Posted on Thursday, 4th August 2011 by Harry Hotspur
Good morning,
I am in true Cyril Fletcher style indebted to HH reader and gentleman Tweeter, @RicciAshoori who has brought to my attention a fascinating twist in the whole Arry Redschnapps & HMRC fiasco.
Some of the information I can share with you is taken from a web site called http://thestory.ie/ a site with a tag line of ‘in search of transparency’. Well if this article is anything to go by they are very close to earning their Junior X-Ray Specs Badge.
The information I’m unable share with you are documents that are probably still subject to a Court Order issued by Southwark Crown Court. So what I’ll do for clarity is simply lift salient chunks of the thestory.ie article and if you want to go a hunting for more it’s far from difficult to find.
“The investigation is part of ‘Operation Apprentice’ a long standing investigation into alleged football corruption.
In 2007, then Portsmouth chief executive Peter Storrie was arrested — along with then manager Harry Redknapp, then club owner Milan Mandaric (now owner of Sheffield Wednesday), agent Willie McKay and former Portsmouth player Amdy Faye — over allegations of corruption. The five men were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to defraud and false accounting.
Last year Redknapp, who is the current manager at Tottenham, was charged with “two counts of cheating the public revenue of an estimated £40,000 after voluntarily attending London’s Bishopsgate police station”.
According to The Independent:
Charges concerned two payments, totalling 295,000 US dollars, alleged to have been made from Mandaric to Redknapp via a bank account in Monaco, evading the tax and National Insurance contributions due between April 1, 2002 and November 28, 2007.
Mandaric, now chairman of Leicester, was charged with tax evasion relating to the payment of 295,000 US dollars to another person via a Monaco bank account, evading tax and National Insurance.
Storrie was charged with concealing a signing-on fee for ex-Portsmouth player Amdy Faye by paying it into the midfielder’s bank account.
The allegation related to the transfer of Faye from Auxerre to Fratton Park for £1.5million in August 2003.
For his part, Redknapp sought to have the case against him dismissed in November last year.
But according to these court documents, the Crown Prosecution Service sought the assistance of the US Department of Justice in September 2010 relating to the transfer of $295,000 from the Florida bank account of a company called First Star International to an account held by Redknapp in Monaco.
Also included in a list given by the CPS was one payment by “Rosie 47? of $207,433.73 on February 12, 2008 to Redknapp. This payment was two months after he was arrested in November 2007. The source of another lodgment in June 2002, for $145,000, is unclear.
The CPS requested US authorities to assist them in obtaining information from the bank used by First Star International – the City National Bank of Florida.“
The content of those documents I am unprepared to share on this blog, but as I say, they are out there.
We’ll have a caption comp later 
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August 4th, 2011 at 8:37 am
I’ve read the documents as well which is an excellent piece of investigage journalism. Probably allowed to publish it because its an Irish Website and would not be in breach of any court order.
But to a layman like myself its pretty damning! I cannot see how the court can come to any verdict other than guitly?
There has always been allegations of impropriety surrounding Redknapp throughout his manageria career and this seems to validate those suspicions.
Surely if he is found guilty Levy should do all us long suffering fans a favour and sack him!
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Essex1981 Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Long suffering?
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60spur Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:00 am
What can you mean by long suffering!!
We surely don`t need fans like you!
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Greg Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Hear hear, 60spur! In the last two seasons, two top five finishes and a champions league spot for the first time ever. How many football club supporters in this country would give their right arms for that kind of ‘long suffering’?
Harry Hotspur Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Indeed, the author is blogging in Cork. And on a day like to day I wish I was too.
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Fatfish Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 8:44 am
I think the problem is proving that the monies were transferred with the sole purpose of avoiding paying tax & NI.
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dave Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:29 am
I’ve heard that he is bang to rights and that it is proving it was done on purpose that’s the hard part!
Is this why levy ain’t spending cos of what might happen
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LifeSearches4U Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Tax avoidance can be legal but tax evasion is a problem.
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Plod Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:08 am
I’m not a long suffering fan, I’m not suffering at all, I was happy Harry was able to get us into the Champions League but I’m realistic enough to know that we don’t have a divine right to it and it is not easy to achieve with the money other teams have.
I would be amazed if most clubs aren’t on the fiddle with payments or bungs.
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John White Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:16 am
I’ve also read the documents and, as far as I can see, on their own they are far from damning by any stretch of the imagination. However, they may well form a part of a much larger case against the defendants which may well amount to proof of wrongdoing. We’ll all have to wait and see, if and when the case is ever tried.
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spurious supporter Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 11:45 am
So these papers just show that the CPS wants proof from the US bank that Mandaric made the payment into Redknapp’s Monaco account.
