Posted on Saturday, 4th February 2012 by Harry Hotspur
Good morning.
If Premiership clubs were horses, you’d expect the owners of Liverpool Football Club to be paying a few unexpected visits to their yard to see how things were and perhaps ask, ‘just what the hell was going on?’
Liverpool are having a resurgence on the pitch, but at what cost? It’s unreasonable that Mr Dalglish be culpable for each and every indiscretion by his players. But the manner he backed the buck toothed twit Mr Suarez only served to undo a reputation he spent a lifetime earning.
I don’t want to get bogged down in the barrack room minutia that some Liverpool cranks have immersed themselves in about specifically was said, with what intonation etc etc . In this country we don’t tolerate racism, racist words, racist intonation, be it, ‘nigger’, ‘negrito’, or plain old, ‘blackie’. All of those terms suck and you just don’t do it. If you have any self respect, you don’t debate doing it either.
Mr Dalglish and the other Liverpool cranks who have pinned their colours to this particularly grubby little mast have not just embarrassed themselves, they’ve damaged their brand forever. How? By allowing the inherent frailty of being a Scouser contaminate a whole football club.
There is a dreadful and widespread victim culture on Merseyside. I’ve never encountered a part of the country where people are constantly feeling hard done by or looking for reasons why they ought to be.
Yes, Hillsborough and Heysel were both undoubtedly appalling, but that City was also major hub for the slave trade. It’s estimated that over 3 million Africans were shipped in by enterprising Liverpool traders. Three million people.
All I see going on in Liverpool is a few tourists scuttling about in a rather depressing little museum.
That City and that club need to urgently take a look at themselves. In 2010, Forbes Magazine placed them 6th most valuable football team in the world. That value trickles away like sand in an hourglass.
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February 4th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Sandro to start please.
2-1 to the Spurs!
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February 4th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Your pointless diatribe is an indictment of how much you’re looking forward to your excellent season so far come to an end at Anfield. The lady doth protest too much, methinks. YNWA
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February 4th, 2012 at 11:42 am
Great argument yes blame the current Liverpool supporters for the slave trade. And while your on your holier than thou crusade have a look at the state of the area your club is in.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 11:43 am
You really are a child. I’m not blaming any Liverpool fans past or present for the Slave Trade, rather offering some perspective on a city with too many whining gits in it.
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 11:52 am
That’s why we are doing something about it. It’s called Regeneration – and a costs hell of a lot less than Liverpool has rec’d in Government Aid.
All you lot want to do is look at plans and feel hard done by.
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February 4th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Everton our new feeder club are of course exempt from your critique H.
Liverpool like Manchester, Bradford ,Burnley and many other locations ‘up noorth’ do have legitimate reasons to feel put upon stemming from our collective failure to ensure that wealth and opportunities are fairly shared.
But that said Liverpool has taken crying and whinging to the highest levels of artform, which is why they were an European City of cultures a bit back.
Saha to score twice…………
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Liverpool was once one of the wealthiest cities in the country, Manchester too. There many reasons they are no longer wealthy, one of which is that times change. There is no entitlement to wealth. You get what work for. Don’t you?
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
In exactly the same way as there is no entitlement to CL football, even if you are a scouser.
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dancingbarber Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
If you get what you work for we’d all be rich. Some work Some get rich little relationship between the two!!!
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February 4th, 2012 at 11:47 am
That’s a good lead, HH.
I probably act a little biased against Scousers.
They were very arrogant during their glory days and insufferable about the Spanish Waiter.
The T-shirt thing with Suarez was a diaster and should never have been allowed by any decent PR Director. It may as well have read “We support our convicted racist…”
What gets my goat is that thick sods like Toilet seat Johnson wore the shirt, too!
I have to say that I am hugely respectful of the unnamed England players who (according to today’s Telegraph) told the FA that they were unhappy with Terry as captain.
BIOYRSC
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February 4th, 2012 at 11:50 am
H, I think you’ve been bold and outspoken. As it happens, I agree with you. I lived there for eight years and I think the victim culture is common. Further, LFC has not covered itself in glory with its response to the gerbil’s stupidity. Keep being the conscience of Spurs fans.
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
They’ve turned “victim culture” into an industry up there.
“Gissa job. I can do that. I can be a victim”
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February 4th, 2012 at 11:57 am
Why dont you concentrate at yr small shity club. Yr mngr is a crook and yr club is nowhere and never will b as big as Liverpool. North London is shity area to live in as well
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 11:50 am
The benefits of classical education…
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
You beat me to that HH.
