Posted on Wednesday, 1st February 2012 by Harry Hotspur
Good afternoon.
You’d think all being part of the same tribe, that Tottingham fans as kindred spirits would be all get on famously. This is the supposition of a naive child. The idea you put ‘x’ number of people in a room who all like cheese then making the bizarre assertion that they will share other commonalities.
I spell this out before I am accused of an irrational contempt for those some would call, ‘fellow fans’. Fans yes, but the idea that the common love of Spurs is some sort of mystical egg capable of binding people who are total strangers is farcical.
So that’s the perspective I give you in order to understand my utter boredom with the behaviour of too many home fans.
It seems that the pretty insufferable arrogance has increased the better we’ve played. Watching the game last night from home (‘cos you ain’t a proper fan are u aitch?’) it was evident that the first goal was in some quarters, ‘owed’, the second ‘due’ and from then on in the team were largely a bunch of wasters for failing to bury Martinez’ gang in an avalanche of goals.
So what’s my beef then? Wanting to win by a cricket score? No, believe it or don’t I can cope with that. It’s the sneering, swearing and snarling at the lads who are by and large playing some of our most exceptional football I’ve witnessed in my lifetime that grates.
Modric playing total football. Bale looking like a demi god, PNB looking like the sort of chap had he been in the trenches – the Great War would have been over in about three quarters of an hour. But still the know it alls groan.
Internet for whining, going to games for cheering. Hardly complex, is it?
Forget head cams on stewards. I’d take it one step further. Identify the loud mouth know it alls who behave as if they own the place and I’d serve temporary bans them. What’s the charge? Oh I don’t know, being dull in a built up area, wasting a seat that someone who wanted to be there would have been grateful of?
Anyone who has been to away games knows exactly what I’m talking about.
I’ve had reason to make contact with a good number of overseas supporters of late. Christ, I’m still working through the pile and my apologies if we haven’t spoken yet, we absolutely will. But I tell you this. There are not only some extremely likable but perhaps even exceptional folk out there whos passion and appreciation is so refreshing it leaves me buoyed beyond belief.
So viva the redevelopment of The Lane. A cheer for the bulldozers and a chinking of glasses to celebrate the marginalisation of these anti fans wasting tickets and wasting our time. Watching great football is a privilege not debt that THFC suddenly owe you once you buy a ticket from them. If you can’t cope with that, please give your ticket up to someone who can.
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February 1st, 2012 at 12:55 pm
It has always been like that at the lane except European Wednesday nights.
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YidoTilliDie Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 2:13 pm
What are you both talking about?!? The atmosphere has at times admittedly been a little flat this season, owing to greater expectation but last night I thought it was superb.
The support for ‘Arry was actually deafening and made it into all the newspaper reports. It was a freezing cold night yet after every break in play the fans would sing individual chants to the players (all of which were acknowledged and appreciated). There was even some decent banter with the 12 or so Wigan fans who made it.
This isn’t Real Madrid, it’s Wigan. They were awful and we expected to beat them. We weren’t all foaming and screaming support like rabid dogs but the atmosphere was positive and relaxed. Even when we went a goal down there was good support. The only ‘aggro’ was from a desire for us to push forward more and stop passing it along the back line. We played some phenomenal football last night and you cant blame the fans for wanting to see more of it.
‘He’ll pay when he wants, he’ll pay when he waaaaants, Harry Redknapp, he’ll pay when he wants’
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YidoTilliDie Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Interesting picture randomly attached to my profile. Mrs Hotspur by any chance?
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Caesar Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Your right fella atmosphere was good last night. Kinda see what hh is on about regarding expecting the goals but that didn’t translate into a poor atmosphere by any means.
HH has run a couple of posts claiming this now and I can’t really see (or hear) why.
Gazza's Knee Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Spot on, from what I heard everyone was behind the team and to be fair we did go a bit flat early second half but soon picked it up. Everyone was cheering the players and as you mention Redknapp got a rousing backing.
I find it remarkable for someone to base a thread on a blog about something they really have no knowledge of as they were not there.
What HH is saying is real fans stay at home and pick holes out of a decent performance,blame the crowd for ????? (your guess is as good as mine) and the plastic fans sit/stand in the stands week in week out. What utter crap!
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:35 pm
What HH is saying is written above. Stick to speaking for yourself, dear.
The new stadium will thankfully dilute the frequently snide and arrogant minority that kill the atmosphere probably – as they do just about everywhere they go. It’ll be a place to celebrate football and not to lurk about brabing everyone as ‘sh*t’.
Happy days.
February 1st, 2012 at 1:06 pm
spot on H, far too many championship manager ‘experts’ who have read way too many headlines. Realism isn’t a word they know the meaning of.
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Pseudo-hereditary tickets don’t help either…I’m not going next season, but I’ll keep it in my name and sub it to my friend/relative/dogsdadsowner, who decides after a season to sub it to their friend/relative/catsmumsowner, etc. This stops people getting the tickets who actually really want to be there week after week.
Season tickets should be for the holder (picture on ticket?), or if they can’t go, the seat becomes available for sale. More of a season seat reservation with sale or return
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KayBee Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 1:17 pm
I’d object strongly to that, as it would cease my run of free games!
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John White Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Season Tickets are already non-transferable, so anyone caught doing what you apparently plan to runs the risk of losing their ticket if caught. Suggesting that extra precautions should be taken by the Club to stop you doing what you plan to, smacks of hypocrisy. However, if, when you refer to I, and my, you actually mean someone else, then you appear to have psychological problems. You also appear to think that the person or persons to whom the tickets are subbed, are prepared to pay money for something they don’t want to use, which doesn’t make sense, any more than the idea of buying a season ticket and allowing others to use it regularly for free makes sense. If, however , you are merely saying that when someone no longer needs his or her season ticket, they should return it to the Club, then I agree with you. That way those higher up the queue get the offer of the season tickets first, which is as it should be. First come first served.
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Essexian76 Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
In reality John, I know many people who own three or four season tickets and of our regular crowd of 20 there are always and often many ‘new’ faces, who attend in absentia. These tickets are handed down and have been for generations. You know it, I know it and the club know it….and I’ve done it myself, what ticket holder hasn’t?
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:13 pm
I’m all posh, like, innit. And, as such, I sit in the West Upper. There’s a bloke sits near me that enjoys judicious (not to mention stentorian) usage of the C word all through a match, aimed at any of our players that don’t meet his lofty ideals.
Never been so much as approached by a steward. Least, not while I’ve been around. Can’t work it out.
The c***.
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Essexian76 Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Since frequenting your superb site, I have been told that my view of being supportive of the club and it’s intentions would be better served on other sites such as the official Spurs site.why?, simply because I don’t snipe at anything deemed to be ‘establishment’ or despite my own views and personal dislike of HR, I can actually see and approve what he’s done for the team. Or is it because I don’t have a fixation of his or Modric’s facial features? All I know is my passion for the club has never wavered and I’ll continue to be supportive of it regardless of where it is in the league or even where about it plays it’s football!. If I were sat alongside a ‘fan’ who continually bitched and berated the club as many on here do, I really don’t think my temper would hold out for very long to be honest. We’re in the best shape and playing the best football I’ve witnessed for an awfully long time, and yet you’d think we were in the same boat as Wolves. If it lasts..great, if it doesn’t so what, been there, still here, so nothing new tomorrows Thursday and I’ll still be a Yiddo!
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Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Now Sir Ian would you actually admonish the tattooed gent screaming obsceneties at BAE or would you join with him ? Methinks a few shandies and you`d be best buddies and when VDV scores it
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Essexian76 Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Well, last night Benny was being Benny-and dammit I admit, I gave my loudest tut-ever!
Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Was that a foul mouthed tut ? When Benny turns sideways as the player attempts to cross a ball it`s always risky but he continues to do it. Like the guy but he needs to stop that and get a haircut. Just Saying.
Essexian76 Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:12 pm
Raz, I just lurve the guy, warts,afro an’ all, he’s a mental case right enough and does some strange things an’shit, but would I change him, nah, does he drive me crazy?-of course!
Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Yes he`s magic but a liability at times. How many shirts do you see with Benito Assou-Ekotto on them, i`ve only ever seen 3.
February 1st, 2012 at 1:15 pm
I have to admit I’m guilty of some of the comments above but for good reason I believe. I happen to go to both home and away games and have done for many years so I know what it was like when we were ‘not so good shall we say’. I applaud when we are great and admit that I moan a bit when we’re not. The reason for this is that I truly believe that we are good enough to win the title but we have no right to just turn up, dilly dally and roll over anyone that shows up. Anyone who goes will know what I mean, lately we’ve become quite ‘cocky’ which I dont like. Show respect, be professional and give it your best shot because we may never get this chance again. Oh and by the way, I’d love to meet this ‘saint’ of a fan who spends all game cheering, clapping, praising everyone all game every game. I’m pretty sure that person does not exist!
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Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 3:30 pm
HH has been known to stir the pot on this one, go to a few games before criticising the true supporters who pay big money to watch their beloved club. Anyone can criticise but it does not make them better just pathetic. Supporters support financially, others just talk.
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Essexian76 Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:09 pm
It doe’s pee me off when some moan about not getting a decent web link (oversea’s supporters not included in this rant)and purport to be ‘supporting’ the club, when many of us who actually pay for the privilege to attend games have a fuck off great big pole blocking our view and who donate their time and effort, yet are perceived to be ‘superior’, surely they’re the one’s who’ve earn t the right to moan, yet seemingly they’re the one’s that moan the least!!!!!
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Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:19 pm
You can please some of the people some of the time but you can`t please Tossers, not that anyone would care to try.
Howard Pyne Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Razspur, I was regular during the 80′s and 90′s frequenting ‘The Cage’ on the Shelf. Now I live abroad; am I not classed in this modern day of double speak a true supporter anymore? Or am I relegated to being a follower? You or anyone else have no claims to dilute the word based on only financial reasons. Each person who takes the Cockrel to their hearts, even if they lived on Mars are a benefit to the club.
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Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:05 pm
You are now a fan and no longer a supporter, that does not demean your loyalty, you have paid your dues.
Essexian76 Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:23 pm
I think the question you should ask yourself is how would you as a season ticket holder or regular attendee, look upon those that don’t attend games for no other reason than an inability to raise their backsides from off the couch or opt to spend their cash on things other than going to games-yet somehow still convince themselves they have a voice, where the reality is if no internet existed-neither would they!
Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Missing you already Howard.
Howard Pyne Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
I suppose donating to the THFCF is no longer validation to be a supporter. Well enjoy your loyalty to this blog be it as a fan or supporter if you financially support it. I for one wont be back.
Essexian76 Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Oh well,so you asked yourself the question,and sacked yourself-are you Japanese? Bushido rules KO!
Deano Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Completely Agree wirh Essex
My choice is to pay money week in / week out to watch Spurs and not do anything else.
If you are abroard of course you cant come to the games. If you take your son/ daughter to PLAY football on saturday then of course you cant come to WHL.
I dislike those who chose not to attend at all yet have the ability too have a go at those who go through the shit cold nights in watford etc.
Therefore if Aaron Lennon is putting in his 6th awful cross of the game or yet another short pass to Walker I am completely entitled to rant.
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Its the same at Old Trafford. Conceed a goal and then the ants start getting restless. Football at the lane is the best it’s been for years and how I admire the little croat(Id pay 60 mil). Fans should be not so fickle and enjoy the pleasures of the stage that is the football pitch. We get things so easy today.
Anyway best of luck and see you in a few weeks.
RD
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:18 pm
You really dont understand. The reason why fans and they are fans who probably have been a lot longer at it than you have the fear that Spurs will throw it away as is their want. The 2nd half allowed the opposition to attack and create chance after chance thus creating some panic amongst the fans – seeing is believing.
The psychology of the game determines to the utmost the outcome, and negative play when one is winning does not create a hunger with style. As soon as they began attacking again then the Spurs that are loved showed intelligence.
Football is about being intelligent which means having forsight resulting in passing to beat the other team and not playing the game around your 18yd box encouraging defeat.
To speak of bans for being disappointed and fearing your team is going to go under shows a lack of passion and authoritarianism that is not part of White Hart Lane.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 1:26 pm
You’re an idiot.
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
If there’s one thing that annoys and puzzles me at the same time is when a move breaks down or a pass is intercepted you can hear the loud,audible gasp of despair from the crowd.I know we’re all disappointed but does it have to be that loud,I think it almost shows us up to be whiners,and not properly supporting the team.I am not sure it’s that noticeable at other grounds when this happens,as it surely does.
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Billy Legit Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 2:30 pm
The Degenerates?
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Billy Legit Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Sorry, i meant The Emirates?
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Ellen Degenerates?
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Just woken up from a horrible nightmare. I dreamed that we let 4 first teamers go, and signed, wait for it… Louis Saha and some bloke called Ryan ‘Half’ Nelsen. Brrr ‘orrible.
So, who’d we really get then?
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Total rubbish. Should’ve been another 9-1 and the players, management, ballboys and “beef drink” vendors should all hang their heads in shame. Frankly, I think us fans are owed personally written letters of apology from all of them. Bastards…
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Hahaha. Do call again, madam.
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Sometimes agree with you sometimes I dont. Keeping an even keel I decide to not make comment, tis your blog and you can say pretty much what you like.
However I have to make comment on this, are you ready?
I agree.
Ive posted this before, not sure here or somewher else but I was ejected from WHL for being aggresive to a guy who continually swore and slaged off about everyone he could.
The injustice I cried……, yet I was not a season ticket holder like him and his gang of twats so he sat happily calling me a wanker as I was escorted out of WHL.
It was like he was untouchable? maybe these bullies are seen as such by all and the people there to protect are as scared as everyone else.?
He was right in calling me a wanker though.
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KayBee Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Sounds like the same guy I was bitching about, in fairness.
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Essexian76 Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 1:47 pm
My first season ticket was in the west stand (1975), after only a few games, I hated it so much, I used to drop into the enclosure and stand with my mates because of the continual moaning and groaning. My advice is to swap to the East stand and enjoy the atmosphere without the ‘peel me a grape’ brigade of parasites grinding you down.
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Billy Legit Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Yep, the old ‘shelf’ is the place to be
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Essexian76 Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 3:01 pm
In the olden day’s before the refurb (groan), my seat was directly behind the television gantry, free sandwiches and the occasional swig of Brian Moore’s finest flask contents. One night when they had the single one camera job for News at Ten, the guy asked who me scored, so I gave him my own name and rushed home to see if he’d fallen for it, missed the bongs at the end, so I never knew, but the East stand is far better and the shelf side was better still after moving up there in the early 80′s
Billy Legit Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:58 am
Not more whiskypiss, Ian?
Essexian76 Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Brian Moore, on the piss?, nah, strong coffee and a great chat, super bloke and a top, top, mikeman
February 1st, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Oh how I agree with this article. Although not a season ticket holder I try to get down the Lane as many times a season as I can, and am a passionate lifelong 50+ years fan. I loathe and abhor some of the mindless morons that sit alongside me sledging their own players. Whilst I understand that if a person has paid good money for a ticket, it’s his/her right to be vocally critical, that doesn’t mean they have to loudly moan and whine the whole 90 minutes long.