Mandaric doesn’t deny that he made the payment to Redknapp.
The crux of it is if Redknapp can show that this payment was a loan for investment purposes, he’s not guilty of tax fraud.
The papers don’t confirm anything at all.
You seem rather keen to convict the man on no evidence whatsoever.
I hope you’re never a juror, since we have a legal presumption of innocense until PROVEN guilty.
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hotspurhartley Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Innocense? Isn’t that what the three wise men brought baby jebus?
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spurious supporter Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
i am indebted to you, it should of course be a c and not an s, but then you’re an expert at putting the c in everything aren’t you?
hotspurhartley Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Surely you mean a T rather than an S and an E? You silly C
spurious supporter Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
No,
. It should have been ” a presumption of innocence”
If you’re gonna be a pedant get it right
in·no·cence
[in-uh-suhns] noun
1.the quality or state of being innocent; freedom from sin or moral wrong.
2.freedom from legal or specific wrong; guiltlessness: The prisoner proved his innocence.
3.simplicity; absence of guile or cunning; naiveté.
4.lack of knowledge or understanding.
5.harmlessness; innocuousness
A presumption of innocent would be incorrect grammar.
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rich g Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
cunt…
hotspurhartley Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
edspur Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
shouldn’t that be “cunce”?
spurious supporter Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
No, there are three of you, it should be cunts.
hotspurhartley Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
I think you’ll find that we are all innocent until proven c*nts…
August 4th, 2011 at 8:49 am
Let’s get Ancelotti
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harrys bastard son Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:53 am
No tnx.
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August 4th, 2011 at 8:50 am
kenny palmer- long suffering?!?!
you must’ve really suffered watching spurs in the champions league last season- perhaps if we had a different boss we’d have won it yeah?
it’s no wonder spurs fans get a bad name
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spurious supporter Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
I’d bet my house that Mrs Palmer has five daughters.
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August 4th, 2011 at 8:53 am
I think the problem is you lot!!!!!!!
Is Harry really that disliked by his own fans that they want him in jail?
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Chirpy Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:01 am
A custodial sentence is unlikely considering the sums involved – being a fraction of his annual income.
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edspur Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
On the sums mentioned it might be a case of Harry replicating Sting’s performance in Quadrophenia after the Mods n Rockers fracas where he simply lobs out his cheque book in the dock
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Stu Barney Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:05 am
I don’t think Spurs fans dislike Harry, after all he has done for the club. I certanly don’t. But some will take offence at being called idiots and to go and support someone else, just for having an opinion.
The old saying with this court case is there is no smoke without fire. The sums being paid are astronomicial though, aren’t they and it does make me think that something is not right.
Still, innocent until proven guilty and all that.
It’s never dull being a Spurs fan!!
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Fletch Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Let’s be honest, anyone who goes to support another team just because they are called an idiot, is not a true supporter
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frontwheel 2 Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Come on you Arsenal
Ten Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:06 am
I don’t dislike Harry, and I don’t want him to go. But at best we have him for a year before getting into the England job or worst he’s going down. Either way we are going to lose our manager which surely isn’t having a stabilising effect on the players and the club on a whole.
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Plod Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Here here and these people call themselves supporters.
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pedantry is alive and well Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:25 am
FYI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear_hear
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rich g Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Are you aware that you can support a football team without being a “happy clapper”
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August 4th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Just what we need HH;
Another blog to give our Arry haters a platform to linch him
I,m gonna ignore this one if you dont mind and concentrate on the positive blogs
I will take a look sometime tomorrow and count up how many have hung him out to dry though
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jfdit Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:13 am
fact is TS is he’s as bent as a nine bob note, no lynching required if he gets convicted it will be down to his own greed.
If the police had a serious look at all the managers and players they would have a field day and most normal people would end up banged up if we carried on like them.
Personally I’d like to thank ‘arry for what he’s done for us and move on with someone with an inkling of a plan or strategy to take the club forward.
We’re under two weeks away from start of season and we’ve improved our squad by signing Friedel – so fucking depressing you couldn’t make it up.
I’ve also heard from a little dickie bird that a certain manager facing a bit of litigation is still at it by the way. Personal appearances = cash or casino chips as payment no questions asked???? Fucking idiot – he’s hardly off the grid
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August 4th, 2011 at 8:59 am
When is Harry’s next hearing anyway? I thought Levy was waiting on what happens in court before letting Harry have money to spend on transfers. It does look like there is a media blackout on information concerning the court case, which might have to do with Harry’s relationship with the media, and their support of him for the England job.
All this just leaves us fans in limbo over what’s happening at the Spurs.
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Plod Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:11 am
He doesn’t let Harry have money to spend on transfers he does it himself.