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
By two hours!
SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
And the OP by seven minutes.
D Doc Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Didn’t your owners make there fortune in hedge-funds, The same people who’s fraudulent behaviour is implicate in world economy collapse. There the equivalent of modern day Al Capone’s but instead of henchmen & guns they have lobyits & credit cards.
Hedge fund managers are an abomination on society & have cost the tax- payer’s a lot more than harry is being accused of.
At least if Harry is found quilty we won’t start wearing ridiculous T-shirts that would bring shame on our club
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
What was that late 70′s song by Jilted John called? Oh yes, that’s it- ‘Bekim is a moron’.
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Kevtheyid Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
O dear shell suits,murders(juve fans) Nazis,car removal contractors,work escapist,the women are buck bags.I could go on the hole town is counterfeit “
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melcyid Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
in fact even the beatles founded their early rise to fame by ripping of Rnb black artists and doing cover versions as did most cavern dwellers.
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February 4th, 2012 at 11:58 am
You should be embarrassed by this article
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Feel free to expand on this in your own time.
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February 4th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
What is this? Spurs have a good side but you are so far behind us in terms of support and trophies it’s laughable! You have won fewer league titles than Huddersfield Town, that is how big Spurs are. You also burned your own town last summer. Finally, I really hope to God Spurs never have their own Hillsborough.
If you are a youngster (younger than about 23) then you clearly still have a lot of growing up to do. If you are older than that then you are clearly a man of below average intelligence. Either way, your opinion is worthless.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
CLICKY
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onedavemackay Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Does it really matter to you that you are a “bigger” club than Spurs or anyone else ? Were I a Liverpool supporter I would be proud of what you had won rather than how “big” the club might be. What does it mean anyway ?
What is how big a club is based on ? The number of supporters the size of the stadium the world wide fan base ? It’s a tedious argument.
Liverpool FC are a big name in English football because of what they’ve won and may I say the way that they won not because they are a bigger club than us or anyone else.
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Next bus to woolwich Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Oh dear I am always very sceptical when so called supporters starting using the history tag,to embellish their rather moot points.It seems to smack of that’s why I support them really,as I am really nothing but a glory hunter.You carry on Dave telling us how big your club is as it might deflect us from seeing how small your brain is!!
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
@Dave
Thanks for reminding us about your victimisation at Hillsborough. You are right in hoping that we never have our own Hillsborough. Let’s hope we don’t have our own Heysel too.
As for Huddersfield, that was over 80 years ago, and for all that, I’ll bet that Huddersfield would like to be where we are now. Come to think of it, I bet you would like to be where we are now.
Football is one of those jobs (in case you don’t know what a “job” is, a dictionary will explain it) where you are only as good as your last days work) and your work for the past three seasons has been pretty shoddy.
Over the last 18 months, I have watched your most famous fan “ifonly” spout the following. “If only we had a decent manager, we would be great again”.
Along comes Hodgson. If only we had some new players. Along comes Konschesky (for £5 mill – even DL wouldn’t have the gall for that). If only we had new owners. Along come a new set of yanks. If only we had a decent manager. Along comes Dalglish. If only we had some new players. Along comes Suarez and Carroll (£30 mill for Carroll was an even greater rip-off than the money you paid for Konchesky).
In spite of all the “ifonlys” you are starting to sink into mediocrity even though you spent more on two players than the entire cost of our first choice starting eleven.
It appears to me that the future for your supporters is one of living in the past. I can understand you r frustration, because right now, we are the future.
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Praise indeed. I thank you
February 4th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
….never trust a whining scouser, no more than those double-dealing Yorkists
Give me the red rose over the white, better still move Hadrian’s wall south to Watford Gap……….
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
No matter what a scouser says, who says it, or indeed what they speak about; they always sound like they are whining. Whine, whine, whine, whine.
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February 4th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
What a joke of an article and like you manager who has covered himself in glory over the last few weeks! Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Firstly your arguments are poor and based purely on bias so you portray an unjust argument. Like we are all racists as we had the biggest port in Europe and theirfore most of the slaves came to the U.K this was also due to our links with the triangle of trade going through the area. Secondly bringing up Hillsborough and Hesel just shows what a moron you are. Hope you get hammered at Anfield and I also hope your corrupt manager goes to jail.
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Next bus to woolwich Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Oh Michael,feeling hard done by again are you,and feeling victimised?? I think you kind of emphasise many of the points on here don’t you?? What else do you hope for,a nice shirt for Christmas,maybe some socks?Bless ya:)
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
@Michael
Actually it was your mob that brought up Hillsborough first to remind us that you are all victims. I brought up Heysel to remind you that you can also be victimisers too.
