey, seems Moddy is piping up about ifs and maybes… I say get rid, this is boring, sell fo highest amount and reinvest. I read that Montolivo was available this summer, he is a perfect replacement. We should go for Jovetic and Vargas while we’re in florence…
The ramblings of a mad man….what am I becoming…
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May 16th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
No fucking about at Liverpool, legend or not out the door you go after two cup finals and a shitty league campaign. I fully expect Levy to sack Redchump in the next 7 days, come on Danny
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LDNYid Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Can’t see it, he’s got another crack next season me thinks.
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A_Felching Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
crack at what? We will win fuck all with him
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May 16th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
“I fully expect Levy to sack Redchump in the next 7 days” I wouldn’t bet tuppence on that happening.
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May 16th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
I was just thinking, (something I don’t do a lot of) when Everton, finished 4th. The bindippers finished 5th, but won the CL; there was an almighty clamour for them to be back in it, and they were. A precedent has been set, if the Chavs do win it, why can’t we take our place? Over to you DL!
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May 16th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Any ITK word on Vertonghen?
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MysteriousStranger Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Deal done, so the twitter would lead me to believe, though the figure quoted was £13 mill. Sounds like Levy’s lost his negotiating touch if that’s true, last I heard they wanted £9mill or £10 mill! Either that or he realised quiblling over a couple of million could leave any potential deal dead in the water (Damiao etc.).
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MysteriousStranger Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
*quibbling
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david Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Even 13 million does not sound too bad, we need a long term quality CB and hopefully we have now found one.
He also plays LB for Belgium, so that may come in useful.
May 16th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
wouldn’t it be nice if the scousers wanted redpike
and modric for 50 mill.we could throw in a few other players who eat wages for never playing for a bargain 100 million then get a good manager like jol in…wonder why nobody has thought of that before….sorry i was dreaming.
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essexian76 Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Dreaming that Jol is a good manager, nightmare more like!
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May 16th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Will KK go one better than JC and will there be a 3rd coming? hope so!
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May 16th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Our #1, 2 and 3 priorities are strikers. I don’t think we should be spending that much money on Vertonghen.
Having watched him play 20 times this season, I am convinced Caulker is already better than Kaboul and Dawson and should be starting next to Gallas next season. If I have time in the morning I will post a full analysis on Caulker.
Nelson and King should be had on the cheap and would be excellent #5 and #6 defenders to help mentor our youth.
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May 16th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Great! something else for the scuzzers to bleat on about how hard done by they are. They’ll probably anniversarize this as well and refuse to play on this day in May for years to come, FFS!
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May 16th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
ouch!
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May 17th, 2012 at 8:00 am
Harry for Liverpool – nailed on
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dell Reply:
May 17th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
lets hope so.
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