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ufluckingplick Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Exactly, remember arry giving it large when ‘he’ got VDV…then it comes out that it was DL calling him saying Ive got a present for you. For the first time in his career Arry has a chairman that hasn’t given him a blank cheque.
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August 4th, 2011 at 9:04 am
And on the subject of trials….
http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-united/trial_goes_to_extra_time_1_3643719
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August 4th, 2011 at 9:06 am
I love Redknapp – he got the team playing as a team.
I would love a new manager now, rather thanwaiting for him to a) go directly to jail or b) run off to pick Fat Fwank as Captain for the three lions.
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August 4th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Arry has excelled on the football side as he has finally got a very good squad to work with. However we all know he loves to talk to the press which is his right, after all we do live in a democracy. However its been pretty common knowledge for years now that Arry is v dodge, its just been a case of proving it.
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August 4th, 2011 at 9:06 am
I do not like Harry but his results are fantastic but we have got a squad that should qualify for cl every year (still better than liverpool and arse and close to chelsea). His coaching agianst hard working teams like blackpool is appalling and if he was at any other top four club(six clubs) he would have being sacked. As for his court case it is probably the main reason spurs are not spending as the new manager will need the money. The only thing that will save harry is the england job as this will glaze over any jury as you must remember twelve people will decide and if he has a similar jury to gerrard then he will escape but spurs season will not
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Plod Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Utter rubbish.
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August 4th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Do us a favour, “long suffering” are you having a laugh?
Ok he is a pain in the arse with regards to his media comments/contacts…… but weve all been on a triffic ride since Harry came in, I’m not his biggest fan but bar a few tacticle mistakes hes done fantastic for us, maybe over played VDV and Gallas last season when there form dipped but show me a Spurs manager who hasn’t made mistakes in the last 20 years?
Lets face facts, Citeh and Chelski are billionair play things, if you try and compete with them you go bust.
UTD may have been leveraged with £700m worth of debt but they make money due to being successful over the last 20 years, its just the leveraged debt that’s the problem.
The scum have competed for honours whilst building a cash mountain that will last them 100 years, they were lucky that there old stadium is in Highbury which enabled them to sell there property for a fortune which has lowered there debts significantly, along with buying young hungry players but paying them a fortune they have done well.
Liverpool were acquired for £100m less than it’s worth hence the buying this year to the tune of £100m, we all know the American owners are waiting for pay per view internet/TV games to make a killing, theres no love in the game for them.
So that leaves us, with our 36000 capacity and an Chairmen who has really done his best with the tools he has to get us up to that top 4, pound for pound I think Levy makes more for Spurs than any other club with similar capacity anywhere!
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Good to see someone who understands the realities of football finance.
I am still gutted though that we failed to qualify for the CL last year, and feel a lot of this was down to the tactics used by HR.
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frontwheel 2 Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Yes on all counts
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August 4th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Cuff hom Dano, he is a gonner by the sound of it
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August 4th, 2011 at 9:22 am
Just to add, how much has the Police and Inland revenue spent on Harry’s case? over £3m that’s how much, just to prove he evaded tax to the tune of £40k!
If he were a property developer/builder they would have fined him and ordered him to pay it back, no court case no anything!
If he is found guilty its not our problem, happened before he was employed by us, I doubt he will get sent down either even if he is guilty.
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Going off point slightly, it typically costs £2,100 to prosecute a shoplifter who pleads guilty on a first appearance at a magistrates court. The typical penalty is then a fine of £100.
What frequently happens in cases which are exclusively handled by HMRC, is that the ‘offender’ is given the opportunity to repay the money with a significant penalty. If they deny the claim, then it is up to HMRC whether to pursue the matter or not. However, this option does not exist if the Police decide to charge them.
Don’t know how much you know about Lester Piggott, but he was given that opportunity providing he made a “clean breast of it”, and agreed to pay £1,000,000 in penalties. He then tried to pay by cheque from a bank account that he had not told the revenue about. Deal was withdrawn, and he got a three year sentence.
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August 4th, 2011 at 9:29 am
According to my mate’s dad Dad who was a high up copper at West Ham during Arry’s tenure, Arry’s severance reward (he got no payoff) was that the spammers wouldnt go to the Old Bill [on account of Arrys misdeeds]. Whether true or not, he is certainly dodgy. Can’t see him doing time though. Surely if this was as cast iron as people think (bearing in mind the Operation has been in effect for almost 5 years) he’d be cracking rocks already.