Regarding the appalling behaviour of some players, I am even more dismayed at the apologists and excuse makers for them. As long as people fail to condemn such behaviour, they are part of the problem and will never be part of the solution. I was half expecting someone to say, “Yes, but what you need to understand is that Suarez comes from Argentina and they have always had a fondness for Nazis there”.
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February 4th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Always had a soft spot for Liverpool but I think the Suarez thing was badly managed.
I have no idea whether he intended to abuse Evra but enough people of reasonable intelligence seem to think that was the net result. So then Suarez needed to apologise as no offence was meant . Shut up do his bird and we’d all have forgotten about it very quickly.
As for the football side of things I think they are still a couple of players short of where they need to be and with Commolli in charge of transfers things may not improve in the near future.
They have a tremendous defensive record at home but have struggled to score so any result will be a good one there. At full strength and on top form I’d expect us to win but anything less than our best and they’ll push us.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
I mentioned the disasters as too many of your lot can’t buy a pint of milk without doing so..
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emspurs Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
yeah, you tell ‘im H. I always knew ODM was a secret disaster-bringer-upper-on-the-way-down-the-shops.
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February 4th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Being a Yank, I find it amazing that ‘Arry could end up in jail for failing to pay roughly 30 thousand quid in taxes! I mean how much did HMRS pay for the court case and investigation into ‘Arry’s finances? Can you really go to jail for not paying income taxes in the UK? Finally- why do the scousers who come on this forum think that it’s ones moral duty to pay taxes???? It’s not like they pay taxes, is it? I thought most of them were on the dole? COYS!!!!!
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melcyid Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
the type of mentality of the people in tax offices is the same as years ago if you were caught stealing a loaf of bread for your starving family you were thrown in jail immediately before trial and then if found guilty shipped off to Australia.
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Melcyid’s in the house!
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
@gritty
1. You’ve not heard of Al Capone then/
2. Loved your comment about the scousers and moral duty.
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cyril Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
you can in the states as well, ask wesley snipe, rather more in his case of course
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February 4th, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Tiny museum the museum in Liverpool is three times the size of yours. You may have seen better results in the last 2 years but you still have a long long way before you catch up with us.YNWA
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
What you need to know is that Spurs was the first club to do a league and FA cup double, and the first British team to win a European competition. You may have won more, but we were the first. In a very real sense we paved the way for your much later success. And now we are better than you again. Shound eh?
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pete morgan Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
You ought to be careful about quoting history of your club as that is what people like you are always whinging about Liverpool doing. Mind you if you want to go that way Spurs will come a very poor second to Liverpool.
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melcyid Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Liverpool is a city.Tottenham is an area in north east London.If you are talking museums in London I think you would find numerous that cover all subjects and are mostly larger than football pitches.
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
How bad must it be for a Liverpool fan, if all they can argue about is the size of musea?
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Anyone recall the “Liverpool: European City of Culture” I believe the cultures were found to be Botulinus.
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Arf Arf. Guffaw even!
February 4th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
HH – please delete this post!
This should not be representative of any Spurs supporters’ view.
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
I’m talking about iallways @12:55
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
and 1.01
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February 4th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
HH – please don’t delete iallwaysbelieved’s post. We have some total cnuts who call themselves supporters, same as most clubs. Their stupidity, and vile nature, should both be displayed in big letters, so the rest of us can see just how horrible these people are. Hushing them up isn’t going to do any good; they’ll just fester in their bile and come back angrier. Show these cnuts to the world, and let everyone respond to these evil little buggers, so they know just how many people think they’re cnuts.
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February 4th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
2nd Bruxie.
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Second thoughts… Is there not more shame attached to having the comments remain, also giving right thinking fans the opportunity to address their thoughts to iallwaysbelieved?
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February 4th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
@ ialwaysbelieved FROUC.
Liverpool FC got it wrong about Bugs Bunny, they are a great team, not a Top Top Euro team atm but neither are Spurs. Should be a good game.
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February 4th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
eh,calm down everyone
the poo are on a good run and bellamy,suarez and carroll will be a handfull for our defence so lets hope our attack is up and firing we are going to need goals i’d say
hopefully bale continues where he left of,there is no one better on the pitch at the mo
COYS
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BrizzleSpur Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Thank god, some-one else is also living in the now and not going on about stuff that happened decades ago.