If the team are not playing well, the mob doesn’t seem to realise that ‘come on you Spurs’ is better than ‘Oi playersname, you’re not fit to where the shirt you F-in t*sser’. Rarely have I experienced that sort of vile outpouring getting a positive response.
This season, with the way we are playing, it has, amazingly, got worse. As H says, the expectation level seems to have risen to new heights and the first misplaced pass or lost tackle is met with howls of anguish and abuse from the terraces.
Not sure if there’s an answer to this, but any ideas gratefully considered and if any good, please send to the Spurs management.
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Sean Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Took my son to the lane against Wolves last year….he couldnt understand why grown men were shouting bad things about the players. Not long after that he lost interest.
I dont blame him.
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Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 3:36 pm
You should have taken him to Ballet Class.
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Sean Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Showing mob mentality Razspur. Tosser.
Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Just stating a fact, no need for name calling, shows lack taste, note i don`t reciprocate.
KlinsiKlinik Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Sean,
You should take them to Fulham, mine are 9 & 7 and you get a far better crowd in the back of the Johnny Haynes stand (old codgers of 60+ who have manners and respectful demeanour)where they can stand and see all the action withour annoying anyone and it only costs £ 30 a year to get plenty of tickets…recently took them to see F v Charlton where it cost just £ 1 for each of them and £ 20 for me…great game, atmosphere and result all round..check it out…even the girls look a lot better !!!
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Billy Legit Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 12:13 am
How dare you!!!
Spurs birds are the best in the land
Razspur Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 12:19 am
Great idea, take foul mouthed Sean and his family to fulham where he can spout obscenaties to the pensioners in the JH stand. Judgeing by your comments you must be a pretty experienced cottager, he would really feel at home with you lot.
Essexian76 Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
So take your family to where it’s cheap?, sure that makes sense, let’s all go to Iceland, the foods crap, but it’s cheap!
February 1st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
where can I buy a set of arry’s pajamas?
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 2:10 pm
I’m on it. What are you, 42 short?
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melcyid Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 3:44 pm
thats pretty close.
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Dunno about home fans specifically, it’s people in general that suck. No surprise you get 35,000 of them in one place and a good number start acting like bellends.
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:46 pm
I just heard that Arry wrote down a list of players he really wanted and, oh wait a minute I think I see why it all went wrong.
Is it not illegal to put that picture up HH ?? It could sway a jury. Innoncent until they prove what really happened.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 1:48 pm
If they prove he owns a dog and would be good in panto, I can claim a genuine exclusive.
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Essexian76 Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 1:48 pm
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John Kelsey-Fry QC Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
No…………
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Dog Terry looks like CRYSTAL WARREN with a syrup,or is he really CRYSTAL WARREN
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:47 pm
These would be the same wrong ‘uns who loudly sang their support for the manager, used an injury break to sing to individual players and who raised their voices in song when the second half malaise set in? Not perfect, granted, but a damn sight better than the majority of grounds.
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:49 pm
harry shut the mouth you the lie. you do always the moan the tottenham and we the 3! now you say the other one the moning just shut the mouth idiot you prick make
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E4_Yid Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 1:56 pm
I think you accidentally your comment.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 1:57 pm
fakinel make you mate me wanta strongle you lemon boss you moning make this page don come back so that always lies on other one.
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LosLorenzo Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Hey! You’ve been practicing!
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Gilzeanwasgod Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 2:15 pm
I would like to be associated with the sentiments expressed by the previous poster.
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Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:14 pm
he the effin make winge up ure gooner me the strongle all the haringay harry. stop the piss tawk many the grate Tottingsham players we ar the pople. GITS (Get into them Spurs).
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Steve Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Which brain cell is being used today? Obviously not the spelling one.
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Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:44 pm
If someone gave you a brain cell as a birthday present it would be very lonely.
LosLorenzo Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Steve make you make me the so angry make! Fakinel you moning but the don get what happens rite in front of you make I strongle you
seattlespursguy Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Clearly Mus is Harry R!!!!
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Agree entirely with the sentiment of the post, but actually reckon abuse towards our own players at certain away games this season has matched or exceeded that dished out at home matches. Yes, Adebayor was shocking against Watford, but the “colourful” abuse he received from sections of our away support was both tedious and was only ever likely to be counter-productive. Probably wearing rose-tinted glasses, but I swear the match-day atmosphere was more enjoyable when we were sh*te!
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Price of admission allows you to say whatever you want, barring any racial or any other discriminatory remarks.
Whatever your view on people who conduct themselves like this, they haven’t done anything wrong except royally irritate everyone around them.
I’ve sat in the Paxton end for many years now and not heard any over the top abuse. Players have to accept that as we play better, expectations get higher. If anything it should spur them on to go that extra yard when they hear one loud voice shouting random abuse.
Note on the transfer window, I thought Arry said we would only sign quality players to improve the squad? Maybe his philosophy is if he’s going down, he’s gunna take us with him.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
If anything it should spur them on to go that extra yard when they hear one loud voice shouting random abuse.
Well said.
I think screaming ‘random’ abuse at people is by far the best method to encourage/motivate people.
If you recall the use of galley slaves it was a scientific fact the harder you whipped them the harder they rowed.
Then when the shiftless ones among them died, they were replaced by men who really wanted to row.
So you make an excellent point.
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ollyparklane Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Afternoon all… for those that thought, as some have posted here that Wigan ‘created wave after wave of chances’, did they fuck. We were never in any danger of losing that game last night. Could have scored 8 or 9 but we didn’t and it doesn’t matter. The glass half empty crew get on player’s backs far too easy. During the Wolves game, the moaning from behind in Block 33 was ridiculous, as if Gooner Graham was back in charge. Tsk…
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seattlespursguy Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Boo until they play good; boo some sense into them.
February 1st, 2012 at 1:59 pm
if you watch Big Brother , Geordie Shore , Towie or any of dozens or other reality shows it is obvious the country is over run with foul mouthed halfwits – unfortunately some of them also support Spurs – but luckily not as many as support Chelsea or Arsenal
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Billy Legit Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 2:37 pm
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February 1st, 2012 at 2:47 pm
I thought we were terrible in the second half yesterday – thankfully Wigan are sitting at the bottom of the table for a reason.
Weirdly most of my criticism (some of which I even shouted out loud) was for Harry and Bale. VDV went off and we just seemed to lose all shape in midfield, nobody seemed to want to go forward to support Ade. Bale our only player who can really play wide and beat a man seemed intent on doing the opposite and just sat inside. Even Modric shouted at Bale a few times to tell him to get out wide! (once just before he scored his second, from the left!). It was a bit of a mess last night. When defending our midfield was all over the place.
We are currently 20 odd goal difference back on the Manchester teams – we should be trying to reduce that shouldn’t we and we could have scored more with a bit more tactical awareness?
We’ve played much better (against Wolves for instance and against Man City away) without a win and I’ve cheered the performance.
So I guess what this waffle means is that people are going to moan when we are not at our best – we weren’t very good last night, that’s why people were moaning.
PS – did anyone notice we nearly scored from a corner – twice!
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Alspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 3:22 pm
Funny, cos I really thought some of the stuff we played last night (esp in the first half) was the best I’ve ever seen at the Lane…
Carving them open at will, whilst not giving them a sniff of a chance… it doesn’t get much better, does it?
People will always moan: saw someone moaning about Ade’s performance, earlier – we won 3-1 FFS!!! OK, he didn’t score, but he did his bit to ensure that others did…
Drives me up the wall – I’ve never criticised one of our players: might have encouraged them to push on or get the f*ck back in defence from time to time, but never individual criticism… that just makes most players play well within their capabilities and start hiding… totally counter-productive…
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Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Yes, the Croats corners are better than Bales or VDV`s yet he can`t keep it down from 25 yds, great goal from 15 last night, he`s brilliant………but still a traitor, unless he `effin stays.