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August 4th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Arry Redknapp is a useless twat……We are less than two weeks away from the start of a new season and he has already told us that we can’t compete in the PL and that the Europa cup is a ‘killer’, Bill Nicholson must be turning like a corkscrew! 2 points from 8 games, getting Tottenham into the Champions League etc etc. A sedated Donkey could have done that with this squad…He struggled for 3 months with the problem that is VDV (his words) and how to fit him in the team, he would have sold Bale had Benny not picked up a long term injury, he plays a circus clown up front most weeks and a one armed goalkeeper who physically shakes when the ball is approaching! Rubberchops believes he should be awarded a fecking medal and the freedom of the city, he shouldn’t, he should be sent down for crimes against my club, never mind all the other dodgy shit he gets involved with….Useless twat…
Use-
less
Twaaaaaaaaaaaa-t
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Astromesmo Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:39 am
Are you one that prescribes to the ‘when we win it’s the players, when we lose it’s the manager’ theory then? Nice to see that sedated Donkey we had at the helm before Harry did so well at Real Madrid and CSKA Moscow. He must have been using the wrong sedative there as well as he got sacked from both of those too.
Still, anyone could get us in the CL with this squad so maybe we should ask say Paul Ince to be the next manager? Or how about Roy Keane or maybe Duncan Ferguson? I’ve got the perfect one – Do you absolutely state, guaranteed 100% that Phil Brown will get us CL football next year if given the job/ Anyone could do it after all?
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hotspurhartley Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 10:59 am
When we win with this fool in charge, it is simply nothing more than pot luck, which pretty much sums up his whole career.
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Ledge Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
berk
SpurredoninDublin Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Very well put.
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SpurredoninDublin Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Sorry for the confusion, but I was telling Astro that it was very well put.
hotspurhartley Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Get a room
Spurstacus Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Maybe not but Bryan Robson could, and Steve Mclaren or Malcolm Mclaren. Big Sam defo, Alan ‘beg your pardon’ Pardew. Dario O’Grady, (Pauls brother). My choice would Mr Face Like a Kicked in Fridge- Paul Peskystiletto, (or is it Pishycornetto), you Karen’s wife.
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August 4th, 2011 at 10:15 am
An old school football manager likes brown paper bags. Bloody hell, someone fetch me a glass of water for the shock. The only thing that surprises me is that the amount of money is so small.
If ‘Dimbleby of the Yard’ had put as much effort into investigating corruption in the Met and illegal goings-on at Murdoch towers as they have into Harry’s £40k, we’d all be looking at the top brass in the Police doing a ten stretch.
Ditto, the banks… The guardian ran a piece two years ago (see link below) about a whistleblower at Barclays dishing the dirt on a whole section at Canary Wharf dedicated to UK tax evasion. The bank had made over £1bn (That’s One Billion… Or One Thousand Million pounds) in securing dodgy deals for it’s clients – The major companies of Britain. The government response (Not the current shower, the last lot) was to tighten up the rules to prevent whistleblowers.
The truth is that they’re all bent out there… Up to their bloody necks in it. We get screwed on a daily basis by those entrusted to protect us and serve us and until they start rounding up a few of those f***ers, I’m not going to lose sleep over a football manager tucking a bit in the kitty. To do so would make me a hypocrite for every time I’d paid someone cash to do a job or claimed a meal with the wife on the company.
If Harry gets dislodged it should be for football matters only and that’s a different post and discussion.
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@danb Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
If you can’t beat them, join them.
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Alspur Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Have you lost your mind, Astro?! You’re talking far too much good sense, again…
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August 4th, 2011 at 10:15 am
The link to the Guardian pice
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/mar/19/new-barclays-tax-whistleblower-claims
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August 4th, 2011 at 10:28 am
good morning all, i can think of many other worse offenders than our harry, ken bates comes to mind and plenty more cretins like him why don’t they investigate this bloody lot.
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August 4th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Harry, why do you always give me homework – I have enough to read as it is. If he is guilty and goes down, can you do a special T-shirt?
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August 4th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Everybody talking about what a great squad we have at the squad in relation to Harry’s achievements at the club should perhaps look at the reality of the situation: we have a bloated squad full of dead wood which we can’t shift thanks in no minor part to Harry’s activity in the transfer market since he came here.
Who has he signed?
Defoe – gone downhill badly
Crouch – no comment necessary
Keane – we made a tidy 20m out of him and instead of laughing at the scousers for their folly, we went and signed him back and put him on our highest wage bracket – great work
Palacios – Admittedly was great, now being pushed out by Harry
Pienaar – only bought because he was going cheap
Krancjar – again only bought because he was going cheap. Good player confusingly not trusted by Harry
VDV – well documented – NOT Harry’s signing
Sandro – Ditto. Harry hadn’t seen him play and went through the first half of the season in the same state of self-inflicted myopica through not selecting him.