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February 4th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Oh, and Liverpudlians and Liverpool supporters alike, don’t you think the great little ‘it’s never your fault’ chant that the United fans came up with is more than a little apt? I mean, I have great respect for Liverpool, as a club and as a city; what the club did for English football (disregarding Heysel, which would have happened sooner or later anyway considering how English fans in general were at the time)was monumental, and what the city did for the UK not far behind. But gosh, you do have some victim complex.
‘It’s never your fault,
It’s never your fault,
Always the victims, it’s never your fault
Quite apt.
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February 4th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
As for us, we need to be on top form for this one. Bellamy will cause us a lot of trouble down the flanks,Stevie Me usually causes us a problem, and their defence is a hard nut to crack. So we need
a)Walker and BAE to be on their A games,
b)one of Sandro or Parker to do a tight job on Stevie (in fact ,having the two of them together wouldn’t be all that bad if we were looking for solidity)
c)Bale, Ade, VdV, Modders and (hopefully) Lennon to keep on doing what they do best.
Overall, I think we’ll sneak a narrow, hard-fought 2-1. Bale and Defoe(off the bench) for us versus Gerrard.
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February 4th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
I was going to do a run to the dump today. Went out for some black bin bags. Sold out everywhere in North London. Dammit.
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
1-1
They do make you larf!
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
@Spurs
Put the stuff in the boot of the car and dump it in Liverpool. They will probably think it’s some sort of treasure.
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February 4th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Some of A*****l’s better play today is reminiscent of Tottenham.
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pete morgan Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Well done Arsenal 7-1
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February 4th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
good one blackburn 1-1
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kojac Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
damn
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February 4th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Bugger. 2-1
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
No it’s not…
3-1
bin liners in pockets so far!
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
It’s typical of arse to pick a game that they should win by a street to protest.
They feel that they should…
…but they don’t really want to.
A bit like their transfer policy.
A little bit of atmosphere might help.
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Perhaps the protest was postponed as a result of there being more than the usual number of Japanese tourists in the home crowd. They are too polite and dignified to protest with garbage bags. May also explain the lack of atmosphere…
February 4th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
You are a disgusting piece of filth, a stain on humanity and a stain on the club, if indeed you are a Spurs fan. Probably a United fan trying to cause trouble.
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Unfortunately, the poster is one of those people who expresses an opinion, but considers it to be a fact.
I recall his posts after the Wolves game.
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Northern Spur Reply:
February 5th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
the unpredictable sequencing of posts makes it important to give an indication of to whose comment you are responding. It would be helpful to us readers if you could make it clear who has upset you. Ta !
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Northern Spur Reply:
February 5th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
I was referring to Alspur’s 1.59 post. Oops!!
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February 4th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Blackburn are absolutely terrible (and I was thinking that at 1-1, not at 5-1…). They really are awful…
…on the other hand, add Ox-Chamberlain to the short list of (three) Arse players that I’d bring to Spurs… (RVP & Vermaelen, the other two…)
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February 4th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
H, there is a comment higher up from ialwayswank that needs dealing with
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
I’ve tried.
Where is HH?
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February 4th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
FAIL
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February 4th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
HH
If Ialways said that on the terraces, I’d report him to a steward.
I’d hope that he’d be banned. It’s not a spur of the moment comment. It’s hatred.
Ban him/her!
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February 4th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
I cannot get my head around this obsession with Dalgliesh. He inherited a great side, bought in a whole pile of expensive crap, resigned citing ‘pressure’, but took the helm at Blackburn then Newcastle (pressure!!) and a role with Celtic, apart from buying the league, he pretty much failed, before buying another pile of expensive crap and they’re still not remotely close to the ‘big boy’s’ When it was only a rumour Torres was unsettled, the airwaves were full of Scousers saying “Torres ‘gets’ the club, he’ll never leave” and they’re still reliant on history to prove their worth, whereas I’d consider 1990 to be almost a generation since winning the league! And we’re the deluded one’s!
Self Pity City-how apt!
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Billy Legit Reply:
February 5th, 2012 at 12:42 am
What gets me is Dalglish’s attitude towards the media (not that i personally blame him for it), but if a foreign manager treated the British media in the obstrusive, arrogant, dismissive manner as Dalgleish does, they would be asking for him to be deported!
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Billy Legit Reply:
February 5th, 2012 at 12:43 am
Dalglish (doh!).
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Essexian76 Reply:
February 5th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Perhaps like the Goons, Liverpool will erect a statue of someone that’s kicked the club in the bollocks and returned to sorry!