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ollyparklane Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Really?? I must have been pissed… We played some great stuff yesterday and Bale was so unlucky not to get a hatrick when he beat 5 players. We were a tiny bit casual, but terrible??? I bet Chelski and the scum would live to be that terrible at the moment. FFS…
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mattspurs Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:37 pm
We are much better than Chelski and Arse at the moment – and I don’t think that’s boasting, it’s true. For the first time in a long time we are getting envious glances from both sets of fans.
I’d give us a 7/10 last night – but in a season where we’ve got quite a few 9′s and a couple of 10′s. Games like Everton and Villa were just outstanding examples of football. I do remember when a 7/10 was a good score but I guess I just got greedy!
Yes Bale did score 2, could have had five – most of those chances came when he was wider and running at people, I just want him to be doing more of that and less of the midfield congesting! (the question is, should he being just doing it or should Harry be telling him to?)
Wigan are a really really poor side and they had a few decent chances that better players would have put away, one bloke let the ball through his legs two yards out!
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February 1st, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Benny’s safe! The ref saw the incident last night so no further action can be taken………..phew!
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Essexian76 Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 3:19 pm
You read my mind, because I was wondering why Charlie was let go on loan when we have little or no cover for Walker and no cover whatsoever for Benny. I could understand it if it was a permanent deal for him or Bassong, but I cannot see what purpose is served by these departures? And when he did that last night (thought he had a stinker btw), I thought French Connection or what, that’s a red!
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Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 3:57 pm
Don`t like to see that from any Spurs player, i have to criticise him as i would do any player from any team. Have had bad injuries myself due to tackles like that. Bad game from Benny.
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Sean Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Yes, very distressing for all those who go along as a family to the game, but then again it’s only for grow up’s.
Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
You need to grow up, perhaps you`ve stumbled onto the wrong blog, this is football not needlework.
Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:19 pm
You state “oh not a family game anymore”….Why ?
Seems you want to live in a nanny state, football is not perfect but then you don`t have to go do you.
Sean Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Oh not a family game anymore……Why not bring back the good old days of the ICF…. running around the Lane. Yea your right…it’s just football…..who’s cares about the rucks, abuse and racism……..yea this is football.
Sean Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Ratspur has a point……Nanny state……. well you know about that one. TWAT.
Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:31 pm
As i stated earlier Sean, no need for name calling, you`re not in the playground now. Notice again i don`t stoop to your level.
kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
good
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Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Did the cat get the mouse, was it Kill Bill ?
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Billy Legit Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Nope, it was a giant rabbit called ‘Frank’.
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Razspur Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:35 am
Giant wabbit called Fwank
Billy Legit Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 12:00 pm
I think i prefer the mouse related piss-takes
February 1st, 2012 at 3:26 pm
There ia always the “you pays yer money you takes yer choice..” Why do people go if all they do is moan. Can understand the occaissional “FFS you twat” when a pass is misplaced ( didn’t see much defence of J***s against his slaggers by the way HH)!
Seems to me tho’ that the world of football fans is increasingly divided between the ‘love to watch a game’ fans and the ‘if we lose my personal standing down the pub with my rival fan mates will be compromised’ fans. Those that see their support as self esteem and personal glorification.that’s what drives the oft unfounded abuse – low self esteem.
If you can’t take the downs as well as the ups – don’t go to football.
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 3:54 pm
“Those that see their support as self esteem and personal glorification.that’s what drives the oft unfounded abuse – low self esteem”.
Why couldn’t I have put it as succinctly as that?
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February 1st, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Looking at some of the posts and the “usual suspects” behind them on this blog, I am often dismayed at the “no half measures” attitude that is often prevalent.
Many players have been slated in the past few months, but it’s not the “X had a bad game last week” slating that would be fair. It is more along the lines of “X is a useless cnut who has never played a decent game for us and never will and HR is an even bigger cnut for having picked (and/or signed) him”.
It’s not the moaning that ‘cheeses me off’, it’s the vituperative hatred that many of us feel is mandatory with any criticism that we make. In the upcoming run of games against the Sky4, if Defoe scores a hat-trick in each game coming on as a sub each time, there will still be those who will slag him off, because they are so inflexible in their thinking.
I admit that I have criticised players myself, but I have never written anything that smacks of the pure pathological hatred that some of us display. I am currently thinking about the double team and looking at players such as Dyson, Baker, Allen and Henry who between them accumulated one England cap. We currently have the best team since 67, and possibly even the double side, and bearing in mind the pedigree of those four double winners, I am pretty confident that if this was 1961, they would be coming in for a lot of stick, not because they were not good enough, but because there were better players available.
I don’t see that much wrong with our squad, though I do often question the tactics that we use, such as playing without wingers against Watford, but at the end of the day, I can never let my frustration turn into the vicious hatred that some of us are so ready to adopt.
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LosLorenzo Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Ummm… Yeah…
Some good points, as usual SOID. I just think, if you were trying to precipitate a change of attitude in these people, you would do well to avoid words like “vituperative” and “pathological”. They’re a bit on the long side for that crowd, no?
And “I don’t see that much wrong with our squad.” What the hell is that supposed to mean?
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:23 pm
If you recall, I am in the camp that questions whether HR is a tactical genius. What he generally does well is raises players morale. I think with the current squad a manager that can maintain morale and is a better tactician than HR, could get even more out of this team such as making the defence a bit more solid or cutting out the “Hail Mary” balls into the opponents area. They might even learn about how to find one of our players from a set-piece.
Regarding my choice of words, it’s fair to say that there are degrees of hatred, and there are some on here who leave me with the distinct impression that if we were in America, I would have to worry most Monday’s about some of the “going postal”. My choice of words was to identify the level of hatred that some seem to think is obligatory.
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LosLorenzo Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Oh no, I get you. And more or less agree completely.
I was having a dig at the chronic malcontents by insinuating that perhaps they suffer from a condition psychologists refer to as being not very bright.
This is of course an over-simplification. Some of them clearly are of perfectly average intelligence, but are angry all the time because they have very small penises
LosLorenzo Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:43 pm
I said I agreed with what you said. I didn’t read it closely enough.
“find one of our players from a set-piece”
You dreamer. Never going to happen.
SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
It’s nothing to do with being bright. I think they inhabit a different reality from you and I.
Gilzeanwasgod Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Los, can you be ‘perfectly average’? I think it’s an oxymoron.
PS HH do I get bonus marks for the first use of oxymoron on this blog?
Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Not arf.
LosLorenzo Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
You’re an oxymoron
Just kidding. I think you’re right. The idiomatically correct phrase would have been “perfectly normal”. Which also doesn’t make much sense, but that’s the English language for you.
February 1st, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Players were let go during this window because they’re not happy. I would rather have a youngster chomping at the bit to get a game than an overpaid pro who takes the field when he gets his chance with a chip on his shoulder.
Lancaster came on last night and looked better than Pav, its all body language.
Getting rid of the sad ones is better for team morale. Like Harry said about Bassong, the boy’s head is down. No amount of arms round the shoulder can change that because lets face it he wasn’t gonna get a game.
The difference is that Nelson and Saha would accept sitting on the bench and making positive impact where they can.