FriedelIf he wasn’t convinced with Gomes, why not sell him and get someone capable of being number one?
GallasAlright, I’ll give him that one
So please stop talking about how much Redknapp has improved the squad. For the most part his signings have flopped. And his targets seem even worse – David Beckham, Joe Cole, etc etc, always old boys, triffic top top boys, way way past it. He is out of his depth in the transfer market and it actually makes me pine somewhat for the maligned director of football role. At least Commoli mixed up his Bentleys with a Modric / Bale / Assou-Ekotto etc.
None of which has to do with this court business, of which I don’t really understand or care about that much. Whatever happens I very much doubt he will be doing bird, either way he will be fucking off to another job next year anyway, so we are stuck with him for now and that’s it really.
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Oh-Danny-Boy Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Yep to everything there. Add Bassong to that too.
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LLL Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Yeah, forgot about him, had a feeling there were more!
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MysteriousStranger Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
To be honest I don’t recall Defoe ever being that good to go downhill. He was third or fourth choice under Jol, and what’s changed since?
ric Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Crouch put us in CL, against ManC and Young Boys. Also he is a good substitute as a tactical move.
Keane was a good signing in terms of squad-mentality at the time. All in all we got good ROI on him. Anyway he should be on free transfer by now.
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Spurstacus Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Perhaps Redknapp could substitute Crouch for himself in the court room, tactically.
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LLL Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Crouch scored one important goal and a couple of others against a team of part timers we should have been beating anyway. But guess what? That’s his job – he’s a striker. He’s just not very good at it, as his overall goals / starts ratio confirms. Last year he was primarily of use in defending corners and “tactically” he was employed when Harry decided he didn’t want us to waste any time playing with the ball in midfield.
Keane was signed because somehow our medics didn’t spot that Defoe had come back with a broken foot!! You couldn’t make it up!
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rich g Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
crouch put us in cl?, no he didnt u moron, do you realise that the CL wasnt a one game play off at city, we actually managed , even with the hinderence of mr crouch to actually win a lot of games before no37, go and wank over “crouchies” FOUR FUCKING LEAGUE GOALS LAST SEASON U TWAT,IN OVER 30 GAMES!.So sick of the crouch put us in CL bollix, it hit him in the face, he knew nothing about it.
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August 4th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Agree with LLLs assessment of Redknapp’s transfers 100%
As a stabilising presence after Ramos, Redknapp was an excellent choice
As a manager to take us further forward and develop the squad, Redknapp is SOOOO NOT the answer
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August 4th, 2011 at 11:05 am
HH: That’s the wrong Fletcher. Cyril Fletcher was the very urbane presenter on “That’s Life”. You mean Norman Stanley Fletcher.
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@danb Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 11:36 am
He’s been (Ronnie) Barkering up the wrong tree
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edspur Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Could “Thats Life” be what the beak says for a tax case?
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August 4th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Thought the trial was due now but believe the judge has been taken ill and it will not be until October/ November now.
More uncertainty.
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MysteriousStranger Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
October? FFS. Still, we usually get rid of managers around then.
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August 4th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Make of this what you will, I may be about to make myself a twit of an ITK
A gentleman I attend anger management with (this is no lie, I’ve been going since February, it’s done me the world of good) is a lawyer. He has been spending considerable time at Southwark County Court recently and has seen Milan Mandaric attending in relation to his own case, before Harry comes in a bit later. Although an Arsenal fan, he seems to think, after sniffing around a bit, that HR is a dead cert to go down.
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 11:40 am
You’d be hard pushed to stand out as a twit on here. I’ve heard nothing positive about this whole business. The alarm bell that rings loudest is how much money they have spent trying to nail him.
This doesn’t indicate guilt of course, but it is a bloody big indicator that they are committed to nailing him big time.
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@danb Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
I little similar in the the pursuit of Terry Adams. They could only get the man on Tax evasion.
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NellyYiddo Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Wasn’t that al capone
melcyid Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
porridge!
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August 4th, 2011 at 11:57 am
My only gripe with Redknapp is that I can never quite trust him. Either
to keep his mouth shut, pass the blame or take monies (under the counter like). I didn’t like it when we signed him, but he’s got us playing in the way we love and bar a shed load of missed open goals last season would have got us back in the CL. It’s obvious they have the proverbial hard on for Redknapp over this, but that’s fair. Break the law and get done for it. Jail might be over the top though. What annoys me is those pikeys down the road, their chairman is alleged to have been involved in blackmail, bribery, share dilution, theft, loan fraud, etc. Why can’t someone go after him with as much gusto?
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August 4th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Norman Stanley Fletcher…
Mackay: What have you got there, Fletcher?