February 4th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
I’m sure this sort of thing can be reported to the police. Anyone?
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Count me in.
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Billy Legit Reply:
February 5th, 2012 at 12:37 am
WTF did he post???
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Northern Spur Reply:
February 5th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Yeah, what was posted? If it has been removed fair enought, but at the very least could HH post a notification to that effect? Ta!
February 4th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Dalglish’s support of Suarez was correct. I was raised in South America and am fluent in Spanish and Portuguese. The words “negro” and in particular “negrito” is used in a friendly manner even between non Blacks. The British can’t get their heads around this. The FA and many Brits ignored cultural differences and destroyed Suarez’s reputation and in the process punished him and the club severely.
I am Black and was at the LFC/Man-U game. I booed Evra using him as a conduit to protest against the FA’s crude decision.
Oh, and Suarez’s grandfather is Black.
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
You are missing the point. Perhaps deliberately. You can’t use language like that, here. We are not in Uruguay. If you tell someone that you aren’t speaking to them because they are black, the law of this land says you are being racist.
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
You mention destroying Suarez reputation:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8937652/Luis-Suarez-career-flashpoints-of-Liverpool-striker.html
Do you think any of this may have helped?
Do yourself a favour. Have a word…
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Not in this country.
And not in Holland where Suarez played for a few years.
You abide by the local rules.
Don’t give us the usual crap of not being offended.
I was offended. Therefore there is an issue.
You assuming I’m white?
Did you boo Evra because he is black? Probably not.
However you did racism a favour.
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Essexian76 Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
“The British can’t get their heads around this” WTF does that mean? The incident happened in Britain, under British law and British rules, I know Liverpool considers itself outside the law,but c’mon, that’s a lame excuse, but I guess that’s never worried Scouser’s before. like I said Self Pity City-it’s never your fault
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melcyid Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Are you Herbie the talking volkswagen beetle?
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 5:56 pm
I hope you fall into a threshing machine.
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February 4th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
Oh Kevin.
Have you not seen the reaction to “iallwaysbelieved”?
It’s difficult to comprehend that anyone still believes that story, never mind regugitating it.
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February 4th, 2012 at 2:59 pm
You’re a complete and utter idiot.
Who bought you a computer and an e-mail address?
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February 4th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Twat. Chip on your shoulder. Have you gone round liverpool recently to view the Victorian buildings? Compare that to where your crap hole stadium is!
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Yep.
Watching kids letting dogs crap in pedestrian shopping centres and looking at the local architecture.
My perception of Liverpool last week.
Problem was – it wasn’t a perception.
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Bruxie:
After having read that, I now regard you as a victim. My sympathies. I would try and take up a collection for you in Dipperland, but the chances are the money would be nicked by the locals.
Get well soon
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
I thoughty he was being sarky in an ‘I’m your mate’, sort of way.
Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
As usual SOID you are spouting the “too many people on here believe their opinion is fact” mantra.
You are still the condescending, patronising and arrogant twit that I have come to know and dislike.
Keep it up.
And I challenge you to not begin a post with….
“You really are a pathetic little person…”
Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Or have I read that all wrong..?
Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Then I apologise.
SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Not too sure where that came from, but in case you did get it all wrong, I was not making you the butt of my joke – it was a dig at Liverpool.
Regarding the mantra, I actually said he (Iallwaysbelived) “… is one of those people who expresses an opinion, but considers it to be a fact”.
SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
For the avoidance of doubt, I am not looking to prolong this and my last post crossed over your apology.
The apology was very graceful of you, and I have said in the past something to the effect that I bear no grudges when people have a go at me on here. If you had not apologised, I would have taken the view that tomorrow is another day, and would not have pursued the matter, but the fact that you did raise my opinion of you, not that I had a poor one of you to start with.
Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
And you’ve said it to others once or twice.
But…I accept that you were also having a dig at Liverpool.
Being called a victim on a blog post calling scousers “victims” wasn’t to my liking, though.
I’ll shake on it.
SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Done.
Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Good.
February 4th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
I felt a little uncomfortable.
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February 4th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Our adopted anthems
most bindippers think that You’ll never walk alone was originally by Gerry and the pace makers.It was Rogers and Hammerstien and it was about a fake man in a broadway musical that was shot and killed in a robbery.
whereas Tottenhams Glory glory Hallelujah ,was written about a real man John Brown that gave his life in the fight against slavery that predated the American civil war.
IRONIC!