Believe it or not, we’re third at the moment. Somehow i dont think that’s because harry and co have made bad decisions…
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February 1st, 2012 at 3:59 pm
well i thought the fans were good last night we got a good slow spurs go marching and some harry waving and chanting when we were cruising,we will always get gasps and groans when they don’t keep that super light fantastic move going,we are tottenham after all
footballers are held to awfully high standards from everyone which makes me laugh really,its not exactly easy what they do,otherwise we’d all get off our fat lazy arses and do it,just on the radio after the aussie open final i heard footballers/football being slagged off because i don’t know why really,i’d like to see djokovic/federer playing right back for man utd,they look like a right f*cking prick for 90mins,
the money in football seems to give the media/idiots the licence to be total c8nts that other sports get away with,money is just an illusion
what i dislike are peoples irrational hatred and idiotic comments on other clubs,players,managers just because,
i’m a football fan in the end,anyway is that a good window,i understand people saying get rid of rotten eggs but what about our full backs going down,what do we do then,does levy realise where we are and what we can achieve,i’d be buying back up just for the fuck of it
lets give saha a chance,you never know,we make enough chances to keep anyone happy up there,hope he has a golden patch
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February 1st, 2012 at 4:02 pm
well i thought the fans were good last night we got a good slow spurs go marching and some harry waving and chanting when we were cruising,we will always get gasps and groans when they don’t keep that super light fantastic move going,we are tottenham after all
footballers are held to awfully high standards from everyone which makes me laugh really,its not exactly easy what they do,otherwise we’d all get off our fat lazy arses and do it,just on the radio after the aussie open final i heard footballers/football being slagged off because i don’t know why really,i’d like to see djokovic/federer playing right back for man utd,they look like a right f*cking prick for 90mins,
the money in football seems to give the media/idiots the licence to be total c8nts that other sports get away with,money is just an illusion
what i dislike are peoples irrational hatred and idiotic comments on other clubs,players,managers just because,
i’m a football fan in the end,anyway is that a good window,i understand people saying get rid of rotten eggs but what about our full backs going down,what do we do then,does levy realise where we are and what we can achieve,i’d be buying back up just for the f*ck of it
lets give saha a chance,you never know,we make enough chances to keep anyone happy up there,hope he has a golden patch
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:07 pm
“the money in football seems to give the media/idiots the licence to be total c8nts that other sports get away with,money is just an illusion”
I recall back in the 70′s, Martin Chivers wife had left him for another man, and Francis Lee was conned out of about £350k (about 3 mill in today’s money), and neither story made the press, even though they were amongst the best players of their era. What’s changed? I think you hit the nail on the head: Money
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LosLorenzo Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
It might be the money as well, but that can’t be all. You don’t see the a centre-fold spread in the Bun every time a JP Morgan Chase or Goldman & Sachs executive goes out on the piss, do you? Their earnings make Ronaldo’s earnings look like he’s flipping burgers at McD’s.
It’s that the media has discovered that we, the public, are willing to PAY to read/watch this drivel about moronic, uneducated athletes and talentless reality-TV celebrities. That indicates a shift in social norms and appetites, and a de-tabooification of voyeurism. That footballers get more schtick than tennis players probably has to do with the fact that they are immeasurably more moronic and uneducated, and therefor more prone to “outrageous” behaviour.
Federer’s mum has never been busted shoplifting, and his dad never sold blow. Djokovic doesn’t waltz out of nightclubs after winning a title, on legs of rubber, looking like a Dickensian drunkard.
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Essexian76 Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:38 pm
When you’ve got a media that’s told to incite the jealousy of the reader by being instructed by their editors to ALWAYS mention their salaries and lifestyle, what else do you expect other than a negative response? The truth of the matter is none of us given the opportunity would act any differently or lead the a life of a monk-it’s only because it’s them not us that’s doing it. I’d give my right leg to swap places with any of them that’s for sure
kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:39 pm
they are not all uneducated and moronic and of course football is a billion times bigger than tennis and an outlet for millions of humans and the biggest sport for the corporates to try and hawk their goods to us,hence the money
i love tennis,one of my other fav sports but of course when a leading tennis players smashes his racket,abuses the umpire,has a tantrum and swears ,which they all do regularly,its just all so noble but god forbid a footballer doing these things as its why the world is going tits up to the stars
SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
@Los
But the difference is that in the days of Chivers and Lee, though players might earn a “good wage” relatively speaking, they were never going to be able to retire at the end of their playing careers. Now there are some players who could retire and live well for the rest of their lives on the basis of one years earnings in the PL.
In the 60′s Players marrying models and other celebs was a rare event because players couldn’t keep them in the style to which they had become accustomed. Nowadays, these are generally a pair bimbos made for each other. One makes their money from a passing talent, and the other from passing good looks.
I recall the words of the late Willie Rushton, who said the definition of a bimbo, is a slag with a press agent. Who but a bimbo would put up with Ashley Cole, Sven or Wayne Rooney?
LosLorenzo Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:16 pm
@E76
If you gave your right leg you wouldn’t be much good as a footballer, now would you? But I agree, the willingness to accept the way in which the media whore out the personal lives of these individuals has something to do with jealously.
@Kojac
Not ALL footballers are stupid and savage. Only the ones most frequently coveredin the tabloids. And I’ve never heard of tennis players being charged (in some cases on more than one occasion) for gang raping underage girls. The “corporates hawking” aside, I think the actual behaviour of the individuals plays a large role in deciding what gets splashed across the covers of the red-tops.
Obviously, as you say, football is a huuuuge sport compared to anything else. Basic maths suggests that the net amount of bad behaviour perpetrated by footballers will also be larger than for other sports.
Maybe I’m prejudiced, but there seems to be a lot more acceptance among sponsors, coaches, fellow athletes and people in general, for primitive behaviour from footballers than other professionals. I might be wrong, but I just don’t think any of Federer, Nadal, Becker, Lendl, McEnroe or Sampras ever went out on the piss during their active careers. Compare and contrast with Maradonna, Best, Gazza, Terry, King (the list goes on).
LosLorenzo Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:22 pm
@SOID
The money definitely explains in full why modern footballers have fitter birds than in the days of old. Women seek security above all else, and riches give (at least the illusion) of just that. Some things never change, and gold-diggers is one of them.
That doesn’t, for me, explain the contemporary fixation with the minutiae of the everyday lives of celebrities. Sure, humans have always worshipped their heroes (from Mozart to DaVinci to Marilyn Monroe). We just didn’t use to be quite so facinated with any chance to prove to ourselves that they put their pants on one leg at a time, by regaling every little fuckup they make, in public, ad nauseum.
kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:32 pm
who has been gang raping under age girls,you just don’t hear about the other sports dirty laundry as no one gives a f*ck outside the top 2%
you are talking about what 20-30 top tennis players over the years and 1000′s of footballers from all around the world,i could give you a list aslong as anything about good decent football professionals like bobby moore,gordon banks,bobby charlton,beckenbauer and many many many others etc etc
LosLorenzo Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:48 pm
As I said, there are more footballers, so you would definitely expect more bad behaviour in total. But I’ll admit, I might not be objective on this one.
As for the raping. Titus Bramble was arrested. His brother was twice. Ched Evans & Clayton McDonald. Klasnic. That’s just the ones in England in the last 5 years.
None of them found guilty, but when was the last time you heard of a rape allegation actually sticking to someone who could afford a lawyer wearing Armani?
Essexian76 Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:48 pm
It makes me so bloody angry when fans on the radio and very occasionally on here bleat on about players wages and ‘if they were on £xxxk per week’ they’d have scored, saved, passed or whatever, forgetting of course the simple fact that they’re not nor will ever be and it’s the demands of the fans and the subsequent pressure for success that has caused this situation in the first place!. The keyword is Professional,in other words you pay to watch-the get paid to play- it’s really that simple. Can you imagine any sane chairman willingly spending an absolute fortune for the sheer hell of it?
SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:54 pm
@Kojac
At the risk of sounding like my granddad, I do believe that we were better behaved 40 or 50 years ago, but it is not just the change in behaviour, but the relative affluence of footballers today compared to that era.