Fletch: [sotto voce] Crown jewels
[out loud]
Makay: “Fletcher- whats in the bag?”
Fletch: chicken feed!
Mackay: Empty it.
Fletch: It’ll make a terrible mess, Mr Mackay!
Mackay: Empty it!
[Fletch empties the bag, which contains nothing but chicken feed]
Mackay: All right Fletcher, just don’t let me catch you thieving!
Fletch: I won’t, Mr Mackay.
Mackay: You won’t what?
Fletch: I won’t let you catch me, Mr Mackay!
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August 4th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Probably because they “know where the bodies have been buried” by West End Central Vice Squad.
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August 4th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Is this an argument about how fucking useless the HMRC are or how overrated/dodgy Redknapp is?
As is clearly stated in the article, it is not just the one payment that appears to be under scrutiny. So the “unpaid £40k” argument is tosh.
The HMRC are fucking useless. They pursue the small businessman with randomly conjured large figures (think £100k plus), with a “pay immediately or we shut you down forthwith” notice without having to prove the amount owed beforehand. They then let off the likes of Vodafone/Barclays to the tune of billions after these cunts use every possible conniving method in the book to reduce the amount owed, by accepting a vastly reduced payment/turning a blind eye to/allowing the tax dodging.
However, Harry Redknapp is scum personified. Fuck the “2 from 8″ bullshit. He inherited a good squad from a manager who had also been fucked over by the whole Berba saga. He then righted the ship (which likely would have righted itself), and bought back players we’d done well to rid ourselves of in the first instance, whilst repeating the trick conjured at every other club he worked for, by overpaying them. He then bloated the squad further with acquisitions such as Crouch.
We somewhat fortuitously earned CL qualification under him in his 2nd season, but then failed to cement our position in his 3rd, chasing CL glory and then playing some horrific stuff in the League. How many games did we concede first? For those who wish to talk about how we nearly beat Inter in the San Siro we were 4-0 down before “the Bale show”. We had our backs to the wall throughout the AC Milan game then got hammered by Real Madrid. We got hammered by Fulham in the FA Cup, and I’d rather skate over the Carling Cup game, bullshit pens but a cup not worth winning.
The league should have clearly been of primary focus, in order to maintain our position as a CL team.
Now we’re fast going nowhere under him, with a bloated squad of overpaid, over-contracted over-the-hill players courtesy of Redknapp, who in the meantime disbanded the reserve team and provided other teams with the cheap fix of giving themselves a comparatively decent, low/no risk addition, whilst squad members retained got little football practice. And keeping the guys we didn’t want to retain permanently on our books for another season in order to get a year older, a year cheaper. Also see three strikers without regular match practice fighting for one spot, or alternatively the VdV out on the right joke tactic to accomodate two of the forwards, and dismissing Lennon/or Bentley before Jan (further reducing their confidence – being replaced by someone who cannot play out on the right).
And I haven’t even mentioned any of the scandals Harry has been associated with prior to him arriving at our club. Aside from that he talks too much, undermines players, chairmen and insults fans.
Throw away the key.
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August 4th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
So a manager gives us our best couple seasons in living memory, and now listen to you all.
shame on you.
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MysteriousStranger Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
How old are you? Three?
We’ve had far better seasons in many people’s living memory, Redknapp isn’t fit to lick Keith Burkinshaw’s boots.
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hotspurhartley Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Despite my earlier comments I have a lot of time for Arry, I just wish I was a judge….
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Chirpy Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Likewise. Frankly I couldn’t be less interested in HMRC’s action against Redknapp; I prefer to judge by results. For me he’s had one good season (we qualified for the CL, no matter what good work had already been done under Jol, that had eluded us) and ‘one not as good as it should’ve been season’ in terms of CL qualification and, in particular, results against the bottom four clubs. But to call for his head, as MS does, is, quite frankly, ridiculous.
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hotspurhartley Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
When I say I have a lot of time for Arry……I meant in the scrubs
MysteriousStranger Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
I thought I said throw away the key Chirpy, not behead the man. We don’t behead people these days.
I judge Redknapp by my own standards. If you want a dodgy geezer managing, and representing Tottenham Hotspur that’s your prerogative. It’s not like he’s been that bloody good managing, and he certainly doesn’t cover himself or the club in glory with his manner. IMO.
I look forward to the day we move on without him, and I acknowledge that day won’t be very far away, regardless of the outcome of his upcoming Court case. There is nothing about him that speaks “Spurs” to me.
frontwheel 2 Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
I don’t want to see harry banged away but i do agree with MS when he or she says”there is nothing about him that speaks “Spurs” to me” and i resent being labeled an idiot for having opinions
Chirpy Reply:
August 6th, 2011 at 4:39 am
fw2, who labelled you an idiot?