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
BIOYC! I know- COYS! I know, but IRONIC! I don’t.
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melcyid Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
nothing to do with wet spam.
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February 4th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
I suppose all the goons that went to the game ready to protest will go home and rehang the curtains!
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
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February 4th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
HH must still be down the laundryette.
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Pub, more like.
There again – the site seems to be self regulating at the moment!
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
I was actually selling small arms to schoolchildren.
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
School children have already got small arms. Haven’t they?
Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
That’s alright then.
I hope you gave the seven year old the beretta.
I cannot stand these arms dealers who give guns which kids cannot use.
When you get mugged – you need to know it’s being done by a well supplied, professional organisation.
Billy Legit Reply:
February 5th, 2012 at 12:48 am
Oi, you nicking my trade?
I don’t want to have to send the fella’s round, H-H, but back off!!!
February 4th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Suarez is an idiot. Any educated and un-biased individual can easily see that.
Liverpool, despite having a fan base that largely dwell on past achievements, pose a threat to our current campaign.
A loss at Anfield would really damage our reputation and title aspirations. I’m not saying we’re in with a shout this season, but I believe that this is our opportunity to solidify ourselves at the top.
By the end of the season we’ll know wether our winning ways is a trend that will continue long after. or wether we join the merry-go-round of clubs that can’t find their footing.
The return of Suarez, coupled with the presence of Bellamy and co. Will be a stern test for our full backs, and I’m anxious to see how well Walker and BAE can deal with that.
The impending absence of Defoe, Ade and Lennon is making me cringe a bit, as it looks as if Saha will be waddling on out with possibly VDV on the right? (FML).
This is a hard game to predict, we have Bently back, so we have some-one who can hit a decent dead ball… if he’s fit?
I can see Bale having a tough one, despite his recent form. Modric too, they’re not going to make the same mistake twice.
It’ll be one of those games where Parker and Sandro’s contributions really count as we absorb attack after attack.
I think we may just pinch it, 0-1 Spurs.
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
OMG.
You mention Bentley.
Forget it.
Saha isn’t too shabby. I’ve a feeling his pleasure and enthusiasm will be better than anything Pav had.
By Monday, you’d be surprised at who is deemed fit.
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BrizzleSpur Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Yes I did.
He’s in the squad.
It wasn’t too long ago that fellow spurs fans were whinging about a lack of decent corners and free kicks. I know the bloke isn’t our first choice, a blind deaf disabled monkey knows that by now.
But he’s in the squad, and were minus a right sided midfielder.
VdV looked just as useless as anyone out on that right hand side, so I don’t see the harm in giving him a run out instead.
It’s not ideal, but it’s a tactical option. If we could convert more dead ball chances into goals then maybe we could add another dimension to those frustrating stalemates.
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
We play with pace.
Bentley has none.
£15m up the swanee.
pete morgan Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Dream on
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BrizzleSpur Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Yes we do.
And no he doesn’t lol.
But I don’t believe we’re gonna turn up, and run the game as we did at WHL.
Im getting the feeling that your more anti-Bently than pro spurs so I’ll stop flogging a dead horse.
For the record though, we have a squad larger than our ‘ideal’ eleven, and we’re going to need it. Spurs either find a strategy to get the best out of him or they pay him to keep the bench warm.
I’d prefer the former.
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Essexian76 Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
It’s easy to forget that Bentley’s form and input was actually one of the positive factors behind us getting into the CL when Lennon was out long term.
Alright, he buggered up Harry’s suit, but he still played a massive part all the same.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
now you have the reaction you want, tell us how your a season ticket holder and go to every game and have a right to say what you want.
not in my name you dont you shithead
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calebray Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
that was a reply to that cad and bounder above all you fine fellows who was spouting stupid moronic regurgitated hate, many apologies
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Who?
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calebray Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:29 pm
fair play, who indeed?
seems to have vacated the building.
Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Good!
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February 4th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
To be honest Peanut looks like an Everton player. He’s definitely better suited there.
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February 4th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Liverpool are at the same level as Stoke now, that is how far the mighty have fallen. They blame every man and his dog for beieng yesterdays news, as for Tottenham being a kip. Anfield is the only place I seen a site with “no boiler fitted here” in the window of the job. Somes the place and its people up perfectly, thieving pikey scum bags are your Liverpool fans as a whole
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February 4th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
After Harry’s “I’m too stupid to be guilty” defence this week, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the Liverpool fan accused of making racist gestures tries something similar.