The ancient riche will often look down on the nouveau riche because they often cannot tell the difference money and class. And so it is today, that many players think that they are “special” because they are earning £1 mill a year plus. I don’t say that about all of them, but in terms of behaviour, it is a lot easier to find a John Terry nowadays, than it is to find a Stanley Matthews.
It doesn’t just apply to football either. Look at the reception Tyson got when he went to Brixton. I wouldn’t have let him get past Heathrow personally.
For all their bad behaviour, what we should not forget (but often do), is that a pig with money is still a pig.
kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:04 pm
haha,don’t get me wrong loz,i’m not trying to defend footballers on everything,when hasn’t money been the game changer in anything,the celebrity/sex assault charge appears to be a popular one in the last 15 years a good money maker for the lawyers no doubt,thats not to say guilty men walk free
the media has double standards and to be honest i can’t stand media journalists and their righteous preaching,they are complete c*nts in my opinion,lol,they certainly don’t print what they preach
they should have one game a season where an annoying prick of a journalist has to play full back for 90mins so we can all have a laugh
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:20 pm
I didn’t think you were trying to defend them. I was just giving my take on the changes and a possible explanation why.
kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:21 pm
@dublin
not sure people get worse with time,just more reporting/less secrets nowadays
also people love judging people they don’t even know,just what a newscorpmedia company reports
who will cast the first stone and all that,of course some people are bad,nothing we can do about that
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:42 pm
I am trying to think of players who were convicted of serious crimes in the period of up to 1970 ish, and can only think of three names. Graham French, Rashid Harkouk, and Peter Storey. I think with the latter, he was regularly in trouble but that was after he finished playing. Nowadays, we have convicted sex offenders playing, and have even had tagged players on the pitch.
I do think standards have declined, and my own personal experience of that was as a cab driver with 20 years experience of Saturday nights. There was definitely a downward spiral, and it never failed to amaze me, the number of people who knew their “rights” but knew nothing of their responsibilities. The troubles with pigs with money, is that they behave like pigs.
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kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:00 pm
i have to concede about 20 years of saturday nights,i wouldn’t fancy being a cabby with drunks everywhere,a lack of respect for people and property in general
of course people have still been fighting drunk since we could and rob and steal,i don’t know what the difference is,maybe the 24hr media,you can never get away from a bad headline has to mean something right
SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 8:40 pm
The problem was not so much drunks, who you can prepare for, but drug takers which are not easy to spot, but were much more likely to be very volatile.
February 1st, 2012 at 4:03 pm
The intolerance towards others who perhaps don’t think or act like you seems to be a fast growing disease, I wonder who the real carriers are?
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kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:05 pm
fast growing,i think it has been here from year dot,we just didn’t all live together back in the day
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LosLorenzo Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:16 pm
What are you on about, koj? It’s definitely a 90′s/Naughties development. Back in the 40′s there was never any of that “intolerance towards others who perhaps don’t think or act like you” malarkey around. Especially not in Germany.
Oh, another case in point; how about the USA from it’s inception until, saaaaay the 60′s. Nope. No intolerance based on what you believed or the color of your skin. None at all…
And yeah. Back in the 12th century muslims and Catholics got along famously, even if they had different holy texts. Everybody knows that…
Get with the program, Koj. Intolerance is definitely a new thing. Personally, I think it’s just a fad. No need to get too worked up. People will get sick of it soon enough…
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kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:18 pm
yeah,those crusaders were just about big hugs all round and big sloppy kisses
February 1st, 2012 at 4:04 pm
mm i’m awaiting moderation,i thought i took out the naughty words
anyway a nice slow spurs go marching last night,i can’t be arsed re write everything else
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February 1st, 2012 at 4:29 pm
My final thought on Pav, a controversial figure it seems.
I’m not saying we should consider him a Spurs ledge’, but think about the following. The most frequent criticism of him is usually phrased something like this:
Sure, he could finish. But he did naff all else!
Ole Gunnar Solskjær did absolutely nothing other than score some goals. He is a Man U hero. I don’t think I ever saw Lineker do a rabid-Tevez-dog impression in trying to win it back. Fox-in-the-box. I don’t need to tell you what we said about him. Ruud Van Nistlerooy anyone?
I’m not saying Pav is better than these blokes, but he is definitely judged by different standards than they are. What the hell is wrong with a forward who only scores goals and does nothing else?
On a side note, I think Friedel needs to be dropped NOW! He doesn’t contribute enough assists, and never gets a shot on target.
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kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:33 pm
no one really backed pav,you have to back your strikers or partner them right.we have palyed 1 upfront more often than not for 2 years,pav was never going to cut it out as a lone frontman
take adebayor for example,the goals have dried up but last night he was doing everything else exactly right in my opinion anyway,we should buy him really
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Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:37 pm
First touch is pretty lame, great hold up play. Kaboul was triffic, easily my MOTM even though Baler clinched the points.
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
I heard the commentator on my stream describe Kaboul as “The most improved player in the PL”.
If only we could get a couple of CB’s that weren’t built like Airfix kits without glue, we would have in YK, the perfect defender who could play anywhere at the back, or as a defensive DM.
SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Agree with you on that.4-5-1 was never going to work with Pav. This raises another point. I think it was TMWNN who frequently alluded to the number of goals the Def and 3MP scored under 4-4-2 and the lack of goals thereafter once we built the team around VDV.
This year the experiment paid off, but IMHO last year, it cost us CL qualification.
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LosLorenzo Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
4-5-1/4-3-3 works just fine with Pav. On the bench.
LosLorenzo Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Not that I’m hoping he starts too many games, but Saha does have a lot more experience (and proven ability) leading a line on his own.
Just have to hop he doesn’t stub his toe on a blade of grass.
kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
that’s true i guess,goals cost us cl qualy,we were caught in two worlds without a real frontman to get the job done
February 1st, 2012 at 4:29 pm
so nelson and saha,nelson always seemed like a good soldier like dawson to me,100 percenter
not sure i’d have got rid of peanut though,don’t see the point.no euros for him or was it saha or not without peanut
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LosLorenzo Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Think Peanut is a loan dealy. We still own him, so Levy can still make his shekels on that trade.
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kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:25 pm
yes peanut is a loan but i mean he is not in the euros so no need to get noticed,what if 3 of our midfielders go down and peanut isn’t here,he ain’t a bad squad player for me
an unnecessary deal imo
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LosLorenzo Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Think shop window.
LosLorenzo Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:27 pm
He probably also asked to play. I think he’s getting worried about his SA spot if the benchwarming persists. Thudd will hopefully be back soon, and Livermore is ‘Arry’s preferred backup in the middle at the moment. And he also recently said that he thought Krankie had improved at playing in the middle, so maybe he’s ahead of Peanut in the pecking order now, too. Who knows?
I agree that we do look injury-prone, but I guess who isn’t. Richer teams than us also lack sufficient backup should they lose, say, Ronaldo, Messi or David Silva.
February 1st, 2012 at 4:44 pm
i like that spurredonindublin bloke.aint got a clue what hes on about but he aint arf posh.i bet hhis mugs have handles and he eats pizza with a knife n fork.
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Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:54 pm
China & Silver tea service me old mucker, no chips and he would never risk a pizza. Still we all have crosses to bear.
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:11 pm
That reminds me, next time I am near Ridley Road market, to get the silver sugar tongs that I left there for my own person use. Waste of time really. Could never persuade them to change from granulated.
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Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Takes quite a while with the tongs, that`s why i switched to the tablets.BTW Irish Intl Coin Fair is 17/18th Feb at RDS so i`ll contact you IGT.
Essexian76 Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
I used to take me own spoon and fork to Cookes at Dalston, dirty great things they had, far too robust for my delicate features
Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Have seen you eating Sir Ian and it`s the first time i`ve seen sparks from a knife and fork. Delicate you aint.
SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
@ Essex.
I hear that Cookes is a Chinese restaurant now. I remember being about seven years old and passing them on my way home from school each day. We used to dare each other to touch the “snakes”. Something I haven’t thought about for years.
Essexian76 Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:34 pm
@ Dub, it sure is and a very good one too and also a listed building. It’s where we used to pull as so many young teenage girls worked there on Saturdays. As for the ‘snakes’, never eaten one in my life, seeing them alive, then hauled and gutted was enough to put me off.
melcyid Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:37 pm
if they are short of coins ,I usually look down the back of the sofa.
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Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:31 pm
All i get down the back of the sofa are sweet papers and a few peas, never money though i live in hope.
SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:42 pm
@Raz
Glad you told me that. I was just about to book a trip to Amsterdam that day.
Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Dub i wouldn`t let everyone know about “Touching the Snake” some wag might get the wrong end of the Snake. Can be with you early on the 17th, say 9:00am……if that suits.
SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:10 am
I’ve sent you an e-mail about that.
SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 4:55 pm
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melcyid Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:33 pm
can anything posh come out of Dublin?
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kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
oscar wilde
SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:41 pm
I don’t know. I come out of Dalston.
melcyid Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
was he posh? I know he was a bit the other way.
what about psb isnt he posh.he’s got all kinds of money stashed away.
kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
he seems kind of posh,but i am no expert but he must be one of the poshest things to come out of dublin
February 1st, 2012 at 5:33 pm
been going to spurs since ’77/78, it’s always been the same, throughout our history there’s always been a whipping boy, we know who they are
I’d hasten to add it’s the manager/owners fault, they keep buying & playing these imposters – really can anyone actually believe Giberto was a brazilian left back?
On the subject of shite fans, I f*cking hate those planks who leave early, it’s like going to someones house, having a shite and not flushing. Snipers on the high road, maim them
when is J**** fit?
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Hartley Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Now you’re talking…..I know it’s an absolute nightmare getting out of Tottenham after the match but I can honestly say in 40 years I have never voluntarily left a football match early and I have to drive home to Yorkshire after every match!
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jfdit Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:36 pm
I’ve stayed to the end at some real horror shows 7-1 @ newcastle, 6-1 @ bolton, 1-6 chelsea to name the three worst ones from memory, etched in the memory – character building
only time I’ve ever left early is when I got nicked in the north bank
thankfully the peeler’s bar ‘memory lane’ used to do a special £1 a pint offer when we lost to soften the blow back in the day
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Essexian76 Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Me too and Port Vale, Derby County twice (ouch, that was really painful)Wrexham Cardiff and Altrincham
melcyid Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 12:43 am
derby away 0=5 with Mackay as their capt against us for the first time.Flitwick in beds will never forget that game either.
Essexian76 Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 1:11 am
That was it, I was about 12 and all of 5 stone dripping wet and went to the game with a few of my ‘elders and betters’ (cough). On the train home, all hell broke loose and our supporters began trashing the train. Some bloke had ripped the sink out of the loo and gave it me to ‘hold’, me, partly stupid, mostly petrified, sat there holding the damned thing, when the police pinched me for vandalism, as I recall the place was Clay Cross, but they dropped all charges, but I got a right hiding all the same.
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Hartley Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:26 am
Those were the days……
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Essexian76 Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Hart’s, that was nothing compared to Rotterdam in ’74 and again in ’81, if anyone was at either of those two games they’ll tell ya, and Brugges ’84 was a little bit on the hairy side
Razspur Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:57 am
Derby were a hell of a team 71-75, winning the Div 1 title twice and top 6 the other years. Why Clough left for a 44 day sabbatical in Leeds was astounding. Couldn`t remember them beating us 5-0, must be selective memory. Just like the 76-77 season.
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:25 am
I have a recollection of this in 68 or 9
SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:08 am
Just looked it up. 20/9/69 we lost 5-0 to Derby.
Essexian76 Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
’76 we lost 8-2 to Derby as well, Rioch bagged four, the tosser!
February 1st, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Side note from the game yesterday. Its the only time I can remember Spurs fans singing Redknapp’s name, at least in the last year or two. All it took for that to happen is him to get arrested.
Big test to come against the car thieves at the weekend. I say we just accept that fans will always have different opinions, one of the reasons I love reading every article from HH, to make my own judgements.
Modric pushed into Rafa’s vacant spot with Sandro coming in to shackle the Geordie enigma and South American sweetheart.
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February 1st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
NEXT GEN tourno ternite v feral bindippers.be good for our yoof led by coolibally to meet Barca in the final.bioyfbc
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February 1st, 2012 at 6:27 pm
How comes Chavski have successfully asked that Dog terrys racial abuse trial be postponed until after the season so as not to interfere with his football.
Wot about our great leader and his football responsibilities and his trial.
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LosLorenzo Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
He’s captain of England, ‘Arry’s not. Plus ‘Arry allegedly cheated the government, while Terry is just charged with insulting some stupid n*****.
You can imagine which charge the authorities take more seriously.
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
If I recall, HR’s case was originally scheduled for last July, but one of the parties sought an extension.
I would add that I have known cases in the Magistrates court to be adjourned because of holiday commitments of witnesses and or defendants.
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LosLorenzo Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 8:29 am
Wasn’t it also scheduled to happen around November last year, but had to be further postponed due to ‘Arry’s surgery? Or am I just imagining that?
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:58 am
Imagining I’m afraid.
February 1st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
perhaps we should ask septic bladder to have any black players removed from the england opposition as it might prove inflammatory to our captain at this sensitive time.
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February 1st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
BY the way my mom v wigan was Krankie, although there were some great shifts put in by others.all in all a treat to watch.
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kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
i think krankie can only play a half at full steam,a bit like vdv they should play a half each if you ask me
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jfdit Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:05 pm
krankie is a proper footballer through & through, perfect for our passing game, wigan were targeting him in the end as they saw the influence he was having on the game
I’d play him in the home games and last half hour in away games, he’ll cause some real carnage given the chance
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kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:30 pm
i agree,when we make the lennon sub and unbalance the team.i’d prefer a straight swap of krank for vdv,keep the passing game going,
we are lucky the krank hasn’t forced a move really.he could play 90mins at the sunderlands etc for good money too,although i guess he is happy with his tottenham wage
February 1st, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Am I right in saying the camera angle was back to its rightful place up on high?
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melcyid Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
yep noticed that too
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February 1st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
NextGen yoof on free telly – can’t seem to post link but it’s available at the usual sources
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kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:33 pm
you mean stream not normal telly,right
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Snap Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:50 pm
link at footballstreaming.info
it’s definitely not normal – ‘pool looking better than us. HT 0-0
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Snap Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Spurs (4-3-3): Miles; Barthram, Veljkovic, Nicholson, Stewart; Luongo, Pritchard, Gomelt; Coulthirst, Coulibaly, Munns. Subs: Granger, Bentaleb, Ceballos, Ekong, McEvoy, Angol
No sign of that 6 year old Iversen jnr playing for the under 19s yet then
Elsewhere…Come On You Bolton Wanderers
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kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:51 pm
cool thanks for the team,and well done the trotters
you see everybody worried,my 21 winning games for CL is almost fool proof,the chavs and goons just aren’t up to it,thankfully
February 1st, 2012 at 7:16 pm
There is some feeling of Deja Vu in reading this.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7472761/
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February 1st, 2012 at 7:45 pm
It makes me laugh when people call spurs fans fickle. I’ve also been to a few Bournemouth games and bloody hell, what are they expecting, 1970 Brazil. We are laid back compared to that lot.
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:03 pm
I wouldn’t say we are fickle, but we do sometimes lose contact with reality.