MS, he’s not been convicted of anything yet and, as I said, his personal tax affairs are of no interest to me. In any event, avoiding tax is not exactly an exclusive club, particularly where football’s concerned. As for dodgy geezers representing Tottenham, were you happy with El Tel Venables as manager?
If you don’t like him, fair enough, but his record at Spurs does not (nor does any petty tax matter IMO) warrant his removal.
August 4th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
we all talk about this but nobody has mentioned that eggs are 99p a half dozen
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Harry Hotspur Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
That cannot be a free range price unless you’re buying from small holder direct.
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August 4th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
what’s the got to do with the price of bacon?
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August 4th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
harry cares about harry, nothing more, nothing less.
he got the spurs job off the back of a portsmouth fa cup win and left portsmouth buggered at the price he paid for their success. his ambition is to get the england job, he is desperate for it. to get it he needs to have people believe he did a good job with spurs. that is why he is already furiously managing expectations in the press. so i admit, i do not like him in this job. look at king kenny, he came out this morning and said liverpool can win the league, they dont have a better squad that us, i really dont think they do, but kenny is happy to nail his colours to the mast because he has only one ambition, the success of liverpool. harry does not have the success of spurs as his ambition, he has no loyalty to us, he ridicules the fans rather than accepting any level of criticism. and putting to one side my oft repeated statement that had we beaten two of the relegated clubs 9w. ham and blackpool) twice we wd have been second and arsenal in the europa the other way to look at it is the problem with the strikers, and he bought crouch and keane, for a lot of money, and they were crap last year. he doesnt play the better players, bale got in by accidenet when harry had him on a bus to forrest. sandro cd not buy a game but he will be the biggest star of this current squad i am convinced and pav, well he can score more goals that keane and crouch together, in fewer games, and as a sub, but harry doesnt play him. i wd like a beer with him but by god i dont want him at my club. a really good coach with the palyers we have wd have done better, simple. he has run out of passion, i he ever had it and is far too quick to settle for second best. rant over, apologies
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August 4th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
i lied, rant not over. it is no good people complaining that we cannot get rid of these various players, wd you want to live in sunderland? the point is we say modric must honour his contract, well then we must honour ours, even if it means given shed loads to useless bastards like crouch and keane who dont want to leave london for anywhere else in england and wd never have the initiative to go abroad
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August 4th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Harry was an important stop gap, just like Wilson.
Very, very quickly we outgrew both of them.
I think he’s a shifty fucker with two eyes on the England job so I really don’t care what happens to him, but I don’t want this affecting our preseason.
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August 4th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
It’s very easy to blame ‘arry. Very easy. The fact remains the strikers/players didn’t deliver either.. If it was just the strikers fault against the weaker teams why did we concede 3 at blackpool, wolves or lose at home to wigan? Yes our strikers underachieved but the whole side had lapses at various times, inter away, young boys etc. Harry is to blame for being tactically naive, the game has moved on and tellin players go on son and patting them on the back sayin how great they are isn’t enough. It’s what they needed when bottom of the table but not now. It’s not park football or the 80′s anymore. Levy is obviously a very patient man to tolerate the tripe that comes out his managers mouth as well as his naivety on tactics on it. I genuinely think, despite levy being a fantastic chairman, his blind faith in this barrow boy arsenal fan is tarnishing his reputation
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August 4th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
He’ll never get the England job if this is going to blow up in his face,shame really as he is what we need with england and can easily handle the gutter press
the media,mp’s,the police,the legal and financial system really are in a state and shouldnl’t be looking at anyone except themselves and how badly they are letting england down since brown and blair have been champagne socialising on the worlds stage,lord give us strength,when are we going to get a leader who puts England and the english first
i know city arrived las vegas style but we still went backwards last season,not scoring which is down to one man,if vdv stopped his 4-4-2 style,thats down to redknapp no one else,if we go backwards again levy will pull the trigger could even be before xmas if we are mid table,good luck redknapp i do hope harry,bond and jordan have been working on strategy and what we can do instead of endlessly going on habout how much bigger our fivals are
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August 4th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Excluding this taxation Mumbo Jumbo (each to their own yet to be interested in someone elses financial wrong doing is plain dull) HR is doing everything in his power to be giving the sack.
He’d get a pay off and be free to do the England Job. The man has no intention of resigning.
He has consistently played down or chances of sucess from not having the squad, (great for player morale from a man whose reputation is built on his ability to raise it) Now to the bollocks about the Europa Lge.