“I’m not racist, I just love Disney’s Jungle Book. I’ve always considered myself the king of the swingers, and was just paying tribute to king Louie like. Your Honour”
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February 4th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
@HH
I’ve been wary about saying this in case I might be misunderstood, but here goes anyway.
I want to congratulate you on not being “wishy washy” and not using “the ‘n’ word” as a substitute in your blog. It’s not that I have any great love for the word you actually used. To me, whenever I hear it, it is usually being spouted by an oaf, who comes from a long line of oafs and does nothing for his credibility amongst thinking people.
My praise is because we all seem to be terrified of the Thought Police, that even when there is no malice intended, we still have to refer to it in code. The real problem is not the word itself, but those who defend the users of the word as being “harmless”.
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Patti Smith says it all.
Agreed.
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
I meant to post this for Patti Smith.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GC4ByJCbh8
Outstanding.
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
I don’t suppose that would get airtime on the BBC nowadays.
Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Appreciated. Defenders of Suarez have bent over backwards to cloud what is a very simple issue.
The PR disaster LFC managed to salvage and nurture from what was a dull on pitch incident is quite possibly unparalleled.
To top this fiasco, next we will have John Terry telling the CPS that he was only talking to Ferdinand like he saw on a Bodycount music video.
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notsohotspurs Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
I only hear the n word in rap songs……..
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Billy Legit Reply:
February 5th, 2012 at 12:55 am
…….where it isn’t used as a term of endearment, but as a negative ‘piss-take’ term of abuse- in some instances as a rallying cry…….. the same way we use the term ‘Yid Army’.
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February 4th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
who is pete organ?
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
I too thought the letter m was superfluous!
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melcyid Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
I think he has an Irish cuz Peter O’Toole
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 11:51 pm
I think they are members of the same club.
February 4th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
The comments that needed to go have gone.
May I add that such remarks always get binned
Whilst I can appreciate upset might be caused, beyond a swear filter which can be really fcuking easy to beat, the other alternative is the blog being manned 24hrs which isn’t going to happen.
I have even received emails on the comments today. Can I assure you all of two absolute certainties?
1. I will always remove nasty comments once I have actually had the opportunity to view them and
2. Emailing me on a comment is your business – it doesn’t speed up the process at all, whatsoever, not in the slightest – but if it makes you feel better, don’t let me stop you.
But don’t email me two, three times. You’re not shouting at a partially deaf person, you’re clogging up an inbox to no good purpose.
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Don’t worry, HH.
All we can ask is that inappropriate comments are dealt with as soon as you can.
In the meantime there is a sufficient level of decency on here to put down any inappropriate posts.
Thanks for the post!
I still think you were in the pub.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
I thought there was an extraordinary amount of booze kicking about for it to be a public library
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notsohotspurs Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
does your inbox run on the same cheese as your blog ?
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
It’s less cheesey.
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February 4th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
I’ve got a labrador or two who know the difference between a library and a pub.
I never ever come home well-read.
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Bruxie Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Pub………lic library.
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February 4th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
So. The individuals whose nasty comments are no longer with us. But they were not posted in vain.
No. They have been passed onto the companies that provide their Internet connection.
I take no delight in this as it is time consuming and above all, a tedious process.
Perhaps a moment for hard hitting Internet warrior lords to ponder the wisdom of being, well… so thoughtless.
When you sign up to ‘whoever’ you sign a Terms & Conditions. There is stuff in really small print you agree not to do.
To the two imbeciles posting as ialwaysbelieved and kevtheyid… lets hope you get put on blacklist somewhere. I am pretty sure that there are lots of ‘em.
Oh yes. Enjoy your weekend.
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Small point.. I think it was kevtheyid, not kevtherev. I think kevterev is alright.
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Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Pretty sure KevtheRev is coolio.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 7:23 pm
You are spot on. Kev the Rev is indeed a decent guy.
At the risk of whining like a Scouse ponce (and not at Spurstacus, of course), perhaps this is a good example of letting the blog run at its own speed so considered action might be taken.
My apologies and I’ll adjust my previous comment. Well pointed out Spurstacus. Cheers mate.
melcyid Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
kevtherev
Spurstacus Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Peace and love.
chiversmetimbers Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
best way to get away with being an sick, evil odious troll is to use a public computer at the library or something…..er, or so I’m told…
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February 4th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Oh bollocks what did I miss?
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KevtheRev Reply:
February 4th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
You missed the KevtheRev love in…. Thanks guys love you all too!
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Billy Legit Reply:
February 5th, 2012 at 12:58 am
………get a room!!!!