While I am on the subject, can anybody else explain why we failed to sign Messi and Ronaldo, and why hasn’t DL sent in an SAS extraction team to Madrid to rescue Mourinho.
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February 1st, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Up to 1,000 injured and 73 confirmed dead at a football match in Egypt.
That puts it all in perspective.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:31 pm
I heard that in the car, the figure was only 50 about an hour ago. What carnage was there that they are still watching people die? Unbelievable.
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February 1st, 2012 at 8:58 pm
as a 3-5 times a season attender i think its worth mentioning the level of excitment that builds up,add a few pints at the bricklayers and the passions run high. i dont personaly shout negatives(crouch aside) but i do understand that some people get a bit carried away.
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Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:10 pm
The person shouting abusively is at least showing passion for the game and his/her team but the guy/girl who contributes little in praise or negativeity may just as well have stayed at home. Just Saying.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:30 pm
The problem with The Lane is quite often the home fans are so disinterested to even muster even a groan lket alone boo.
I’d like to have the place full of losers like me; singing their empty heads off, abuse the ref a bit, take the mickey out of the away lot and then slope off for a Turkish.
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Razspur Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Agreed, many times when we couldn`t muster 2 wins a month the atmosphere was electric (well almost). Maybe we do expect too much, let`s show the scum on Monday Night………much as i criticise them, the fans do get behind the Scousers. BOLTON 0-0 ARSENAL Magic !
Hartley Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Bring back the drummer!
February 1st, 2012 at 9:54 pm
yes well done the trotters and come on the geordies 4th is up for grabs
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February 1st, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Well done Bolton
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February 1st, 2012 at 9:58 pm
NEXTGEN – SPURS 1-0 LIVERPOOL
Shaq Coulthirst’s goal toppled Liverpool in the NextGen Series at White Hart Lane tonight.
(Love Shaq)
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kojac Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:00 pm
shaq attack
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melcyid Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:58 pm
easier said then done
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February 1st, 2012 at 10:00 pm
i do think the owners don’t do enough for the supporters in stadiums,without 15,000 standing together,of course atmospheres will go down,personally i don’t see whats wrong with standing again like in germany
but if we do get a new stadium i hope they have places for flags and huge banners and a massive flag in that end which is all one bank that comes down from the top of the stadium to the ground with pics of spurs legends and stuff to get the blood pumping before kick off
and a huge golden cock somewhere
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Essexian76 Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Couldn’t agree more, safe standing areas behind the goals are the missing ingredient to creating the best atmosphere and reducing costs for the supporter-a lot more pressure should be put on the FA and Parliament to get them re-instated. In the light of today’s football attendances, where empty seats are clearly becoming the norm because of the costs involved. It’s a no-brainer in my opinion, if clubs operate a season ticket with a maximum capacity enforced for the area.
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February 1st, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Having played the game i would never wish any player illness or injury.
Jack Wilshire it seems is diagnosed with a small crack and is unlikely to be fit for the squad selection for Euro 2012, if John Terry knew you had a small crack he`d be up there in a flash.
Hope you`ve paid up that silly wager Jacko!
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 10:38 pm
I like it
With A. Cole queueing up behind him no doubt.
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February 1st, 2012 at 10:36 pm
I have a feeling that if I was to log onto an Arse blog tonight, there will be gooners on there saying, “Don’t worry about Spurs, they still have to play us, cheatski and the scousers away, as well as Manure at home. They are only 12 points ahead. When they lose those four games, we will be right up alongside them”.
This time last year, they were 11 points ahead, and now they are 12 points behind. If I were Arsenal, I wouldn’t be thinking in terms of “we are only 12 points behind”? I would be asking “how bad my team is that we have suffered a 23 point swing to spurs in one season”?
So HH, as we have been generally very polite and civilised tonight, can you post that stat as a headline in your next blog, and we can then have the pleasure of giving the gooners who drop in, a cyber kicking.
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LosLorenzo Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:08 am
Oooh! If we’re doing gooner stats, how about these?
Only Wigan (27) have conceded more goals on their travels this season than Le Arse (25)
or
Sunderland (19) and Fulham (22) have scored more goals at home than Arsescum (17)
or
Wenger’s harem have taken more points away from home than any other team.*
*Except for United, Shitty and Spurs. And Chavski and ‘Poo. And the Geordies. And West Brom and Villa. And Stoke. And Everton.
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:46 am
Talking about Sunderland, you can still get 16/1 against them finishing in the top 6. They are 6 and 7 points respectively behind the carthieves and Arse who have both still to play at Sund.
Not saying that Sund will catch them, but on current form, it’s doable and 16/1 is a decent price.
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February 1st, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Hey Dub, it`s not even a match night and you`re wetting yourself, give the gooners a break they are 7th and might qualify for the Europa Cup by the Fair Play Card if one of the 6 teams above them win the FA Cup.
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melcyid Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 11:03 pm
gooners -fair play?not in the same sentence
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Just thinking, wouldn’t it be great if Van Pervert was to do a Judas and join us on a free because he wants to play in the CL. He’s only got 18 months left on his contract.
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melcyid Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 11:10 pm
creme de la creme
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 1st, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Swansea are currently top of the Fair Play league, so even that might be too much of a stretch for them.
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February 1st, 2012 at 10:57 pm
I have no love (or even liking) for Newcastle, but it would be chuckle-tastic for them to nick a CL place at the expense of the Goons and Chavs.
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Essexian76 Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
And it would probably get Pardew the England jobbie in the process
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February 1st, 2012 at 11:08 pm
the possibility of that scenario was suggested as a not unrealistic outcome today and caused much mirth and merriment in my conversation with a fellow yid.Both had a good chortle at that,hope no one was watching.
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February 1st, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Well done to Spurs yoof tonight, bring on Barca….
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February 2nd, 2012 at 12:32 am
HR…Are you stareing at me officer ?
PO…No, i have a severe squint,was actually looking at the clock.
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February 2nd, 2012 at 12:46 am
martin o’neill’s merry men are creeping up on the arse would you believe.
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February 2nd, 2012 at 1:25 am
John Terry`s case being put back until after the Euro 2012 Championship is a disgrace. It should have been heard ASAP to either clear his name or find him guilty. The fact that he is England Captain has no bearing on a case of Racism. The FA are clearly not tough on the chosen few.
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:56 am
With respect: It’s nothing to do with the FA. A criminal court has set the date.
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Razspur Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:05 am
I would think the FA requested a later date to ensure his availability, too much of a co-incidence a week after the Euro`s. Capello was adament he wanted Terry in the squad.
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Razspur Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:17 am
The FA had almost completed it`s enquiries when the police stepped in with a criminal case. The FA could still strip him of the captaincy or tell Capello not to select him in the interests of football. That would have no bearing on the case in question.
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:04 am
It is common for court cases to be adjourned around previous committments such as holidays, and this is applied to both defendant’s and witnesses.
You should also consider that the witnesses against him are also footballers who may have a similar schedule to Terryble and may have already booked holidays for May and June as well as their being the remote chance that they could be picked to play in the Euros. It would seem perverse if they refused to give Terry an adjournment because of the Euros, but then granted it because Ferdinand was in the squad, or alternately, that Anton could not be picked because he has to give evidence against him.
Finally, the FA would not take any action prior to the outcome of a criminal trial for fear of being seen to prejudice the outcome.
Razspur Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Not picking him or Terry voulentarily stepping down would not be prejudicial in fact it would lessen the current furore and be seen as aiding the England cause.
February 2nd, 2012 at 1:33 am
Check out Erlan Maella`s Goal on u-tube.
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February 2nd, 2012 at 1:40 am
Correction…Erlan Mealla
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LosLorenzo Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:19 am
Sign him immediately
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:13 am
We need to train Def to do that for the next time he over-runs the pass to him.
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