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August 4th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
why do people keep saying would you want to go up north like its bad,2 of the biggest clubs in the world are up north and the richest club in the world not to mention some seriously hot northern pussy with their sexy accents,
its not as if you will be moving into a smashed up council flat in sunderland,the surrounding countryside ia as beautiful as anywhere and i’m sure i could fit in on 60,000 smackers a week,
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cyril Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
well a nice italian boy prob like a good restaurant, and while i am not suggesting sunderland and manchester are serving deep fried pizza, a la glasgow, i am told by friends that have had to tours in thise two cities that there are three restaurants in all of manchester he cd take a client to without being embarrassed and two in sunderland.
plus if they have missus then the london social scene and shopping helps. for years whenever i met someone from leeds they wd announce they have a harvey nichols, so sad. london has soooo much more of everything. sriously, if you earn 60 grand a week then bond street or parts of regent street etc etc etc are nice to shop in and the northern cities dont have anything a patch on that and they dont have fine restaurants, simple. it really is grim oooop north
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MysteriousStranger Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Well, if that’s the extent of a footballer/footballer’s wives problem, then fuck the lot of em. Pathetic. They can visit London, day trip if it means so much to these overpaid buffoons.
And you sound like you just repeated that pathetic excuse Tevez came out with regarding eating out in Manchester. These dicks need to wake up, there are millions of people in the world living of less than $1.25 a day, those who aren’t fortunate enough to eat a decent meal, let alone choose which fucking restaurant to eat in.
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cyril Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
i fully understand and agree they are a bunch of spoilled kids, but that is a given, so naturally with that much dosh in your pocket then you wd like to be able to enjoy it and while there are a few high quality galleries and theatre compnanes and opera companies and venues for every other sort of music and restaurants dotted around the north the difference bewteen any northern city and london is night and bloody day, so all things being equal they wd rather be in london than effing sunderland. and things are not equal as keane and croch already have contracts at a london club that has recently emphasised to a certain mr modric how impt it is to respect a contract
August 4th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
seriously hot northern pussy, hahaha, tell mr offside, please
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cyril Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
well if you are an italian football player and have grown up in milan surrounded by elegant and well dressed italian birds a slapper from liverpool with a bunch of tattoos and an accent you cannot understand is hardly likely to be attractive. ok, so she will jump in to bed at the drop of a hat and let the footie players do despicable things to her, but then they are wealthy footie players so the elegant itailan girl prob will do the same, and she wont sell her story to the tabloids the next day. nope, sorry but i see nothing attractive in the north to a french, italian or spanish football player. now it might be a step up for a russian or a player from some other yet to emerge market in the former soviet union, as long as they have not spent a few years in london already. note modric expressed no interest in utd, his footballing ambitions and desire for success are moderated by his wife’s willingness (lack thereof)to move to manchester, and good for her
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kojac Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
you need to stop generalising,you have obviously never visited some rich places in the north its as rich as anywhere and seen the beautiful women,london is a shithole too by the way especially tottenham,do they all live on the high road above the fried chicken shop our players
obviously someone from the med or south america won’t like the climate but i’m talking about all players not just your latino’s
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cyril Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
i grew up in the north and yes audley edge and wilmslow are nice places with big expensive houses. but if you have lots of cash i am sure it wd be nice to spend in on fine restaurants and the theatre or whatever else, and no matter how nice the house (or gaudy in the case or stevie gerrard) there is nowt going on in manchester. i am quite familiar with many northern towns and the only generalisation i made that was wromg was women from liverpool. to be clear there is no town in the north that has a fraction of the things going on or to da that london has. happy to compare a time out or other such for any northern city of your choosing
kojac Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
thats right,obviously nothing can compete with london town for the super rich or latino homesick and i’m not having a go i’m just saying i wouldn’t mind it up north on £45,000 and getting stuck into all that northern pussy
frontwheel 2 Reply:
August 4th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Whats baby cats got to do with anything?
August 5th, 2011 at 1:05 am
Strange day. Listened to this idiots on talkshite today; you know the hairy fella and the Scottish one and they mentioned playing golf with butch wilkins. Anyways long story short;
Turns out they’re playing in front of me and prior to teeing off I earwig a conv that basically says that Arry will be doing bird unless his beak pulls a rabbit.
So no need to slate the fella anymore as he will be a gonner before Xmas.
Where now?
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August 5th, 2011 at 1:57 am
Ive always liked that Mr. big fella. Top,top geezer. Wages might be a problem.
Now, wheres the soap ?
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August 5th, 2011 at 6:55 am
HMRC? Triffic team, anyone would want them on their side. Top, top lads. (twitch, twitch)
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August 5th, 2011 at 9:15 am
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August 25th, 2011 at 7:53 am
he is going down the cunt deserve it
oh and stay out of east london
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