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February 4th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
And you’re definitely not Kevtheyid who no one seems to love?!
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February 4th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Just thinking about the way that Liverpool handled the Suarez case, and more recently, the way City handled the Ballotelli stamping incident, I am having trouble recalling any recent incidents where players were punished by the club (rather than being excused by the club) prior to the authorities stepping in if the incident was not an internal matter.
Yes, the club has acted when it’s been a case of a training ground punch-up, but when it’s been an external matter such Ballotelli stamping on PNB, there is no condemnation, but rather, a rush to point the blame elsewhere (Webb). I can only think of one case where the club acted first, and that was in the case of Cantona who was bound to be taken to task by the FA.
I said earlier when alluding to HH’s use of the word “nigger”, “The real problem is not the word itself, but those who defend the users of the word as being “harmless”. Right on cue, comes none other than Joey Barton, suggesting that Terryble is the victim of a clampdown on free speech. Birds of a feather and all that.
I saw the tackle by BAE in the Wigan game, and my impression was that it was both clumsy and dangerous, and he was lucky not to get sent off. The next time I read this blog, and the best anyone has to say about it, is that he was lucky to get away with that. Compare that to the Mancs who came on here to laugh about Ballotelli. There was of course one bloke who did apologise, but the majority thought it was something to laugh about.
It’s not a pleasant thing to think about, but I remember a time when footballers were rather heroic figures and apart from curfew breaking, most of them were exemplary people to look up to and admire. Now if you just take the England squad, most of them are people that I would not want living next door to me. I remember when Tony Parks was sacked for drink driving and Pleat for Kerb crawling. I do not want to portray us as being strict as an Ayatollah, because I believe in both cases, it wasn’t their first offence.
We are seeing a new and even more undesirable trend of clubs suggesting that players are victims when the are quite rightly punished, and worse still, are those fans who applaud these players and seem to regard them as martyrs. As I suggested, it is the people who support them, whether they be fan or club who are the real problem.
The saddest thing about this, is that I cannot see it getting any better.
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February 5th, 2012 at 12:34 am
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Sorry if this has already been linked, just cracks me up; http://www.offthepost.info/blog/2012/02/sandro-shows-off-his-karate-moves/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+offthepost%2FTLAa+%28Off+The+Post%29
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Billy Legit Reply:
February 5th, 2012 at 1:02 am
You should be sorry, it was posted (what seems) yonks ago, on this very blog
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February 5th, 2012 at 1:39 am
I agree with your sentiments (paragraphs 3-5) unanimously, H-H, but the reference to slavery, even though factual, isn’t really relevant given that the Thames was a popular conduit for the import/export of slaves during the same period.
On a political level i sympathise with the amount of animosity Mersesiders have towards the ‘Establishmnet’ and one particular indivdual durint the 1980′s, but was Merseyside the only region of the country to be decimated by Thatcherite-Corporatist economic policies during that time?
As far as Hillsborough is concerned, the events of that day and the subsequent cover-up are nothing short of a national disgrace. To this day, i and other member’s of my famlily have never bought or read a particular rag, that some may assume to be a ‘national instition’, to this day, and one that i will not even demean your blog by mentioning.
I had two older cousins who were at Hillsborough during the semi-final versus Wolves in 1981………1989 could have been us in 1981.
In short i think the scousers have a lot to bitch about, but they are not the only one’s. They seem to have taken the ‘woe is me’ argument, at times , to ridiculous levels.
The Suarez incident being a case in point.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 5th, 2012 at 5:09 am
Woctha,
I mentioned slavery to throw some perspective into the equation. The deaths at the two football disasters were truly horrible, but having lived up there for about 2 years far too many Scousers will tell you it’s still a city in mourning.
Too many of them are emotionally over needy and wanting something to cling on to, as if this validates this for them.
Liverpool outdid virtually every other city in the country when it came to trading human beings. Yet if you go down to the quay it’s all nice bars and restaurants all doing a brisk trade. Where’s the equivalent of the Sun being sold with the pile of papers upside down?
I was on a bus up there, two men who had been to school together who had clearly not seen each other for an age were catching up.
‘Your brother told me you was working for – insert name of company’
‘They let me go last year’
‘Redundant like?’
‘Fired me’
‘Oh, sorry’
‘Same thing mate at the end of the day, nobody gives you a job for life anymore.’
These men were in their forties! And yet talking like the Likely Lads.
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February 5th, 2012 at 5:32 am
mornin H
scallys eh always good for a merry quip.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 5th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Everyone’s a winner
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